Mainstream Synthol Usage 2001

[Raymondo]

He definitely looks mentally ill here

John Litte lol

Add it to the pile of useless crap he's written, next to the Mike Mentzer hagiographies about how his idol was a misunderstood genius out to clean up the fitness industry cesspit and not a mentally ill pseudo-intellectual contrarian

[Hulkotron]

John Litte lol

Add it to the pile of useless crap he's written, next to the Mike Mentzer hagiographies about how his idol was a misunderstood genius out to clean up the fitness industry cesspit and not a mentally ill pseudo-intellectual contrarian

 

[BB]

I'll give Manfred this, he didn't stick around trying to Al Bundy it. Randall Strossen of Ironmind was a bit of a Hoeberl schmoe, and kept up with him. Still strong with grip stuff, but no love for any of the other strength stuff -

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www.manfredhoeberl.com .

[Van_Bilderass]

John Litte lol

Add it to the pile of useless crap he's written, next to the Mike Mentzer hagiographies about how his idol was a misunderstood genius out to clean up the fitness industry cesspit and not a mentally ill pseudo-intellectual contrarian

Mike might have been a natural contrarian, but I always perceived him as genuine at least; like he really believed what he said, false or not. Some of the things he said were unscientific when looked at today but the Arthur Jones/early Mike Mentzer brief but intense workouts seem to still be about the best we have today for bodybuilding, imho of course. The very late workouts with just holding a weight for a number of seconds in the shortened position for one set every two weeks went quite a bit over the logical line for me. Although he said this one set extension workout added slabs of muscle on either David or Peter Paul. I can actually believe that still since if you start something like this clean from hormones you can gain back muscle at a tremendous rate hopping back on with minimal lifting. He somehow applied Ayn Rand's philosophy to lifting in a way that didn't seem appropriate LOL. John Little had that partial shortened position program where he argued for how superior it was by how much more total weight you moved per workout. Totally misguided. If he'd said train in the lengthened position only that might have had some merit

Mike did make me think "critically" in my early teen years. There was nothing better then IMO

Manfred was able to lose his arms, which is good. The fella in the promuscle thread thinks it's permanent in his case pretty much. All scar tissue.

[joswift]

Mike did make me think "critically" in my early teen years. There was nothing better then IMO

Lol, a fly landing on a table makes you think critically

[Van_Bilderass]

Lol, a fly landing on a table makes you think critically

Haha some of my friends say I'm soo gullible! Easy to fool. They laugh as they say this so I'm not sure how serious LOL. May be true so I try to think critically, "check your sources" and all that crap. I'm 48 and my nephew is 21 and when he visits he always says what propaganda are you watching now and I answer I try not to take anyone's word for something just like that, and then would he please give me an 'unbiased' or 'objective' source! And I always point out that just because I watch something it doesn't mean I believe it. But like I always say on here, there are no strictly objective sources of anything, especially with news and such Another long winded reply but I desperately try to preempt misunderstandings.

[MAXX]

If you would like to know how the Synthol process works, the results and so on this is an interesting thread. The guy now admits he got carried away and totally fucked up.

https://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/index.php?threads/luki-offseason-blow-up-arms-at-3-with-syntherol-road-do-320lbs.165508/

yeah it does not look good what so ever. I don't understand how you can not see how bad it starts to look until you get to that point.

https://www.instagram.com/luki_jacked_coach/p/DP__o38iMB5/?img_index=1

[MAXX]

also Van you said synthol would dissapitate from the muscle like other carrier oils.

Well that guys last synthol injection was in 2021 according to himself, and in 2025 his arms still look like that. So is he still injecting oil?

[Van_Bilderass]

also Van you said synthol would dissapitate from the muscle like other carrier oils.

Well that guys last synthol injection was in 2021 according to himself, and in 2025 his arms still look like that. So is he still injecting oil?

I forget what he himself says but I believe it's massive amounts of scar tissue buildup. Hard to believe but how else to explain it? I know he says it's basically permanent and I would guess he blames scar tissue as well, I forget. The seller of Syntherol says the oil simply stretches the connective tissue temporarily and the permanent growth is then "real" muscle. Who can  then believe that when the shape changes like that, always for the worse? They say they have seen scans of Syntholed muscles and there's no oil, just muscle but can you see scar tissue through these images?

