was Andrew Jacked really better than Big Ramy ?

[hipolito mejia]

Rami beat Andrew Jackson at the Mr.O in December ....

Yet Last saturday a fairly better version of Ramy could'nt beat Andrew this time around ?

Am I the only who feels Ramy torso looked superior than Andrew at the Arnold ?



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[TheShape.]

Judging is different at the Arnold

[hipolito mejia]

Judging is different at the Arnold

So with the Olympia judging Ramy is top three.

Makes sense   

[Grape Ape]

Am I the only who feels Ramy torso looked superior than Andrew at the Arnold ?



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I'll bet you want to "feel Ramy's torso"

[hipolito mejia]

I'll bet you want to "feel Ramy's torso"

And you want to lick Nick's varicose vains .

[ChristopherA]

Ramy is the most overrated Mr. O since Cutler.  The best he looked was his pro debut in New York 2013. Every year after that his waist got bigger along with his oversized legs. Totally disproportionate.  Add in all the oil related nerve damage now, his thighs have no separation,  he's done

[gib]

Jacked should have been placed higher at Olympia in my view. But Yeah Ramy was great. Just does not have the detail that Jacked and the guy who won had.

Olympia in my view will be same top 3 as we had at Arnold, with Ramy still in top 6. I don't see Choopard winning against the top 2 in Arnold. And I don't see Nick Walker beating either, although he did look amazing at the Arnold. nailed the conditioning, sharp, huge, symmetrical, perfect posing, confident presence. But I think he has pushed it as far as he can. I cant see how he can improve. Jacked and the other guy who won have amazing structure and proportions, which will only look even more amazing as they pack on size.

[ChristopherA]

Jacked should have been placed higher at Olympia in my view. But Yeah Ramy was great. Just does not have the detail that Jacked and the guy who won had.

Olympia in my view will be same top 3 as we had at Arnold, with Ramy still in top 6. I don't see Choopard winning against the top 2 in Arnold. And I don't see Nick Walker beating either, although he did look amazing at the Arnold. nailed the conditioning, sharp, huge, symmetrical, perfect posing, confident presence. But I think he has pushed it as far as he can. I cant see how he can improve. Jacked and the other guy who won have amazing structure and proportions, which will only look even more amazing as they pack on size.

Correct on Walker. He's maxed out. What else can he really improve? Some really small details here and there but he can't compare to a couple of guys like Jacked and Samson will wildly superior frames. Hopefully this is a trend with judging where they reward these type of physiques more

[Darren Avey]

They're both great warriors and true inspirations for our children to look up to

[Scrancer]

Ramy looked great at the Arnold, his placing was garbage, imo. I thought Samson had the best overall build but Ramy should have been 2nd. Lego block Nick should have been eleventeenth

[pamith]

Where are the pictures??

[GymnJuice]

Where are the pictures??

Are you surfing the web from your phone? You can only see the pictures on the newer model phones that have color screens and don't flip open.

[hipolito mejia]

Ramy looked great at the Arnold, his placing was garbage, imo. I thought Samson had the best overall build but Ramy should have been 2nd. Lego block Nick should have been eleventeenth

This. 

[Van_Bilderass]

Jacked should have been placed higher at Olympia in my view. But Yeah Ramy was great. Just does not have the detail that Jacked and the guy who won had.

I'm not so sure about that. IMO Ramy has the same amount detail or better. The only problem with Ramy is that he's not aesthetically as pleasing. People can't quite put their finger on it, what is disturbing about Ramy, so they latch onto "detail" or "symmetry" when the reality is that Ramy had more detail, was more SYMMETRICAL but looked like a block of meat. He had more size than anyone, was in great shape, was very symmetrical but IS UGLY

Andrew Jacked has very little detail, one of the criticisms about him, especially from the back, but he has PRESENCE, his frame jumps out at you, especially the front double. People are mesmerized.

[AbrahamG]

Ramy looked great at the Arnold, his placing was garbage, imo. I thought Samson had the best overall build but Ramy should have been 2nd. Lego block Nick should have been eleventeenth

Welcome back and I agree with you on this assessment.  If you put Ramy in the middle, he'd have won a lot of poses.

[Fortress]

… eleventeenth.

Look into it.

[MAXX]

I'm not so sure about that. IMO Ramy has the same amount detail or better. The only problem with Ramy is that he's not aesthetically as pleasing. People can't quite put their finger on it, what is disturbing about Ramy, so they latch onto "detail" or "symmetry" when the reality is that Ramy had more detail, was more SYMMETRICAL but looked like a block of meat. He had more size than anyone, was in great shape, was very symmetrical but IS UGLY

Andrew Jacked has very little detail, one of the criticisms about him, especially from the back, but he has PRESENCE, his frame jumps out at you, especially the front double. People are mesmerized.

Do not agree. His arms has deflated. His lower back and xmas tree is gone. His quad muscles are starting to retract at the lower attachment like Ronnies did. And his muscle in general looks old and beat compared to his 2013-14 look.

[Humble Narcissist]

Correct on Walker. He's maxed out. What else can he really improve? Some really small details here and there but he can't compare to a couple of guys like Jacked and Samson will wildly superior frames. Hopefully this is a trend with judging where they reward these type of physiques more

Walker can only get better by fixing his calves.

[Pet shop boys]

Ramy was in great shape. but barely compared with top three to make a fear judgment ..... something was really weird. like if suddenly the IFBB was no longer for Ramy...

looking at pics and videos Ramy beat Andrew in majority of poses 



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[sway]

Ramy has been on the outs with the IFBB since he blew off the Pittsburg show. That being said, he’s done and has been for a couple of years. He’s falling apart and it’s only getting worse. It looked like they filled up his legs with air  at the AC they were so ridiculously big lol. He’s embarrassing himself at this point. Even Ronnie and Cutler knew it was time to walk away and not fall farther down the ladder.

Andrew and Samson aren’t gonna be around long. Andrew will be 39 this year and Samson will be 38, regardless of how old Foaud says he is. Who outside of Rhoden and Dexter in the modern era really got better as they aged? And they’re much heavier too.

[pamith]

Are you surfing the web from your phone? You can only see the pictures on the newer model phones that have color screens and don't flip open.

Bro...

[ChristopherA]

Ramy has been on the outs with the IFBB since he blew off the Pittsburg show. That being said, he’s done and has been for a couple of years. He’s falling apart and it’s only getting worse. It looked like they filled up his legs with air  at the AC they were so ridiculously big lol. He’s embarrassing himself at this point. Even Ronnie and Cutler knew it was time to walk away and not fall farther down the ladder.

Andrew and Samson aren’t gonna be around long. Andrew will be 39 this year and Samson will be 38, regardless of how old Foaud says he is. Who outside of Rhoden and Dexter in the modern era really got better as they aged? And they’re much heavier too.

I'm glad you brought up Andrew's age. I see fans saying he's primed to have this Ronnie Coleman like run. He's not 30yrs old. And they say he hasn't been pro long his body is fresh. A 39yr old body is still 39.

[Humble Narcissist]

I'm glad you brought up Andrew's age. I see fans saying he's primed to have this Ronnie Coleman like run. He's not 30yrs old. And they say he hasn't been pro long his body is fresh. A 39yr old body is still 39.

Why are all these pros so old? Arnold said you peak at 26.

[Bevo]

Why are all these pros so old? Arnold said you peak at 26.

They waited on muscle maturity to peak and timed it perfectly before starting to go to war onstage