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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #2525 on: October 26, 2024, 09:48:40 AM »
Harris won the debate, but it was much less about her, and more about him doing it to himself.

She memorized a bunch of stuff and baited him with the rallies thing, but she didn't have any substance.
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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #2526 on: October 26, 2024, 09:50:12 AM »
Please can anyone link to me the cliffs of the Joe Rogan interview?

I'd like to know what was said, but 3 hours!?

Thanks in advance
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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #2527 on: October 26, 2024, 09:54:25 AM »
Please can anyone link to me the cliffs of the Joe Rogan interview?

I'd like to know what was said, but 3 hours!?

Thanks in advance

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #2528 on: October 26, 2024, 10:33:14 AM »
Harris won the debate, but it was much less about her, and more about him doing it to himself.

She memorized a bunch of stuff and baited him with the rallies thing, but she didn't have any substance.

QFT. Trump came unglued and looked bad. It doesn’t mean she’s smarter or a better speaker, she gave him just enough rope to hang himself and he threw his head in the noose.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #2529 on: October 26, 2024, 11:08:59 AM »
Whatever helps you sleep at night... I'd put her intellect up against what scholars have said about Trumps intellectual level which is about at a 5th grade level. It's why he resonates with his base
Idiot!
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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #2530 on: October 26, 2024, 12:00:27 PM »
Dude, did you not watch the debate between Kamala and Donald? She obliterated him
You're embarrassing yourself, stop saying that. She did nothing of the sort. He dropped the ball 100% but she fumbled it picking it up. Neither one of them walked away from that debate a clear winner. In the end, the people that tuned into that debate should have walked away disappointed in their candidate for not stepping up.
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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #2531 on: October 26, 2024, 12:51:13 PM »
You're embarrassing yourself, stop saying that. She did nothing of the sort. He dropped the ball 100% but she fumbled it picking it up. Neither one of them walked away from that debate a clear winner. In the end, the people that tuned into that debate should have walked away disappointed in their candidate for not stepping up.


Unlike yourself - He & Prime are unable to be Honest about anything
Pedocrat - so they lie or deflect or ignore - They have No honour
or Moral's.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #2532 on: October 26, 2024, 12:53:32 PM »
Ask your questions for gods sake!!
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Yourself & Prime are unable to be Honest about anything
Pedocrat - so you lie or deflect or ignore - You have No honour
or Moral's.

Go Find Them Simpleton as your so bothered.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #2533 on: October 26, 2024, 01:22:16 PM »

Unlike yourself - He & Prime are unable to be Honest about anything
Pedocrat - so they lie or deflect or ignore - They have No honour
or Moral's.

Your concept of folks being honest is they are only when they agree with you. In your opinion, Agnostic and I are neither moral nor honest, but the truth is you don't know either of us well enough to make an accurate assessment of our character.

Tell me, do you think you are an honest person? Do you believe you are a moral person?

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #2534 on: October 26, 2024, 01:24:18 PM »
Yourself & Prime are unable to be Honest about anything
Pedocrat - so you lie or deflect or ignore - You have No honour
or Moral's.

Go Find Them Simpleton as your so bothered.

One thing about your posts is that you repeat yourself a lot in them.  ::)

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #2535 on: October 26, 2024, 01:28:07 PM »
QFT. Trump came unglued and looked bad. It doesn’t mean she’s smarter or a better speaker, she gave him just enough rope to hang himself and he threw his head in the noose.

Exactly.

But what also cannot be downplayed is that Trump was fact checked, while Harris was able to lie without consequence.  That is extremely hard.  Harris was blatantly lying when she said there were no troops in active zones, very fine people, et al.

Then Muir's "fact check" on crime turned out to be completely wrong.

So to say Harris "destroyed" Trump without adding context is disingenuous.  Only the true blue sheep believe it was due to her intelligence, wit and sharpness.
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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #2536 on: October 26, 2024, 01:45:09 PM »
Exactly.

But what also cannot be downplayed is that Trump was fact checked, while Harris was able to lie without consequence.  That is extremely hard.  Harris was blatantly lying when she said there were no troops in active zones, very fine people, et al.

Then Muir's "fact check" on crime turned out to be completely wrong.

So to say Harris "destroyed" Trump without adding context is disingenuous.  Only the true blue sheep believe it was due to her intelligence, wit and sharpness.

CNN and Daniel Dale continuously fact checks VP Harris and Trump, just as he did when Biden was in the mix.

Debate:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/10/politics/fact-check-debate-trump-harris/index.html

Town Hall:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/23/politics/video/fact-check-daniel-dale-fracking-taxes-border-kamala-harris-town-hall-digvid

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #2537 on: October 26, 2024, 02:30:00 PM »
CNN and Daniel Dale continuously fact checks VP Harris and Trump, just as he did when Biden was in the mix.

Debate:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/10/politics/fact-check-debate-trump-harris/index.html

Town Hall:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/23/politics/video/fact-check-daniel-dale-fracking-taxes-border-kamala-harris-town-hall-digvid

That's irrelevant because that's not within the context of what we were discussing.  It wasn't about fact checks in general, it was about Trump's performance at the debate being impacted by biased moderators.

The ABC moderators of the debate did not fact check Harris but certainly did fact check Trump.  Independent networks fact checking doesn't change the environment Trump was dealing with.

In addition, if people are watching ABC and ABC alone, they don't see what other networks are doing as well.

ABC should never be allowed to host a debate again.
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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #2538 on: October 26, 2024, 02:58:45 PM »
That's completely irrelevant because that's not the point.

The ABC moderators of the debate did not fact check Harris but certainly did fact check Trump.  Independent networks fact checking doesn't change the environment Trump was dealing with, which is the context we were discussing.