Go to the MCT section at 24:11. "Even long ester steroids brewed in MCT need to be injected daily to keep steady levels, it disperses so fast."

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What do you think?

[Van_Bilderass]

yeah it does not look good what so ever. I don't understand how you can not see how bad it starts to look until you get to that point.

https://www.instagram.com/luki_jacked_coach/p/DP__o38iMB5/?img_index=1

Milos said he could see that it started to look shitty but then he tried to 'correct' it by injecting in other parts of the same muscle, like a sculptor I guess

Guy already had like 52cm biceps.

[MAXX]

Milos said he could see that it started to look shitty but then he tried to 'correct' it by injecting in other parts of the same muscle, like a sculptor I guess

Guy already had like 52cm biceps.

well I looked the guy up on youtube to see how it really looks like and well it looks terrible in motion as well. Almost Greg velentino like nearing... he put it in delts and tric also, and god knows what else.

see 1:28 

[Van_Bilderass]

well I looked the guy up on youtube to see how it really looks like and well it looks terrible in motion as well. Almost Greg velentino like nearing... he put it in delts and tric also, and god knows what else.

see 1:28 

Yes it's a shame. He's not a "stupid" guy in that he understands his fuckups and constantly tries to do things smarter. If you read that thread you can see he has reasonable thoughts wrt bodybuilding, but also acknowledges that he's not a scientist, bodybuilder are experimenting by injecting different things in their asses. He was on the liver transplant list a while back but I think he's recovering as far as that. Says he hasn't done a workout without insulin in 15 years. Was doing very high doses of conventional steroids. If I'm not mistaken the liver took a hit from Dihydroboldenone or 1-Testosterone which they didn't know was apparently very liver toxic. I think he has a lot of competitive clients, a pro fitness gf, his own forum and so on, but then you wonder wtf he was thinking with the oil, I think he said he realized he could never be pro so he wanted to be monstrous at least. Always ripped.

[joswift]

yeah it does not look good what so ever. I don't understand how you can not see how bad it starts to look until you get to that point.

https://www.instagram.com/luki_jacked_coach/p/DP__o38iMB5/?img_index=1

fucks sake just look at what that retard is up to now

Current cycle (last week)​
Test decanoate – 350 mg/wk
Masteron E – 1050 mg/wk
Nandrolone (Deca + NPP) – 125 mg/wk
GH – 15 IU (training days), 10 IU (rest days)
L-carnitine (IM) – 600 mg/day
-300 mg fasted
-300 mg pre-workout
SLU-PP-332 – 1500 mcg/day
-750 mcg morning
-750 mcg pre-workout
Arimidex – 1 mg EOD
Clenbuterol (injectable) – 40 mcg/day
T3 + T4 – 30 mcg + 150 mcg
Yohimbine – 30 mg fasted
Humalog – 2×14 IU
-pre-meal: 8 IU before, 6 IU after
-post-meal: 8 IU before, 6 IU after

New cycle (starting next Monday)​
Test decanoate – 500 mg/wk
Primobolan E – 400 mg/wk
Nandrolone (Deca + NPP) – 125 mg/wk
GH – 15 IU / 10 IU
L-carnitine (IM) – 300 mg pre-workout
MOTS-C – 1 mg morning fasted
Arimidex – 0.5 mg EOD
T3 + T4 – 30 mcg + 150 mcg
IGF-LR3 – 50 mcg post-workout (training days only)
IGF-DES – 200 mcg during training into the trained muscle (bilateral)
Humalog – 2×14 IU
-pre-meal: 8 IU before, 6 IU after
-post-meal: 8 IU before, 6 IU after

who could be fucking arsed to do all that
I cant remember to take one BP med at bedtime

[38 returns]

some of these cycles with all the peptides etc you must be fucking rain man to remember them.

bottom line if a couple ml of test and one or two other compounds are getting you growing its largely fruitless. genetics plays a big big role.

if you are taking 54iu of hgh and a boatload of lasix to stand at 185 on stage its really not for you. the genetics and drug response just arent there. add in eating like shit and training like a moron and its a recipe for disaster.

