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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1575 on: July 10, 2024, 01:46:30 PM »
And we all know how well Trump follows through on keeping his promises to pay his debts... even when it is to contribute to a charity.  ::)

Or like his entire presidential salary, which was donated to charitable causes. 

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1576 on: July 10, 2024, 03:13:14 PM »
All bullshit excuses from this guy.
He'll crawl back into his hole shortly.
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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1577 on: July 10, 2024, 04:15:33 PM »
There were no excuses in my reply to you. I stated my opinions which are based on fact, which I also cited. You obviously cannot answer the one question I asked, so you typically diverted from it as you most often do.


Says the poster who's always deflecting/ or playing dumb/ running away & not answering questions
He's fine & happy when he does it - yet doesn't like  it if he feels it done to him.
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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1578 on: July 10, 2024, 04:43:35 PM »
 :o

Biden support slips in deep blue New York: ‘We’re a battleground state now’
Democrats are worried the president is taking New York for granted as the state becomes surprisingly competitive.
By NICK REISMAN
07/10/2024
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/10/biden-new-york-trouble-00167198

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1579 on: July 10, 2024, 04:56:15 PM »
Or like his entire presidential salary, which was donated to charitable causes.

Correct. Trumps generous offer to donate his income to charity seems honorable enough. According to his tax returns he donated a fair amount of money during the time he was in office except for the year 2020. However, what the tax returns do not show is where this money came from. But then, there is this to consider: Donald Trump's company is found guilty of criminal tax fraud. Donald and Melania Trump reported negative income in four of the six years from 2015 through 2020 and little or no income-tax liability for several years, according to tax documents released by a House committee. Trump is a tricky guy. Sometimes, things are not what they seem to be and sometimes less than truly honest folks, 'rob from Peter to pay Paul.'

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1580 on: July 10, 2024, 05:01:54 PM »
Correct. Trumps generous offer to donate his income to charity seems honorable enough. According to his tax returns he donated a fair amount of money during the time he was in office except for the year 2020. However, what the tax returns do not show is where this money came from. But then, there is this to consider: Donald Trump's company is found guilty of criminal tax fraud. Donald and Melania Trump reported negative income in four of the six years from 2015 through 2020 and little or no income-tax liability for several years, according to tax documents released by a House committee. Trump is a tricky guy. Sometimes, things are not what they seem to be and sometimes less than truly honest folks, 'rob from Peter to pay Paul.'

He's a smart guy.  That's why he's a billionaire. 

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1581 on: July 10, 2024, 06:11:16 PM »
He's a smart guy.  That's why he's a billionaire.


Right. Papa's money and his being unscrupulous, ruthless, dishonest and a confidence man have nothing to do with his financial status. ::) 

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1582 on: July 10, 2024, 06:49:23 PM »


Right. Papa's money and his being unscrupulous, ruthless, dishonest and a confidence man have nothing to do with his financial status. ::)

Nope.  Except I'm sure he used some seed money from his father to become one of the wealthiest persons on earth. 

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1583 on: July 10, 2024, 06:59:52 PM »
And we all know how well Trump follows through on keeping his promises to pay his debts... even when it is to contribute to a charity.  ::)

Wait, let’s find those lenders that testified that Trump paid back all loans In full with some paid back before notes were due saying they wouldn’t hesitate to do business with him again. Just an fyi, dippy. When you default on debts you’re all but out of business.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1584 on: July 10, 2024, 07:09:21 PM »
Wait, let’s find those lenders that testified that Trump paid back all loans In full with some paid back before notes were due saying they wouldn’t hesitate to do business with him again. Just an fyi, dippy. When you default on debts you’re all but out of business.

Not those pesky facts again.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1585 on: July 10, 2024, 07:23:44 PM »
Not those pesky facts again.

It’s amazing how soon they forget….or haven’t even heard about it because all they listen too is state ran media

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1586 on: July 10, 2024, 09:10:57 PM »
It’s amazing how soon they forget….or haven’t even heard about it because all they listen too is state ran media

They get their news exclusively from the MSM, so they are uninformed and misinformed. 

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1587 on: July 10, 2024, 10:13:48 PM »
Report: Schumer Talking With Donors About Dumping Biden
By Michael Katz    |  10 July 2024
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/chuck-schumer-democrat-donors-joe-biden/2024/07/10/id/1171999/

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1588 on: July 11, 2024, 12:51:19 AM »
Report: Schumer Talking With Donors About Dumping Biden
By Michael Katz    |  10 July 2024
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/chuck-schumer-democrat-donors-joe-biden/2024/07/10/id/1171999/
Not surprised he's a Judas.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1589 on: July 11, 2024, 12:19:03 PM »
I guess that means Democrats are sexist and racist because Harris only got 844 votes in the 2020 primaries? 

Jen Psaki Floats Kamala Harris as Best Biden ‘Alternative,’ Claims She Struggles Because ‘We Live In a Country That Is Sexist and Racist’
Zachary Leeman 
Jul 11th, 2024
https://www.mediaite.com/politics/jen-psaki-floats-kamala-harris-as-best-biden-alternative-claims-she-struggles-because-we-live-in-a-country-that-is-sexist-and-racist/

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1590 on: July 11, 2024, 12:24:41 PM »
I guess that means Democrats are sexist and racist because Harris only got 844 votes in the 2020 primaries? 