If people are watching ABC and ABC alone, they don't see what other networks are doing as well.

I get where you are coming from. You are correct they did fact check Trump's outrageous and blatant lies about abortion and eating dogs and cats, both of which had recently been debunked. They could have let them slide because one hopes that most people knew both had recently been proven false... many times over.

Networks including CNN and FOX fact check usually immediately following a debate, town hall or rally. Getting multiple points of view about what was fact and what wasn't is not difficult.

People who are interested in knowing whether candidates lied or not during a debate, rally or town hall will look further... or they should. What is more, most people know that politicians exaggerate and sometimes lie especially during election campaigns and do not accept everything they say on face value. 

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #2539 on: October 26, 2024, 03:19:24 PM »
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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #2540 on: October 26, 2024, 06:00:08 PM »
I get where you are coming from. You are correct they did fact check Trump's outrageous and blatant lies about abortion and eating dogs and cats, both of which had recently been debunked. They could have let them slide because one hopes that most people knew both had recently been proven false... many times over.

Networks including CNN and FOX fact check usually immediately following a debate, town hall or rally. Getting multiple points of view about what was fact and what wasn't is not difficult.

People who are interested in knowing whether candidates lied or not during a debate, rally or town hall will look further... or they should. What is more, most people know that politicians exaggerate and sometimes lie especially during election campaigns and do not accept everything they say on face value.
Yet you're ok that they didn't fact check Kuntmalas outrageous and blatant lies? This is a classic example of what I'm talking about when I say democrats stick together no matter how wrong they are.
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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #2541 on: October 26, 2024, 06:20:47 PM »
Yet you're ok that they didn't fact check Kuntmalas outrageous and blatant lies? This is a classic example of what I'm talking about when I say democrats stick together no matter how wrong they are.


Of course he is - he's full of double standards & hypocrisy
We see it over & over again on here.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #2542 on: October 27, 2024, 02:09:50 PM »
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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #2543 on: October 27, 2024, 04:44:02 PM »
I get where you are coming from. You are correct they did fact check Trump's outrageous and blatant lies about abortion and eating dogs and cats, both of which had recently been debunked. They could have let them slide because one hopes that most people knew both had recently been proven false... many times over.

Networks including CNN and FOX fact check usually immediately following a debate, town hall or rally. Getting multiple points of view about what was fact and what wasn't is not difficult.

People who are interested in knowing whether candidates lied or not during a debate, rally or town hall will look further... or they should. What is more, most people know that politicians exaggerate and sometimes lie especially during election campaigns and do not accept everything they say on face value.

I don't think they were proven false.  As Vance said, he had heard these claims from constituents, and the abortion one I saw proven correct, but I don't really recall it.

However, regardless, they fact checked one and not the other.  I imagine the debate would have gone much differently with moderators who were fair.  Imagine this:

"Madame Vice President, President Trump did not refer to nazis and white supremacists as "very fine people".  He specifically stated he was referring to the folks in the statue debate, and condemned the nazis and supremacists.  This has been known for years"

"Madame VP, we actually DO have our military in active zones over the world, your statement is incorrect"

"Madame VP, Donald Trump has repeatedly said he would not enforce a federal abortion ban, so that is a lie"

"Madame VP, Donald Trump has, on multiple occasions, denounced Project 2025 and says he wants no part of it, so that is a lie".

She would not have been able to operate with confidence and impunity.  She would have stumbled greatly.
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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #2544 on: October 27, 2024, 11:41:22 PM »
I don't think they were proven false.  As Vance said, he had heard these claims from constituents, and the abortion one I saw proven correct, but I don't really recall it.

However, regardless, they fact checked one and not the other.  I imagine the debate would have gone much differently with moderators who were fair.  Imagine this:

"Madame Vice President, President Trump did not refer to nazis and white supremacists as "very fine people".  He specifically stated he was referring to the folks in the statue debate, and condemned the nazis and supremacists.  This has been known for years"

"Madame VP, we actually DO have our military in active zones over the world, your statement is incorrect"

"Madame VP, Donald Trump has repeatedly said he would not enforce a federal abortion ban, so that is a lie"

"Madame VP, Donald Trump has, on multiple occasions, denounced Project 2025 and says he wants no part of it, so that is a lie".

She would not have been able to operate with confidence and impunity.  She would have stumbled greatly.

You are a very gullible person if you believe what Vance says. They were proven false several times over.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #2545 on: October 28, 2024, 12:02:14 AM »
You are a very gullible person if you believe what Vance says. They were proven false several times over.

You're a very gullible person also as all the China Virus nonsense has been proven & admitted
By the likes Fucboi Fauchi to be made crap.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #2546 on: October 28, 2024, 10:49:48 AM »
You are a very gullible person if you believe what Vance says. They were proven false several times over.

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #2547 on: October 28, 2024, 10:54:39 AM »
Trump must have been winning in Washington…..The left is in a complete panic

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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #2548 on: October 28, 2024, 10:54:47 AM »
You are a very gullible person if you believe what Vance says. They were proven false several times over.

I will accept this statement if you prove to me where it was proven that Vance has never heard of one of these complaints coming from his constituents.

And also show me where Vance recently has not been articulate, polite, knowledgeable, strong, and calm.  He has been ransacking corporate media for the past few months.  This is guy the liberals tried to smear as "weird".

I am also probably the least gullible person on this forum, I've been debunking this shit since 2016 when I actually debunked an article by finding their root data and proving the headline incorrect.
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Re: The 2024 General Election
« Reply #2549 on: October 28, 2024, 11:03:47 AM »
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