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Anybody else have Familial Hypercholesterolemia?
« on: March 05, 2023, 02:13:51 AM »
I am pretty lean, eat very well, have high HDL and low Triglycerides and my Calcium heart score is less than 5, yet my total cholesterol is now over 300.

Anyone else have FH and what has been your experience and treatments etc?

I have never done gear either btw…

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Re: Anybody else have Familial Hypercholesterolemia?
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2023, 02:20:42 AM »
I am pretty lean, eat very well, have high HDL and low Triglycerides and my Calcium heart score is less than 5, yet my total cholesterol is now over 300.

Anyone else have FH and what has been your experience and treatments etc?

I have never done gear either btw…

Whats your HDL, LDL, Trig's and Risk-Ratio?

Many have high totals, because their good HDL is off the charts.

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Re: Anybody else have Familial Hypercholesterolemia?
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2023, 02:40:23 AM »
I am pretty lean, eat very well, have high HDL and low Triglycerides and my Calcium heart score is less than 5, yet my total cholesterol is now over 300.

Anyone else have FH and what has been your experience and treatments etc?

I have never done gear either btw…

Pretty much everyone in my family has a total cholesterol close to or above 300, no matter whether old or young, fit or fat.

My grandma is close to 100 and had total cholesterol higher than 300 all her life (and never took any medication or supplements to lower it).

Just forget it and keenly stay away from statins or crap like that, they're gonna f*ck u up. If you have genetically high cholesterol levels that means that your body can handle them as well.

Also, cholesterol is a highly controversial topic in general. Check out the "Rotterdam elderly study" with 10.000s subjects, folks with the highest cholesterol had by far the highest life expectancy there, and the ones with the lowest cholesterol levels died the youngest lol

The reason behind the cholesterol hysteria, pushed by the pharma industry, is to declare the majority of the population in need of treatment.

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Re: Anybody else have Familial Hypercholesterolemia?
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2023, 02:43:32 AM »

The reason behind the cholesterol hysteria, pushed by the pharma industry, is to declare the majority of the population in need of treatment.


Biggest selling drug in history. They put little kids on statins these days.. Criminal...

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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2023, 02:45:39 AM »
Pretty much everyone in my family has a total cholesterol close to or above 300, no matter whether old or young, fit or fat.

My grandma is close to 100 and had total cholesterol higher than 300 all her life (and never took any medication or supplements to lower it).

Just forget it and keenly stay away from statins or crap like that, they're gonna f*ck u up. If you have genetically high cholesterol levels that means that your body can handle them as well.

Also, cholesterol is a highly controversial topic in general. Check out the "Rotterdam elderly study" with 10.000s subjects, folks with the highest cholesterol had by far the highest life expectancy there, and the ones with the lowest cholesterol levels died the youngest lol

The reason behind the cholesterol hysteria, pushed by the pharma industry, is to declare the majority of the population in need of treatment.
oh yeah statins would be a last resort and only considered if a CT angiogram shows blockages.

My mom, who has high cholesterol, was on them for a few months when she was forty and she could barely get out of bed. She is now 80 and pretty healthy considering she still smokes.

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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2023, 02:50:49 AM »
Whats your HDL, LDL, Trig's and Risk-Ratio?

Many have high totals, because their good HDL is off the charts.
Total 315, HDL 61, TG 78, LDL 238, RCHD risk factor 3.91

Age 52, weight 175 (used to be chubby/bulked 240 before 2020), height 6’3” …. I am skinny as shit for my age and height compared to seemingly everyone.

Fasting glucose 86, HBA1C 5.2

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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2023, 02:53:04 AM »
Your cholesterol is where it's supposed to be  ;)

Nothing to worry about

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Re: Anybody else have Familial Hypercholesterolemia?
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2023, 03:21:07 AM »
Total 315, HDL 61, TG 78, LDL 238, RCHD risk factor 3.91

Age 52, weight 175 (used to be chubby/bulked 240 before 2020), height 6’3” …. I am skinny as shit for my age and height compared to seemingly everyone.

Fasting glucose 86, HBA1C 5.2

All of your numbers look good except for LDL.

The problem is there are different LDL's, good and bad (small and large). Not all LDL is bad.
You can always look into the specialized LDL tests if you were concerned.