Jen Psaki Floats Kamala Harris as Best Biden ‘Alternative,’ Claims She Struggles Because ‘We Live In a Country That Is Sexist and Racist’
Zachary Leeman 
Jul 11th, 2024
https://www.mediaite.com/politics/jen-psaki-floats-kamala-harris-as-best-biden-alternative-claims-she-struggles-because-we-live-in-a-country-that-is-sexist-and-racist/

It might be true that the Democrats Biden voters are racist and sexist: they elected an "old white male" as President with the most votes ever. And Psaki herself must have benefited from this apparent racism since she is pasty white and has been in the White House for many years.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1591 on: July 11, 2024, 12:49:51 PM »
It might be true that the Democrats Biden voters are racist and sexist: they elected an "old white male" as President with the most votes ever. And Psaki herself must have benefited from this apparent racism since she is pasty white and has been in the White House for many years.

Democrats are absolute frauds and hypocrites when it comes to race.  They endorse discrimination against Asian students.  They presided over the destruction of the black family.  They dropped black voters like a bad habit in favor of Hispanic illegal aliens and the transgender movement.  Everything they do is designed to obtain power by manipulating race and sexual orientation demographics.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1592 on: July 11, 2024, 01:55:55 PM »
Democrats are absolute frauds and hypocrites when it comes to race.  They endorse discrimination against Asian students.  They presided over the destruction of the black family.  They dropped black voters like a bad habit in favor of Hispanic illegal aliens and the transgender movement.  Everything they do is designed to obtain power by manipulating race and sexual orientation demographics.

Breaking news: politicians will do anything and everything to get elected, including lying, cheating and stealing.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1593 on: July 11, 2024, 02:02:20 PM »
Breaking news: politicians will do anything and everything to get elected, including lying, cheating and stealing.

I agree with this.

But I do firmly believe that since 2015ish, the Democrats have gone more off the deep end.
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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1594 on: July 11, 2024, 02:06:52 PM »
Wait, let’s find those lenders that testified that Trump paid back all loans In full with some paid back before notes were due saying they wouldn’t hesitate to do business with him again. Just an fyi, dippy. When you default on debts you’re all but out of business.

Right, maybe if you, Coach or I were to default on debts we may or may not be out of business. Most businesses continue to operate under a Chapter 11 bankruptcy. Also, the larger the business/company, the less likely it is going to fold for nonpayment of its debts.

More to the point, Trump's companies have filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, which means a company can remain in business while wiping away its debts. Trump's companies filed for bankruptcy at least six times. Trump disputes this number claiming he considers the first three bankruptcies as one. Ever heard of alternate realities? Well, this is a good example of Trump's alternate financial reality. I doubt the bankruptcy courts treated those first three bankruptcies as one.   

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2016/live-updates/general-election/real-time-fact-checking-and-analysis-of-the-first-presidential-debate/fact-check-has-trump-declared-bankruptcy-four-or-six-times/

More often it is small businesses where Trump does not pay what he owes them. Take for example this case:

"Juan Carlos Enriquez, owner of The Paint Spot, in South Florida, has been waiting more than two years to get paid for his work at [a Trump golf resort called] the Doral. The Paint Spot first filed a lien against Trump’s course, then filed a lawsuit asking a Florida judge to intervene.

In courtroom testimony, the manager of the general contractor for the Doral renovation admitted that a decision was made not to pay The Paint Spot because Trump “already paid enough.” As the construction manager spoke, “Trump’s trial attorneys visibly winced, began breathing heavily, and attempted to make eye contact” with the witness, the judge noted in his ruling.

That, and other evidence, convinced the judge The Paint Spot’s claim was credible. He ordered last month that the Doral resort be foreclosed on, sold, and the proceeds used to pay Enriquez the money he was owed. Trump’s attorneys have since filed a motion to delay the sale, and the contest continues.

Enriquez still has not been paid.” (article written in 2016).

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/06/trump-didnt-pay-his-bills-for-decades.html

How does Trump get away with not paying debts? He can afford better lawyers and on-going and drawn-out legal battles better than businesses like the one owned by Mr. Rodrigues.

Honestly, you cannot be this naive as to believe Trump always pays his debts. There is considerable evidence to the contrary. I doubt however that Trump being a 'deadbeat' has any impact on how those who support him will vote in 2024.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1595 on: July 11, 2024, 02:10:14 PM »
Breaking news: politicians will do anything and everything to get elected, including lying, cheating and stealing.

I absolutely agree that this applies to many if not most politicians, but there are probably some exceptions although I have no idea who they are.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1596 on: July 11, 2024, 02:31:32 PM »
I absolutely agree that this applies to many if not most politicians, but there are probably some exceptions although I have no idea who they are.

Tulsi Gabbard, Rand Paul, Thomas Massie are a few I can think of.  Just guessing though.
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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1597 on: July 11, 2024, 02:42:14 PM »
Tulsi Gabbard, Rand Paul, Thomas Massie are a few I can think of.  Just guessing though.

I would not know whether they are truthful or not. How would anyone know this? How do you know it?

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1598 on: July 11, 2024, 04:10:17 PM »
I would not know whether they are truthful or not. How would anyone know this? How do you know it?

Tulsi ended Kamala.    I hope Trump picks her.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1599 on: July 11, 2024, 04:26:44 PM »
I would not know whether they are truthful or not. How would anyone know this? How do you know it?


Same as we don't know whether you're truthful or not.
We can only judge on you're lies / deflections & avoidance in answering questions.