Anheuser-Busch

[Irongrip400]

I saw an interview with the VP of marketing or whatever her title was. She basically was saying while they know they're alienating a certain aspect of their base at the same time they're showing how inclusive they are to the younger generation.  Soon enough that older base will die off anyway and they are building bridges to this new woke generation. Yeah she's a stupid bitch but I gotta ask is her thinking wrong? I'm kinda 50/50 here. Part of me thinks they underestimate how accepted the trans horseshit is. I think it's a pretty small percentage that dont see these mentally ill freaks they are. But I could be out of touch at 45yrs old.

They’re probably looking at it as, 17% of this Gen Z are lgbqt and just like you said, older people are dying and this new generation is accepting of it. It’s scary, I have kids and worry about what it’ll be like. I’m in my 40’s as well and I wonder if I’m out of touch and that this type of shit is acceptable. I think back to when nascar changed to be more inclusive. Not like this, but had beer and cigarette companies stop advertising and no more rebel flags at races. The thought was that they would alienate their fan base. Well, here we are 20 years later and folks are still watching. I suspect same will happen with bud light.

[obsidian]

 
 
 

https://nypost.com/2023/04/12/anheuser-busch-down-5b-in-value-amid-dylan-mulvaney-bud-light-controversy/

Anheuser-Busch loses more than $5 billion in value

Only 4% down? That's nothing. Would be great if they were down 80%!

I am not sure if going woke means going broke, unfortunately. Has any company that embraced wokeness gone out of business yet?

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/woke-companies-broke-profits-1234710724/

Companies That Get ‘Woke’ Aren’t Going Broke — They’re More Profitable Than Ever

“GET WOKE, GO broke,” has become a rallying cry of the political right whenever they see a brand make the slightest effort to align itself with liberal or progressive values. It’s a meme that allows MAGA country to believe that there is ongoing, massive backlash to products that acknowledge and celebrate marginalized communities. But the supposed boycotts never seem to be reflected in the bottom line.

Besides, by the time we would expect to notice any effect, conservatives have already moved on to the next outrage. Kid Rock and Travis Tritt declared war this week against brewer Anheuser-Busch for a Bud Light partnership with trans actor Dylan Mulvaney, yet the focus has already shifted to the whiskey Jack Daniel’s because of its ad campaign featuring drag queens — which happens to be from 2021.

More at the link below:

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/woke-companies-broke-profits-1234710724/

[beakdoctor]

there have been 146 mass shootings in the US in 2023.  Is it tone deaf to use white cis males in ad campaigns after the other 145? Show me one instance where this happened.

Bush and Coors and Heineken and Sam Adams and the rest have been running ads in gay publications and sponsoring floats in gay pride events, etc., for over 20 years.

Yeah, so what? If anything this emphasizes my point. Those companys already show support. There was no need to to put Dylan's mug on a beer can at that time especiallyfor the purpose of inclusivity when they are already doing their part

What decade are you living in? Better yet what world are you living in?

Why don't you do yourself a favor and look up the other 145 mass shootings? Guess where the majority of them occur and who's pulling the trigger?  It's now politically convenient to classify inner-city shootings as mass shootings even though the motive is completely different from the typical 'school shooter.' Completely different profile.

You must be living under some kind of fucking rock if you think white cis gender males are the face of anything in the year 2023?

Thats the irony with "progressives" they think they're stuck in 1950. So busy enjoying the constant pity party of the perennial victim that you're totally unaware of actual change.

[beakdoctor]

Spot on. Spot on.

[Moontrane]

 
 
 

https://nypost.com/2023/04/12/anheuser-busch-down-5b-in-value-amid-dylan-mulvaney-bud-light-controversy/

Anheuser-Busch loses more than $5 billion in value

It was on a good run the past 6 months - up over 40%.

https://www.google.com/search?q=anheuser+busch+stock&lr=&hl=en&ei=m1k3ZNSEF7HJkPIPnJaS0AE&ved=0ahUKEwiUvqyY2aX-AhWxJEQIHRyLBBoQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=anheuser+busch+stock&gs_lcp=Cgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAQAzILCAAQgAQQsQMQgwEyCwgAEIAEELEDEIMBMgQIABADMgQIABADMgsIABCABBCxAxCDATIECAAQAzIECAAQAzIECAAQAzIECAAQAzIECAAQAzoECAAQRzoNCAAQigUQsQMQgwEQQzoNCC4QigUQsQMQgwEQQzoRCC4QigUQsQMQgwEQxwEQ0QM6CwgAEIoFELEDEIMBOgsILhCABBDHARCvAToFCAAQgAQ6DQgAEIAEELEDEIMBEApKBAhBGABKBQhAEgExUJ8CWJ8MYKQRaABwAngAgAF7iAHVBJIBAzMuM5gBAKABAcgBCMABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

[Dave D]

oh i can tell you, the world has passed you by. You'll be dead soon and they want to appeal to younger folks,

What’s the insult?

