Shoulder instability?

[Fortress]

no more shoulder pressing, just do lateral raises

I never overhead press

There’s value in this advice. However, lateral raises, too, will slowly ruin your shoulders.

[The Scott]

Anyone here have shoulder instability? Went and saw dr today and he said that I have some torn ligaments around the ball of the shoulder which is allowing the ball to dislocate temporarily out of the socket a few times a day. Holy shit when it pops out that hurts like a son of a whore.  Anyone dealt with this?what helped it?

I think your problem is similar to mine.  More than a decade ago there was a bit of an accident at work and I chose to get hit with a rack of equipment to prevent a good friend and co-worker from being squished.  It weighed around 500 lbs and I lifted it high enough off myself so he could get out and then got it stable. 

Unfortunately, I apparently tore all tendons off both my shoulders.  I did not know this until after my recent heart attacks as they saw something in my multiple x-rays and scans and sent me to I think it is called orthopedics (?).  Somehow over that decade my tendons grew and re-attached to remnants on my shoulder girdle but in the meantime  I worn away all cartilage/cushioning and my only hint to that was what you have.

My shoulders would become "disconnected"  It doesn't hurt but it is uncomfortable for me and I must work to get the effected side(s) back in alignment.  They said I could opt for a complete shoulder replacement which usually takes 2.5 years per side to recover.

I declined surgery just as I did surgery on my spine and bad leg as my attending physicians all say that it is too risky for someone with my relative strength and range of motion.  I am being studied due to the tendons doing what they did and receive experimental treatments to assist me.  I only know that said treatments are not stem cell in origin.

I can't shoulder press for shit unless I had to in an emergency and then I would do all that I could to move something up and off a loved one or friend.  I mostly do very light DB Laterals for up to 10 sets of 50 down to 5 or so reps.  My doctors agree that this is my best method of rehab and getting stronger and hopefully regaining some ROM as well as build up the muscle tissue to hold things better in place and prevent dislocation.

Down the road there may well be breakthrough replacement options for shoulder cartilage.  Right now there is one such treatment for knees, but I was told it is not that good and not for shoulders.

I hope I was helpful to you.  We have a similar problem and I cannot imagine the pain it must cause you.

[joswift]

There’s value in this advice. However, lateral raises, too, will slowly ruin your shoulders.

slow and controlled up and down and dont go higher than horizontal...
and do them seated so you dont end up cheating

[Humble Narcissist]

There’s value in this advice. However, lateral raises, too, will slowly ruin your shoulders.

Stopped doing them as well.

[joswift]

Stopped doing them as well.

I do 3 sets 12-15 reps each side lateral raises after chest
Thats my entire direct shoulder work
I get a great pump and workout in my delts from any pressing movement for chest
Delts are desighed to push away from the body, not overhead

[Humble Narcissist]

I do 3 sets 12-15 reps each side lateral raises after chest
Thats my entire direct shoulder work
I get a great pump and workout in my delts from any pressing movement for chest
Delts are desighed to push away from the body, not overhead

Yeah, most people overtrain by doing presses anyway. Chest work hammers the delts and adding a bunch of sets is too much.

[Relentless458]

if youre eating a diet that causes hair loss expect other losses along the way.  U might need to use tuning forks to resonate your muscles back to form. Wilhelm reich device will help i think he may have been a nazi science boy who turned a new leaf

Take your junkie ass back to your tent bitch! Before I tell your dad how you suck dick in East  Durham for meth and crack. You are a fuckin disgrace

[Humble Narcissist]

Take your junkie ass back to your tent bitch! Before I tell your dad how you suck dick in East  Durham for meth and crack. You are a fuckin disgrace

Please tell us the East Durham story.

[Gym Rat]

The worst part is waking up every hour because of the pain at night. For some reason its much worse than when upright during the day.

[Krankenstein]

Yeah everytime it slips out it’s brutal pain. Happened around 5 times today. Thank you sir.

He said it should heal on its own in 8-12 weeks or something with rehab.


He said something about glenoid labrum tear, said rehab could help it.

I know you do or have done this kind of stuff or know about it so what do you think is best course of action?

The labrum is the "spongy" cushion for your arm in the socket to be as basic as possible. Was there mention of a "SLAP" tear?