Also, if you really wanted to try a supplement before going the statin-route (which you may not even need) is "real" Red Yeast Rice.
From other countries. Where it has Monacolin-K in it, a measured dose.
This is the naturally fermented "statin" that FDA coined "Lovastatin" after they stole for their own. (To protect us of course)  ::)

Used in Asian countries for millions of years.
Some countries are cracking down even on that, following suit.

But you can find it out there, tiny pills with 3mg in each one. (Three x a day for 9 mg is a good dose).
People see benefit w/ no sides unlike the synthetic counterparts.

You can try for 3 months, get re-tested. Also maybe look into the special LDL test, you may be fine and just doing daamge to the good LDL..

Like one guy said above, people with the lowest total-levels die more from heart attack, etc. Cholesterol is protectinve and important..

https://mainheartclinic.com/2011/05/cholesterol-particle-size/

Never tried this brand, its just an example:


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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2023, 03:26:20 AM »
All of your numbers look good except for LDL.

The problem is there are different LDL's, good and bad (small and large). Not all LDL is bad.
You can always look into the specialized LDL tests if you were concerned.

Also, if you really wanted to try a supplement before going the statin-route (which you may not even need) is "real" Red Yeast Rice.
From other countries. Where it has Monacolin-K in it, a measured dose.
This is the naturally fermented "statin" that FDA coined "Lovastatin" after they stole for their own. (To protect us of course)  ::)

Used in Asian countries for millions of years.
Some countries are cracking down even on that, following suit.

But you can find it out there, tiny pills with 3mg in each one. (Three x a day for 9 mg is a good dose).
People see benefit w/ no sides unlike the synthetic counterparts.

You can try for 3 months, get re-tested. Also maybe look into the special LDL test, you may be fine and just doing daamge to the good LDL..

Like one guy said above, people with the lowest total-levels die more from heart attack, etc. Cholesterol is protectinve and important..

https://mainheartclinic.com/2011/05/cholesterol-particle-size/

Never tried this brand, its just an example:


thanks for the info.

Yes, I wanna find out the composition of my LDL particles. Hopefully they are the big fluffy ones.

My doctor is a real bitch and just wants me on statins asap but I need to see some evidence of active heart disease.

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Re: Anybody else have Familial Hypercholesterolemia?
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2023, 03:31:21 AM »
thanks for the info.

Yes, I wanna find out the composition of my LDL particles. Hopefully they are the big fluffy ones.

My doctor is a real bitch and just wants me on statins asap but I need to see some evidence of active heart disease.

Thats what they do, push the drugs. They dont want to go the extra mile and actually do some work/research.
One of my kids, tested at 204-total, Doc wanted to prescribe statins (age 18 at the time). All numbers were in-range, a good HDL made the total a tad higher than 200.  ::)

I dont think so bitch...

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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2023, 03:32:16 AM »
Pretty much everyone in my family has a total cholesterol close to or above 300, no matter whether old or young, fit or fat.

My grandma is close to 100 and had total cholesterol higher than 300 all her life (and never took any medication or supplements to lower it).

Just forget it and keenly stay away from statins or crap like that, they're gonna f*ck u up. If you have genetically high cholesterol levels that means that your body can handle them as well.

Also, cholesterol is a highly controversial topic in general. Check out the "Rotterdam elderly study" with 10.000s subjects, folks with the highest cholesterol had by far the highest life expectancy there, and the ones with the lowest cholesterol levels died the youngest lol

The reason behind the cholesterol hysteria, pushed by the pharma industry, is to declare the majority of the population in need of treatment.
the threshold that triggers a script from the doctor was set by studies funded by the same people who produce Statins

I believe Stains are the major cause of dementia as cholesterol helps you form memories.

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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2023, 04:01:22 AM »
Thats what they do, push the drugs. They dont want to go the extra mile and actually do some work/research.
One of my kids, tested at 204-total, Doc wanted to prescribe statins (age 18 at the time). All numbers were in-range, a good HDL made the total a tad higher than 200.  ::)

I dont think so bitch...
weird thing is that in 2019, when I was in horrible shape, my HDL was bad at only 42 and my TG was bad at 120, but my total cholesterol was only 205 (they didn’t give an LDL for some reason but I guess it was around 155/160 which is way less than now.

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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2023, 04:02:10 AM »
the threshold that triggers a script from the doctor was set by studies funded by the same people who produce Statins

I believe Stains are the major cause of dementia as cholesterol helps you form memories.
this is another statin concern since I supposedly have the dementia gene.

