Haha I think it's supposed to be a copy of the original Jacked 3D. Made by "Copykat labs" lol. But did Jacked ever contain DMHA? I never used Jacked but this stuff is strong and opens up your sinuses just like DMAA. I don't know where it's sold but my friend bought it off a steroid dealer lol.
Pretty sure the original Jack3d had DMAA and lord only knows what else. But it was a really good pre workout.
I tried to find Pack3d online but couldn't find it anywhere. Tgeres a different pre workout also called pack3d but it didn't have dmaa or dmha and totally different label.
Hi-tech now makes Jack3d. Its about as close as you can get to the original and it's o.k. I guess Hi-tech actually produces most of the supplements out there today for the more well known labels. Then they also make their own supplements that's usually better dosed/better price.
One of the best pre workouts ever was Craze. I think it was by a company called DS nutrition. After a year or so of selling it they got into pretty big trouble- massive lawsuits maybe even some criminal charges? Because it had some crazy designer stimulant that was supposedly similar to meth. Sounds similar to dmaa but what really fucked them in the lawsuit is they never listed the ingredient on the label.
I used to work fro. 10 pm to 8 am. I'd hit the gym at 8pm and take this craze stuff. It was wild. It was really fucking wild. Id be like a machine throught the night shift and still be wired when I made it home by 9 am. I still don't know what the mystery stimulant was.