[ChristopherA]

They’re probably looking at it as, 17% of this Gen Z are lgbqt and just like you said, older people are dying and this new generation is accepting of it. It’s scary, I have kids and worry about what it’ll be like. I’m in my 40’s as well and I wonder if I’m out of touch and that this type of shit is acceptable. I think back to when nascar changed to be more inclusive. Not like this, but had beer and cigarette companies stop advertising and no more rebel flags at races. The thought was that they would alienate their fan base. Well, here we are 20 years later and folks are still watching. I suspect same will happen with bud light.

My only thought is this. Being trans positive is almost "hip" now, its progressive. Some parents seemingly push their children to transition at ages they shouldn't be even thinking about such things. Let's fast forward 10-15yrs and see how accepted and pushed it is then. When we see what a life of being trans and getting the actual surgery brings them. The percentage of them that end up commiting suicide is very high. If I didn't say it already this isn't just being gay. It's a whole other animal wrapped up in memtal illness.

[ChristopherA]

What’s the insult?

X100

[obsidian]

Transgenderism and homosexuality are promoted by the elite to reduce the world's population. And to be honest, do you really want people with mental illnesses to reproduce? If they want to change gender go for it. Just don't have any kids!

[timfogarty]

My only thought is this. Being trans positive is almost "hip" now, its progressive. Some parents seemingly push their children to transition at ages they shouldn't be even thinking about such things. Let's fast forward 10-15yrs and see how accepted and pushed it is then. When we see what a life of being trans and getting the actual surgery brings them. The percentage of them that end up commiting suicide is very high. If I didn't say it already this isn't just being gay. It's a whole other animal wrapped up in memtal illness.

Parents are not pushing their children to transition. Some parents are listening to their kids more and accepting what the kid expresses.  These parents know that the number of trans kids committing suicide was very high in the past.  Trans kids were more likely to commit suicide when puberty kicks in and their body starts to develops characteristics different than the gender they feel they are.  Puberty blockers for kids who feel they are trans have reduced the number of suicides.  Puberty blockers allow the kid to live their gender for years before deciding to proceed to the next step.  Puberty blockers are reversible but the rate of kids changing their mind is very low, just a few percent.

[Matt]

[Gym Rat]

"Trans Kids"..."Trans Children".. There's something horribly wrong w/ these statements.

Looney Libz 

[Matt]

Parents are not pushing their children to transition. Some parents are listening to their kids more and accepting what the kid expresses.  These parents know that the number of trans kids committing suicide was very high in the past.  Trans kids were more likely to commit suicide when puberty kicks in and their body starts to develops characteristics different than the gender they feel they are.  Puberty blockers for kids who feel they are trans have reduced the number of suicides.  Puberty blockers allow the kid to live their gender for years before deciding to proceed to the next step.  Puberty blockers are reversible but the rate of kids changing their mind is very low, just a few percent.

You are one monumental piece of shit, Tim.

[Dokey111]

oh i can tell you, the world has passed you by. You'll be dead soon and they want to appeal to younger folks,

Phew I believe you must be right.  Oh well.

I had a great life.  A really great life.

Oh and no kids.  No regrets about that!

[timfogarty]

You are one monumental piece of shit, Tim.

He has a tattoo, which in most places in the US, means he's over 18.  And top surgery is never needed for trans boys who take puberty blockers. 

Also that was a terrible surgeon.   A google search of that pic show its being used everywhere on anti trans websites and posts, but I can find no mention of the person, or the reason for the bad scarring.  Why were the nipples removed?  That's more common for breast cancer than for top surgery.

Here is a pic of someone dear to me, Laith Ashley.  His surgeon did an amazing job.  Laith is in Taylor Swift's recent video Lavender Haze. (btw Laith dates girls)

[AbrahamG]

Here's the thing.

