IIRC It was Steve Michalik that said if Bodybuilders believed Brillo pads made muscles
Grow Large that there wouldn't be a clean pot in the country !!

LOL! I was and somewhat remain kinda gullible when it comes to training.

Jack Lalanne once said he asked guys about why they took steroids as he was against them. He said they man he was speaking with asked him if he never tried something that sounded stupid but he had hoped it would work and Lalanne replied that now he understood because he would have drank beef blood if he thought it would help him.

Steroids are for those that choose to use them and one can only hope they do so as safely as possible. I think this is true of those here that use them and it should be noted that outside of bhanky ( a real maroon!) they do not deny said use, claiming to be natural or on whatever the fuque "bio-identical" stuff is, LOL!
The so-called pros like the Olympia guys that are shown here are the ignorant ones. They take way past what would be considered dangerous and they will pay the price.
Time to drink my first quart of bio-identical Platypus blood.