Some things to start doing.  These are NOT to be done heavy.  Think light, slow, and controlled :

[Krankenstein]

I had my labrum repaired if you don’t get it done it will keep slipping and you will get damage to the ball socket which I have now

You never have done rehab, nor do you ever do pre-hab things for your wrecked body. 

You have ZERO clue how bad his tear is.  Surgery is not always the first indicated option.  Even after rehabbing things a person should continue with those same things to maintain stability of the joint.

You have such incredible internally rotated shoulders that I predict ANOTHER repair for you very soon

[Krankenstein]

Wait until you have healed to do any kind of extensive physical therapy.  Doing it now will only cause more inflammation and irritation to the area.

Also, even after you have healed and feel no pain or tightness continue to do some kind of target work on that area.  I know a lot of people that self healed and a couple of years later started having issues with arthritis in the shoulder area (pain, mobility impairment, etc..)  Once that sets in, it is a real bitch to overcome.  It doesn't really go away unless you have it scoped out.

Incorrect logic on your first part....sound logic on the second part

People start PT exercises the day after rotator repair...and joint replacement.  Also, the shaving down of spurs lasts about 5 - 7 years.  The spurs will come come back

Current research on things like a disc issue show that the inflammatory process is actually necessary for a disc to heal.

[Krankenstein]

Did you have an MRI on the shoulder?

It's difficult for a correct diagnosis without one.  Soft tissues don't show up on x-rays.

I'll wager that this will clear up after a few weeks to a month leaving it alone.

Might take longer of course.

Take ibuproefen for a few days to reduce the inflammation and pain. 

Don't be fooled by the reduction in pain from the ibuproefen.  This doesn't mean you are ok to train.

Ironat GDCS (Getbig Doctor of Common Sense)

Some orthopoedic tests are highly sensitive for soft tissue injuries.  Example : mcmurray's for meniscus and o'briens test for labrum/ac joint

The ibuprofen should be taken for about 7 days according to most ortho docs.  You need to build up that therapeutic level in the body....and thats at a level of 800mg 3x a day. 

[US MUSL]

I ruptured my bicep tendon and damaged my rotator cuff at work. Had both repaired within two weeks of the injury. Started physical therapy a day after surgery, at times it was torture for 20 weeks. Sleeping over an hour at a time the first three months was almost impossible. It took about a year to fully recover. Two and a half years later my shoulder feels better than I can ever remember.  Wish the other shoulder felt as well.

[tatoo]

Anyone here have shoulder instability? Went and saw dr today and he said that I have some torn ligaments around the ball of the shoulder which is allowing the ball to dislocate temporarily out of the socket a few times a day. Holy shit when it pops out that hurts like a son of a whore.  Anyone dealt with this?what helped it?

best friend had it... never fixed it...it was a football injury... he trained with a neutral grip any exercise that allowed it after that... i believe it eventually healed itself over the years because he never got it looked at
 

[Gym Rat]

Because of the recent sleepless nights from shoulder pain, I took a 5mg Oxycodone, and 2 Aleeve PM's at 5 PM yesterday.
I lied down at 5:30 PM and went right out.
When I woke up and looked at the clock, I was bummed for a few mins when it said "5:45" thinking I dozed for 15 mins.
When I came to my senses, I realized it was 5:45 this AM and I slept for 12 hours straight.

Talk about heavenly... Gym session this AM was amazing, I went for almost 2 hours and could have kept going.
Good sleep is amazing. (Even if drug induced).

Like the great poster above (tatoo) mentioned "after a while it just heals". But like many Doc's say "it does heal, but probably incorrectly".
(If you don't do the proper rehab). Which then opens you up to repeatedly injuring the same area.

In any case, I tested my bench (for pain) while at the gym. I felt so much better for some reason.
245 x 3 for 4 sets, the most I've done in 6-months since the re-injure. Didnt want to push so I stopped there.

Krank and others have some amazing info here about rehab. Following along and incorporating some of it myself...

[robcguns]

Thank you everyone for responding. I will be doing those exercises you posted krank,much appreciated. I don’t remember the dr saying slap tear but I will check back with him about that.

Yeah GR nothing like sleeping 12 hours. I haven’t done it in so long but I imagine it’s wonderful.