I don't usually give a shit if a company utilizes whoever they want to promote their product.  The market will tell them if they made a good or bad call.  Plus, they don't really care about the issues - they're a company who is trying to make money and have a good EIC rating - that's their focus.

As far as the whole trans thing - don't care at all - live and let live - just don't have biological men compete in sports against women, and don't lose your mind when people don't adopt your pronoun shit.  It's clown world type behavior.

Couldn't agree more.

[Zillotch]

You are one monumental piece of shit, Tim.

Tim is a reprobate:

a reprobate mind has no concept of the truth, nor can it.. for it has been seared, cauterized by the Creator.

when a human being becomes reprobate.. when that line in the sand is crossed - their soul is given over... thrust forward into sin (the desired state of man) and locked into damnation for eternity.

[SOMEPARTS]

[beakdoctor]

The idea that pre-pubescent children are more likely to commit suicide if they are not allowed to transition is misleading if not an outright lie altogether.

The trans community as a whole has a significantly higher suicide rate than the rest of the population whether they have fully transitioned or not. The rate of suicide in the trans community is outrageous, it is something like 2,000 TIMES more likely- not 2000 per cent but 'times.' The notion that you're saving a child from suicide by allowing them to transition is flawed. The same internal turmoil that compels them to transition is the same turmoil that compels them to take their own life. In other words the kind of person that is going to commit suicide is just as likely to carry out their suicide after they've transitioned.

Further,  we are talking PRE puberty...so 10, 11, 12 years old. You do know how exceedingly rare it is for children that young to commit suicide. Its such a small number as to be virtually none-existant. There is no epidemic of 10 year olds committing suicide. It happens so rarely that it's absurd to cite it as a justification for supporting children transitioning..

The simple truth is once it became a requirement for insurance to cover trans surgeries it became a cash cow for doctors and clinics specializing in gender reassignment surgery and that's when this myth materialized about kids kikking themselves. Its a huge money maker for these assholes because federal law requires insurance to cover it.

[Matt]

What decade are you living in? Better yet what world are you living in?

Why don't you do yourself a favor and look up the other 145 mass shootings? Guess where the majority of them occur and who's pulling the trigger?  It's now politically convenient to classify inner-city shootings as mass shootings even though the motive is completely different from the typical 'school shooter.' Completely different profile.

You must be living under some kind of fucking rock if you think white cis gender males are the face of anything in the year 2023?

Thats the irony with "progressives" they think they're stuck in 1950. So busy enjoying the constant pity party of the perennial victim that you're totally unaware of actual change.

Mass shootings with 9+ victims are spread pretty evenly by race, with White males being responsible for about 60% of them, which us a slight underrepresentation.

Mass shootings with 4+ victims are mostly Black drive-bys.

Tim is a fucking idiot. As you said, he's stuck in 1950.

[Grape Ape]

He has a tattoo, which in most places in the US, means he's over 18.  And top surgery is never needed for trans boys who take puberty blockers. 

Also that was a terrible surgeon.   A google search of that pic show its being used everywhere on anti trans websites and posts, but I can find no mention of the person, or the reason for the bad scarring.  Why were the nipples removed?  That's more common for breast cancer than for top surgery.

Here is a pic of someone dear to me, Laith Ashley.  His surgeon did an amazing job.  Laith is in Taylor Swift's recent video Lavender Haze. (btw Laith dates girls)

90% of those who identify as transgender grow out of it by ages 18-19 and accept their biological identity, and the majority of those turn out to be gay.  That is the math, and why puberty blockers and surgery are bullshit before that age.

But you use BS terms like “cis” which shows you should not be taken seriously.

[Dave D]

Parents are not pushing their children to transition. Some parents are listening to their kids more and accepting what the kid expresses.  These parents know that the number of trans kids committing suicide was very high in the past.  Trans kids were more likely to commit suicide when puberty kicks in and their body starts to develops characteristics different than the gender they feel they are.  Puberty blockers for kids who feel they are trans have reduced the number of suicides.  Puberty blockers allow the kid to live their gender for years before deciding to proceed to the next step.  Puberty blockers are reversible but the rate of kids changing their mind is very low, just a few percent.

Tim you bring up a good point in that parents should be listening to their children more. But when should they allow life altering decisions?

