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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1700 on: July 18, 2024, 05:19:42 PM »
I just read that they're going to make Biden an offer he can't understand.   :D

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1701 on: July 18, 2024, 05:23:10 PM »
The Dems are working on a brokered convention as we speak

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1702 on: July 18, 2024, 09:02:47 PM »
There will be a civil war if Kamala Harris does not replace him.  Unless they can convince Michelle Obama to run.

There won't.

Democrats realize replacing the worst candidate they could run with the second worst candidate they could run would be a disaster.  Reportedly, Newsom, Whitmer, etc have already turned Kamala down.

Could be Whitmer to guarantee Michigan or Shapiro from Kentucky
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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1703 on: July 19, 2024, 01:29:30 AM »
There will be a civil war if Kamala Harris does not replace him.  Unless they can convince Michelle Obama to run.
Harris would still be pissed. They should have Joe step down as prez and let Harris run as the incumbent president.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1704 on: July 19, 2024, 05:22:26 AM »
'We can't catch a break.' How the Biden crisis looks from the inside
NPR ^ | July 18, 2024 | Tamara Keith
Posted on 7/19/2024, 7:06:21 AM by DoodleBob

Hit by a rolling series of punches — the turmoil after President Biden's disastrous debate, the drip-drip-drip of damaging leaks from congressional allies, and now a campaign-stalling case of COVID — people who work inside the Biden campaign are discouraged and uncertain about what lies ahead.

Harris hits the campaign trail in North Carolina as Biden isolates for COVID "We can't catch a break,” a Biden adviser said, speaking on condition of anonymity to frankly describe private conversations.

Ever since Biden faltered in his debate three weeks ago against former President Donald Trump, the bad news just keeps coming — much of it from unnamed sources who are supposed to be allies of their team, the adviser said.

Not enough momentum 'to get us back on solid footing'

While there have been some positive moments for the president since the debate, “They haven't been enough to get us back on solid footing," the adviser said.

Biden had been gaining a bit of a momentum, giving energetic rallies in three "Blue Wall" states, culminating in a fired-up retooled stump speech in Detroit on Friday, where supporters chanted, "Don't you quit!"

But Biden's private meetings with top congressional leaders last week were sobering, and then there were the leaks from gatherings with rank-and-file Democratic lawmakers worried that Biden’s political woes will be toxic for their own races.

"In moments of crisis, you really get to know a lot about people," the adviser said.

Biden, a long-time senator, is pragmatic about the political calculations that lawmakers are making, the adviser said.

Top Democrats in Washington are carefully avoiding denying reports that they have called for President Biden to step aside as the party's nominee for president.

But the president bristled in one meeting last weekend when Rep. Jason Crow, D-Colo., suggested, in a respectful tone, that Americans were losing sleep because they were worried about the national security risks associated with an aging president.

Biden replied: "'Listen: if you have to come out against me, do whatever you need to do. But don't you dare say that Americans don't feel safe because of this,’" the adviser recounted.

This adviser said Biden showed no signs during that meeting and others of any cracks in his resolve to stay in the race — and said it’s not yet clear whether the pile-up of woes has reached a tipping point for the president.

In a July 6 letter, obtained by NPR on Thursday, Rep. Jamie Raskin recounted Biden's achievements, and used a metaphor about a 2003 baseball loss faced by Red Sox pitcher Pedro Martinez when he stayed in the game too long.

“There is no shame in taking a well-deserved bow to the overflowing appreciation of the crowd when your arm is tired out, and there is real danger for the team in ignoring the statistics," Raskin warned.

'What campaign team is going to rise from the ashes?'

Perhaps there is still a way for Democrats to unite behind a concise message, and Biden, the adviser said. But now, even Democrats who back Biden find themselves parsing his speeches and interviews for trips and flubs. His trademark gaffes are now are seen in a new light.

But if Biden drops out, that opens the door to a compressed “Hunger Games” race within the party for choosing a new leader, the adviser said. There's little time, and will be little organization.

While the adviser sees strong future candidates on the Democratic bench, they have not been battle-tested. The adviser noted that some of the best and brightest Republican prospects fell flat when they went against Trump.

"What campaign team is going to rise from the ashes?" the adviser asked.

“It's gonna be ugly. it's gonna be dirty. It's gonna be messy.”

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1705 on: July 19, 2024, 05:45:28 AM »

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1706 on: July 19, 2024, 11:40:52 AM »
Harris would still be pissed. They should have Joe step down as prez and let Harris run as the incumbent president.


It would be an obvious winner of an idea. Claim to be responsible for the first woman POTUS then put in on the women voters to re-elect like it happened by the will of the genpop.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1707 on: July 19, 2024, 11:46:42 AM »
There won't.

Democrats realize replacing the worst candidate they could run with the second worst candidate they could run would be a disaster.  Reportedly, Newsom, Whitmer, etc have already turned Kamala down.

Could be Whitmer to guarantee Michigan or Shapiro from Kentucky

Shapiro is from Pennsylvania.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1708 on: July 19, 2024, 11:48:45 AM »
Shapiro is from Pennsylvania.

Yeah, I done fucked that up.  Beshear and Shapiro is what I should have said.
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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1709 on: July 19, 2024, 11:54:37 AM »
Yeah, I done fucked that up.  Beshear and Shapiro is what I should have said.

I'm a big Beshear fan.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1710 on: July 19, 2024, 11:56:00 AM »
I'm a big Beshear fan.

I don't know much about governors.

