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« on: April 27, 2006, 11:46:05 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2006, 11:54:04 AM »

Bodybuilding shows are so hard on the body. Combine those with other health problems and his age then it's not such a suprise.
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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2006, 11:54:53 AM »

Although AAS may not be the true culpret of Don's death I am sure they perhaps escalated his health problems.

As for Momo I cannot say but as for Andreas, he took BBing to the extreme. This guy did not beleive in and offseason and was always in shape. It is not healthy for a body to be soo low in bodyfat for long amounts of time.IMO no one else has ever been as shredded as Andres...Just look at his tricep in the attached picture.

This will always be an ongoing battle..

Do steroids cause problems?

Let's look at 2 greats

Arnold - recently had heart complications and needed surgery

and we have Louie, competed almost as many years, may/may not have been using the same AAS as Arnold and no complications we are aware of.

or Kevin Levrone and Flex Wheeler...both in the game about the same time frame, probably used the same amount of gear. Flex has to retire due to kidney problems and Ke decides to call it quits

Maybe not great comparisons but I think you get my drift.

In my mind does AAS use/abuse directly cause Death? No! Will it advance any current problems one has, ie: hairloss, CV problems, kidney problems ......YES!


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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2006, 11:57:52 AM »

Arnold's probs were congenital, nothing to do with using.

The health problems are related to drug use and dietary constrictions, not training.
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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2006, 12:14:21 PM »

No but if you look good with say 10 mgs of Dbol a day why not try 20 to look even better

This is the thought process with alot of ppl. Or they build up a tolerance of what they are using and need to up the dose irregardless.
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« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2006, 12:16:37 PM »

Andreas Munzer   30
BJ Johns   34
Charles Durr   45
Curtis Leffler   36
Derrick Whitsett   37
Don Ross   55
Don Youngblood   50
Fannie Barrios   39
Mike Mentzer   49
Mohammad Benaziza   28 ...20 fricken 8!!
Paul DeMayo   37
Ray Mentzer   47
Sonny Schmidt   46
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« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2006, 12:20:04 PM »

Yeah, but can you prove they are directly related to bodybuilding?

I think we can chalk up Munzer and Benaziza to BBing pretty directly... Momo dead within hours of drying up for the dutch grand prix (which he won) and Munzer's whole internal organs just turned to goo on him while on a precontest diet.
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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2006, 12:20:54 PM »

 At the very least if they had not been taking monster amounts of drugs and partaking in extreme diets they would have had a better shot.
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« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2006, 12:34:59 PM »

I bet nobody saw that coming with Don. He looked the epitome of good health in that picture.
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« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2006, 12:36:47 PM »

we're all going to fall apart when we get old.  Much of it is genetic.  But BBing extremes can speed up the process, and sometimes deliver problems you may never have seen.  That's life though... there could still be a piece of Skylab with your name on it as well.
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« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2006, 12:39:45 PM »

I bet nobody saw that coming with Don. He looked the epitome of good health in that picture.

Exactly!

he looks like a walking heart attack in that picture...

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« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2006, 12:42:02 PM »

Lee Preist BB career died when he announced he joined the PDI
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« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2006, 12:48:17 PM »

That pic of youngblood, is why ive never been interested in joining the steroid roller coaster.  Some of my friends continue to use yearround, and theyre all red and puffy all the time.   Like theyre going to blow up or something.    They cant walk 50 feet without sitting down....sad.
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« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2006, 12:54:02 PM »

This illustrates the sheer fucking 'load of balls' non issuse this is

Both of these guys died from drugs yes, but DIFFERENT FUCKING DRUGS

If you want to look at the guys who have suffered deaths that 'may' be linked purely to anabolic steroids (ie: guys whom did not observably suffer death from diurectic input, nor coke, nor heroin or other 'street recreationals') then you will be looking for a very long time

Whether diuretics, NSAIDS or whatever crap some prick bodybuilder with a priority for a shitty trophy rather than life itself decides to take, these are the lovlies that are and have been observably responsile for guys fucking themselves up, I mean christ, we can only wish that Shawn Ray mounts a comeback and loads up on Loop diuretics with an Advil chaser

The fact is that the long list of deaths of famous bodybuilders 'from steroids over the next twenty years' hasnt materialised, thats why these cunts in the media/medical game keep pushing their timeline back

They started saying this crap back in the 70's, then the 80's, then, when gear was illegalised in the 90's we had the same 'in twenty years' crap thrown at us, and hey, its now 2006 and what do we hear? we hear fuckwits such as Dr Harrison Pope repeating 'in twenty years time' quel suprise

BLAH FUCKING BLAH, FUCK OFF!!

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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2006, 12:56:35 PM »

I bet nobody saw that coming with Don. He looked the epitome of good health in that picture.

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« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2006, 12:57:14 PM »

I dont know whats more annoying , the fact that you M3ltd0wn every post, or your gay ass centering

Are you new here?


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« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2006, 01:00:37 PM »

Are you new here?


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« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2006, 01:02:00 PM »

Your mom was new to me last night

First time with vaginal sex huh?
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« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2006, 01:02:55 PM »

Your mom was new to me last night

LOL, erm, ok, you should be writing for the networks with comedy gold such as that in your armoury

Normally I wouldnt respond, but for christ sake, raise the bar will you? that was lame

Seriously, try again

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« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2006, 01:03:01 PM »

First time with vaginal sex huh?
Yeah, im so use to cummin in your ass or mouth
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« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2006, 01:04:02 PM »

Yeah, im so use to cummin in your ass or mouth

When did you name your little brother "your"?
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« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2006, 01:04:28 PM »

LOL, erm, ok, you should be writing for the networks with comedy gold such as that in your armoury

Normally I wouldnt respond, but for christ sake, raise the bar will you? that was lame

Seriously, try again


I f*cked your mom after the Bar last night, and she was lame ... I guess she can try again too

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« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2006, 01:05:08 PM »

When did you name your little brother "your"?
When I found out you were my lil brother
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« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2006, 01:06:17 PM »

I f*cked your mom after the Bar last night, and she was lame ... I guess she can try again too



OK, any chance you can go for three in a row?

Come on, hit us with your best work


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« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2006, 01:07:08 PM »

When I found out you were my lil brother

So you have sex with all your family members then, or just the male ones?
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