Why can a 10 year decide to change their sex but they can’t buy alcohol, tobacco, fireworks, drive, vote , sign a legally binding contract, etc…

Do you know the depression and suicidal rates for teen girls is higher than ever and it’s not about issues like basic needs being met (having enough food to eat dinner or having shelter).

Why do you think we teach people eating disorders like anorexic are bad and that you need to love and accept yourself yet we teach the exact opposite for sexual identity?

[kreator]

I'm being totally honest here - I can't for the life of me understand why they did this.  They are not dumb people.  They've got or got access to the best and the brightest that the world has to offer in terms of marketing and advertising.

WTF is going on?

People don't understand how big corporations work at the highest level. essentially all are owned by same companies and people.. These people have enough money so they don't give a sh1t about it anymore. All they care about is shaping the world by forcing such agendas. Same with holywood and the remakes with female cast. They know their movies will flop but it's not the money they are after. When will people wake up and realize the boycotting of these products will not resolve anything ( you should do it anyways) but destroying the satanic fvcks who run the world will.

[Van_Bilderass]

My thought is that they are taking a risk of this blowing up in their faces if and when this tranny is shown to be a pedo or there is some other scandal. Pedofilia is still a major taboo in society, and most people seem to feel pedos should be tortured to death. I think pedofilia is associated with homosexuality, I wouldn't believe stats that claim to show otherwise. Trannies are mostly some type of homos at the same time. This tranny dancing dressed like a little girl is concerning and inappropiate to me and I know many agree but apparently many also feel it's great.

Idon't really get so worked up over these types of trends, they are humorous in a way, it's a circus you can watch. Same with the trannies competing in women's sports, I think it's hilarious especially when it has been white women who have pushed for this insanity. See how you like it now. Moreover I don' t think it's a "threat" to women's sports because the majority will not see the tranny as a legitimate winner, there will always be an asterisk next to the tranny's name.

Regarding the puberty blockers being reversible and safe. I don't think so. If these types of hormonal interventions were done for any other reason, say for athletic performance, imagine the furor about how dangerous they are. Parents have gone to prison for giving their kids anabolics - because it's perceived as so dangerous (though interestingly there is some data showing that using certain anabolic steroids as a pre-teen is pretty safe). But I don't think you can retard puberty for years without consequences. And how would this work at school? Some kids are stressed when their puberty doesn't seem to start and their friends are alll in puberty. Then imagine a tranny who might be years behind in development, the tranny would look out of place and perhaps might be bullied or at least feel very out of place.

And the trannies are almost always very mentally ill, apart from the gender delusion. Autism is common and the list goes on.

[timfogarty]

Tim you bring up a good point in that parents should be listening to their children more. But when should they allow life altering decisions?

Why can a 10 year decide to change their sex but they can’t buy alcohol, tobacco, fireworks, drive, vote , sign a legally binding contract, etc…

Do you know the depression and suicidal rates for teen girls is higher than ever and it’s not about issues like basic needs being met (having enough food to eat dinner or having shelter).

Why do you think we teach people eating disorders like anorexic are bad and that you need to love and accept yourself yet we teach the exact opposite for sexual identity?

I don't think you can compare a kid starving themselves because they think society says that's the only way to be desirable, and a kid knowing that they are a boy or a girl. 

Are boys and girls different?   At age 5 do most boys act a certain way and most girls act a different way?  At 5 you knew that you were a boy and it wasn't because you knew you had a penis.  It wasn't because your testicles were producing testosterone, because they weren't.  It was because your brain was wired a certain way.  So why is it so hard to believe that the way the brain is wired can sometimes not match the sexual organs?

10 years olds are not changing sex.  They're being allowed to present themselves as the gender they see themselves.  When puberty kicks in, with the recommendation of a doctor, they take puberty blockers.  If they change their mind, then puberty was simply delayed.  Then when they are older, after many years of living as their desired gender, and again with the recommendation of a doctor, they can take hormones.

Most of the revulsion some people have towards trans women is that they don't look quite feminine enough.  Puberty blockers prevent that.  The suicide rate in trans kids increases at puberty because their bodies are changing in a way that goes against their self image.  Puberty blockers prevent that.  Puberty blockers for trans men eliminate the need for top surgery.  And puberty blockers are reversible.

If you would like a real life example, watch this youtube clip from 8 years ago

and then a recent follow up (from Fox News of all things)

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6307583800112