Just feel what the democratic party did with Biden and all the coverups deserves a big loss.
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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1711 on: July 20, 2024, 01:19:15 AM »

It would be an obvious winner of an idea. Claim to be responsible for the first woman POTUS then put in on the women voters to re-elect like it happened by the will of the genpop.
And claim anyone who doesn't vote for her is a racist and misogynist.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1712 on: July 21, 2024, 07:09:31 AM »
I just read that they're going to make Biden an offer he can't understand.   :D

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1713 on: July 22, 2024, 10:41:03 AM »

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The decision of Joe Biden to withdraw from his reelection bid raises the obvious question of how he can continue as president if he is incapable of running for that office. The Democratic Party seems to have created its own 25th Amendment, but ...

...there remains the "other" 25th Amendment. This is a type of 25th-lite option where you lack capacity to run but not to serve for an office...

...It also focuses attention on the efforts of Democrats to drop any challengers or hold any debates through the primary as millions voted for Biden. Holding a party "primary" in a matter of weeks is hardly a substitute for a primary campaign to expose candidates to prolonged scrutiny...

The Guardians of Democracy: Democrats Move to Protect Democracy from Itself

Below is my column in the Hill on efforts to bar or limit voting in the primary and general presidential elections. What is so striking is how these distinctly anti-democratic actions are being tak…
https://jonathanturley.org/2023/12/04/ballot-cleansing-democrats-move-to-protect-democracy-from-itself/

...The problem for the White House is the glaring disconnect between pulling out of the election but holding on to the office. Pulling out as simply politically incapable of winning makes a mockery of the unopposed primary process...

...Yet, pulling out do to diminished capacity makes a mockery of his political office. There is a striking lack of clarity on the basis for this historic action...

...There are also legal questions under the federal election laws. After the democrats rallied around prosecuting Trump for federal election laws, they hardly want a controversy on the transfer of huge amounts of donations to a new candidate...

...Harris has the advantage in claiming that she is the least controversial recipient of the contributions as part of the shared ticket with Biden. She would be able to avoid any primary fight and be made the party nominee by acclamation of the party elite...

...In doing so, the DNC may be able to avoid some very difficult federal election law questions.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1815085213229224313.html

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1714 on: July 22, 2024, 10:42:40 AM »
 ;D

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The video goes harder than the written statement…

https://x.com/RubinReport/status/1815144007040684406

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1715 on: July 22, 2024, 10:45:39 AM »
BREAKING NEWS: Dana White Introduces Donald Trump At The RNC


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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1716 on: July 22, 2024, 10:46:17 AM »
BREAKING NEWS: Detroit Pastor Lorenzo Sewell Absolutely Brings The House Down At RNC Praising Trump


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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1717 on: July 22, 2024, 11:33:15 AM »
All state Democratic party chairs endorse Harris
Reuters
July 21, 2024
https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-50-democratic-party-us-231854254.html

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1718 on: July 22, 2024, 01:09:05 PM »
2024 election updates: Kamala Harris rakes in campaign donations after Biden drops out of race; Democrats offer early support
Campaign says Harris raised nearly $50 million after Biden endorsement.
Yahoo News Staff
Updated July 22, 2024
https://www.yahoo.com/news/live/2024-election-updates-kamala-harris-rakes-in-campaign-donations-after-biden-drops-out-of-race-democrats-offer-early-support-104345809.html

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1719 on: July 22, 2024, 01:53:49 PM »
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🇺🇲 2024 GE: Forbes/
@Harris_X_
 

🟥 Trump: 50%
🟦 Harris: 41%
⬜ Undecided: 9%
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With leans
🟥 Trump: 53%
🟦 Harris: 47%

Independents: Trump 56-44% (with leans)

https://x.com/IAPolls2022/status/1815453583976132891

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1720 on: July 22, 2024, 02:29:40 PM »
BREAKING NEWS: Dana White Introduces Donald Trump At The RNC




Great speech & introduction- well said Dana.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1721 on: July 22, 2024, 03:35:03 PM »
"So, we are forced to spend time and money on fighting Crooked Joe Biden, he polls badly after having a terrible debate, and quits the race. Now we have to start all over again. Shouldn’t the Republican Party be reimbursed for fraud in that everybody around Joe, including his doctors and the Fake News Media, knew he was not capable of running for, or being, President? Just askin’?
Mr Trump on Truth Social Jul 21 2024

You should file a class action lawsuit against these folks and see how that works out for you and your friends.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1722 on: July 22, 2024, 05:28:12 PM »
"So, we are forced to spend time and money on fighting Crooked Joe Biden, he polls badly after having a terrible debate, and quits the race. Now we have to start all over again. Shouldn’t the Republican Party be reimbursed for fraud in that everybody around Joe, including his doctors and the Fake News Media, knew he was not capable of running for, or being, President? Just askin’?
Mr Trump on Truth Social Jul 21 2024
Do you disagree ???
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1723 on: July 22, 2024, 06:04:16 PM »
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🚨🚨POLL🚨🚨

BREAKING: An overnight Forbes / HarrisX poll shows Trump and Harris are TIED with Hispanics.

To put this in perspective: Democratic presidential candidates typically win Hispanics by 40 points.



https://x.com/GiancarloSopo/status/1815504852128051217

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🚨NEW POLL🚨

BREAKING: Another overnight poll, this time from Quinnipiac, shows Trump and Harris TIED among Hispanics at 39%.

Context: This would be the worst performance ever for Democrats with Hispanics, even lower than John Kerry's record low of 53% in 2004.



https://x.com/GiancarloSopo/status/1815515275896430716

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #1724 on: July 22, 2024, 06:05:37 PM »
Nailed it.  lol