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Re: Anybody else have Familial Hypercholesterolemia?
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2023, 04:07:23 AM »
your cholesterol can be at all sorts of levels and the 'experts' still no clue
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« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2023, 04:08:20 AM »
your cholesterol can be at all sorts of levels and the 'experts' still no clue

truth ^

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« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2023, 05:24:14 AM »
https://www.cdc.gov/genomics/disease/fh/FH.htm

Your doctor may be able to detect physical signs of FH during a clinical exam, although not everyone with FH has these signs. These physical signs of FH occur when extra cholesterol builds up in different parts of the body:


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« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2023, 05:26:57 AM »
the threshold that triggers a script from the doctor was set by studies funded by the same people who produce Statins

I believe Stains are the major cause of dementia as cholesterol helps you form memories.

Yeah, and the thresholds were constantly downregulated by the authorities over the decades as well. My doctor told me when he attended medical school about 35 years ago, the threshold for overall cholesterol was around 260, when he graduated from university it was 240, when he became an internist it was like 220, and the most recent threshold defined by the medical authorities is like 186.

If you take that seriously, around 85 - 90 % of the Western population would be in need of constant treatment or at least medical supervision all of a sudden.

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Re: Anybody else have Familial Hypercholesterolemia?
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2023, 06:47:43 AM »
I am pretty lean, eat very well, have high HDL and low Triglycerides and my Calcium heart score is less than 5, yet my total cholesterol is now over 300.

Anyone else have FH and what has been your experience and treatments etc?

I have never done gear either btw…

Did IFBB pros Antoine Vaillant have a high calcium heart score?

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« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2023, 07:46:55 AM »
Did IFBB pros Antoine Vaillant have a high calcium heart score?

Yup, that is also a subject not fully understood.
Calcification of plaque is also protective, prevents ruptures. You can have tiny spots of calcium, in a lot of places, which all add up for a score that initially appears high.
(And have zero blockages).

Lots who say "I have zero calcium score" end up having soft-plaque and blockages, and bypasses.
The test cant see the real dangerous stuff (soft plaque).

Its good to get the test, if you have any, it triggers all of the needed invasive tests to see if there's any danger/blockages.
I know as I went thru it all. In the end, some calcium, zero blockages, and 65% ejection-fraction which is tops for my age group.

One thing statins may do for people (who need them) is to calcify soft plaque and prevent rupture...

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« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2023, 08:30:55 AM »
Yup, that is also a subject not fully understood.
Calcification of plaque is also protective, prevents ruptures. You can have tiny spots of calcium, in a lot of places, which all add up for a score that initially appears high.
(And have zero blockages).

Lots who say "I have zero calcium score" end up having soft-plaque and blockages, and bypasses.
The test cant see the real dangerous stuff (soft plaque).

Its good to get the test, if you have any, it triggers all of the needed invasive tests to see if there's any danger/blockages.
I know as I went thru it all. In the end, some calcium, zero blockages, and 65% ejection-fraction which is tops for my age group.

One thing statins may do for people (who need them) is to calcify soft plaque and prevent rupture...
what tests besides calcium score did you get?

 What were your numbers like.

I have a Xanthelasma under my eyelid too btw.

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« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2023, 08:32:07 AM »
what tests besides calcium score did you get?

I have a Xanthelasma under my eyelid too btw.

Stress-echo, also nuclear-stress.. Both see inside arteries, etc...

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« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2023, 08:32:33 AM »
Stress-echo, also nuclear-stress.. Both see inside arteries, etc...
what were your numbers like?

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« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2023, 10:21:35 AM »
I am pretty lean, eat very well, have high HDL and low Triglycerides and my Calcium heart score is less than 5, yet my total cholesterol is now over 300.

Anyone else have FH and what has been your experience and treatments etc?

I have never done gear either btw…

My cholesterol was 267.

I too ate a clean diet, maintained a healthy weight and exercised everyday. High cholesterol runs in my family.

Instead of posting on Getbig and asking for advice I talked to my family Doctor.

Now my cholesterol is a healthy 160.

Be careful whose advice you take. Especially when it comes to your health.

 :)

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Re: Anybody else have Familial Hypercholesterolemia?
« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2023, 10:35:24 AM »
I take a statin called Rostuvastatin....no clue what my numbers are but when I diet for my show I will get off of it forever.

I trained 3 clients back in the day that were all on statins.....once they ate like I instructed them to,their numbers plummeted and their docs took them off their cholesterol meds.....I plan on doing the same.