[joswift]

some of these cycles with all the peptides etc you must be fucking rain man to remember them.

bottom line if a couple ml of test and one or two other compounds are getting you growing its largely fruitless. genetics plays a big big role.

if you are taking 54iu of hgh and a boatload of lasix to stand at 185 on stage its really not for you. the genetics and drug response just arent there. add in eating like shit and training like a moron and its a recipe for disaster.

Lets hope so

[Van_Bilderass]

fucks sake just look at what that retard is up to now


who could be fucking arsed to do all that
I cant remember to take one BP med at bedtime

But it's like he's dropped his steroids to a fifth of what it was before. High GH and everything else is "little" things, lots of products but not a heavy bodybuilding cycle at all. He's going for shreds and health

[MAXX]

But it's like he's dropped his steroids to a fifth of what it was before. High GH and everything else is "little" things, lots of products but not a heavy bodybuilding cycle at all. He's going for shreds and health

likely forced to do it due to health issues. Kidneys or whatever. Often they will not be open about all their issues untill it's really bad... like time for dialisys.

[Van_Bilderass]

likely forced to do it due to health issues. Kidneys or whatever. Often they will not be open about all their issues untill it's really bad... like time for dialisys.

Absolutely, I think he says it's for health considerations, plus realizing you didn't really need all that juice you did at high dose for years. He emerged as a "truth teller" of what stacks of advanced guys looked like and he was correct. But now they try to compensate with adding other chems and chems for actual health benefits and protection, hopefully. In the 90s they didn't give a shit about BP, never mind blood glucose and inflammatory markers like c-reactive protein and so on. And he showed standard medical treatment might not be the correct one always either, the drugs they give might make a situation worse sometimes. Like UDCA (TUDCA without the taurine) in his case. I got a script for a year of this compound for my gallbladder stones and it's hard to know if it still might be beneficial in certain situations, and at what dosage, without frequent blood work. And who's competent in reading blood work without being a doctor anyway. Or even a doc unfamiliar with PEDs. For example, one pro bb MD says don't go just by creatitine for bodybuilders looking at the kidneys, you need cystatin-c too.
And for liver ALT and AST do not give a complete picture, you want the GGT. And so on.

This fella says he remains very positive despite setbacks.

[38 returns]

when i was in hospital in april my c-reactive protein was 121

not good

[GymnJuice]

For example, one pro bb MD says don't go just by creatitine for bodybuilders looking at the kidneys, you need cystatin-c too.

That's true. Anyone with high muscle mass can have their creatinine levels be higher because it is a muscle breakdown product. So, they use different ways to look at kidney function besides the creatinine.

[wes]

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Current cycle (last week)​

Test decanoate – 350 mg/wk
Masteron E – 1050 mg/wk
Nandrolone (Deca + NPP) – 125 mg/wk
GH – 15 IU (training days), 10 IU (rest days)
L-carnitine (IM) – 600 mg/day
-300 mg fasted
-300 mg pre-workout
SLU-PP-332 – 1500 mcg/day
-750 mcg morning
-750 mcg pre-workout
Arimidex – 1 mg EOD
Clenbuterol (injectable) – 40 mcg/day
T3 + T4 – 30 mcg + 150 mcg
Yohimbine – 30 mg fasted
Humalog – 2×14 IU
-pre-meal: 8 IU before, 6 IU after
-post-meal: 8 IU before, 6 IU after

New cycle (starting next Monday)​
Test decanoate – 500 mg/wk
Primobolan E – 400 mg/wk
Nandrolone (Deca + NPP) – 125 mg/wk
GH – 15 IU / 10 IU
L-carnitine (IM) – 300 mg pre-workout
MOTS-C – 1 mg morning fasted
Arimidex – 0.5 mg EOD
T3 + T4 – 30 mcg + 150 mcg
IGF-LR3 – 50 mcg post-workout (training days only)
IGF-DES – 200 mcg during training into the trained muscle (bilateral)
Humalog – 2×14 IU
-pre-meal: 8 IU before, 6 IU after
-post-meal: 8 IU before, 6 IU after

Holy shit,I hated taking 2 shots per week.................... ..some people are just fucking insane.