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Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2023, 12:00:01 PM »
That's because ALL OF US are more likely to get killed by someone we know - as such cases make up a majority of all murders, whereas random crime is only a small portion of it.

I.e.,

93% of Black murder victims are killed by other Blacks.
86% of White people are killed by other Whites.

The #1 cause of death for Black men aged 18-34 is homicide, and the #1 cause of death for White men aged 18-34 is accidents.

So in both cases, we bring this on ourselves.

But OAK's contention is with the murder rate of the USA, period.

If he cared about this, he would not want an increase in racial diversity, which is the #1 cause of the number of murders increasing in North America increasing.

I read that over 90% of murderers are Democrats too. I don't know if that number is exactly correct, but it's surely pretty close.

OAK says nothing about that. He promotes endless third world immigration in Canada, even though it has greatly increased our level of violent crime.

Why is OAK complaining about something that he wants, and votes for?

2021 Gun Deaths:

US: 45,222

Canada: 297


"More guns equal less deaths."

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Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2023, 12:06:15 PM »
I dont care about murderers, I care about victims, that what I'd potentially be. Now what race is more statistically likely to kill you, that would be your own.

That’s why liberals like you talk a good game, but you want nothing to do with the blacks that you pretend to care so much about. Long Distance Activists.

The reality is blacks, and Hispanics do almost all the robbing and killing in New York City. If you are a victim, the perp is almost certainly going to be one of those two groups. I continually have to remind myself of the level of cognitive dissidence among liberals.

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Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2023, 12:16:49 PM »
That’s why liberals like you talk a good game, but you want nothing to do with the blacks that you pretend to care so much about. Long Distance Activists.
I did move to literally the most diverse place in the world, im pretty in it

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Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2023, 12:28:34 PM »
2021 Gun Deaths:

US: 45,222

Canada: 297


"More guns equal less deaths."

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You're including suicide in that figure, you fucking idiot!

Canada had 4,500 suicides last year, and the USA has ten times the population. So pro-rata, that would be equal to 45,000 suicides in the USA.

So yet AGAIN, the Canadian and American numbers are very similar. And you're not even including the 13,000 euthanasia deaths performed by Canada's government.

You really are a disingenuous fool, OAK. Except you're not fooling anyone here.

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« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2023, 12:30:11 PM »
I did move to literally the most diverse place in the world, im pretty in it

And you're saying you don't notice racial disparities in violence, even still?

If so, I don't believe you.

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Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2023, 12:44:28 PM »
You're including suicide in that figure, you fucking idiot!

Canada had 4,500 suicides last year, and the USA has ten times the population. So pro-rata, that would be equal to 45,000 suicides in the USA.

So yet AGAIN, the Canadian and American numbers are very similar. And you're not even including the 13,000 euthanasia deaths performed by Canada's government.

You really are a disingenuous fool, OAK. Except you're not fooling anyone here.

LOL

As usual your math is completely wrong.

Next you'll be arguing that 1 + 1 = 5.


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Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
« Reply #31 on: April 17, 2023, 01:06:33 PM »
I did move to literally the most diverse place in the world, im pretty in it

It might be diverse, but it’s very segregated.


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Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2023, 01:08:27 PM »
And you're saying you don't notice racial disparities in violence, even still?

If so, I don't believe you.

He does. Just can’t admit it.

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« Reply #33 on: April 17, 2023, 01:09:41 PM »

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Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
« Reply #34 on: April 17, 2023, 01:15:55 PM »
And you're saying you don't notice racial disparities in violence, even still?

If so, I don't believe you.
notice violence? am i fuking batman? no, it's new york, you keep your head down and mind your business. Sure i know to stay away from the poorer neighborhoods but i also know to stay the fuck away from penn station when a ranger playoff game is happening

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Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
« Reply #35 on: April 17, 2023, 05:09:23 PM »
LOL

As usual your math is completely wrong.

Next you'll be arguing that 1 + 1 = 5.


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Are you a fucking moron?

The USA has 45,000 gun deaths, and 30,000 are suicides.

Subtract the suicides, and you have 15,000.

Now take away the 75% which are Black and Hispanic, and you have 11,250 non-White shooting deaths.

That leaves 3,750.

Now adjust for the fact that the USA is 10x the size, and that number is equivalent to 375 shooting deaths in Canada.

And we end up with a figure that is slightly higher for the USA, but not much different.

Here's a test for you, ChOAK:

Post a Canadian region that has 500,000 people that is 90%+ White.

Now post an American region that has 500,000 people that is 90%+ White.

Once you do that, you can compare the murder rates.

So go ahead and list one region in each country that has 500K people that is at least 90% White. Go search on Wikipdia if you have to.

Post the regions here.

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« Reply #36 on: April 17, 2023, 05:14:32 PM »
It might be diverse, but it’s very segregated.

Exactly - people tend to self-segregate, even in areas that are demographically diverse. That's why so many people manage to escape this stuff - they just avoid it by way of voluntary self-segregation.

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« Reply #37 on: April 17, 2023, 05:15:47 PM »

LOL!!! 😂

Even AI is forced to admit this - and then starts touching on the usual litany of bullshit of blaming everything on White people.

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Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
« Reply #38 on: April 17, 2023, 05:22:10 PM »
notice violence? am i fuking batman? no, it's new york, you keep your head down and mind your business. Sure i know to stay away from the poorer neighborhoods but i also know to stay the fuck away from penn station when a ranger playoff game is happening

Poor White areas have lower murder rates than middle class and rich Black areas.

There are more poor Whites and Asians there are ALL Black people in the USA. Those poor Whites and Asians - who, again, outnumber the ENTIRE Black population, have a lower absolute number of murders than all Black people.

The bottom line is that as an individual predictor of murder, race is the most powerful single variable there is to calculate.

While poverty is somewhat of a proxy, race is the biggest predictor.

It would probably be sex or age...but those are spread too evenly to met.

If there was a city that had a population of 95% men under 40, you'd probably have a stronger predictor.

It doesn't matter if you don't acknowledge that murder rate varies by rate. It just "is" whether you like it or not.

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Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
« Reply #39 on: April 17, 2023, 05:27:40 PM »
Exactly - people tend to self-segregate, even in areas that are demographically diverse. That's why so many people manage to escape this stuff - they just avoid it by way of voluntary self-segregation.

This is a very liberal area of Brooklyn. 2% Black and the Hispanics all live on the Southside.

Based on data from the 2010 United States census, the combined population of the Williamsburg and North Side/South Side areas was 78,700, a change of 6,301 (8%) from the 72,399 counted in 2000. Covering an area of 923.54 acres (373.74 ha), the neighborhood had a population density of 85.2 inhabitants per acre (54,500/sq mi; 21,100/km2).[3]

The racial make-up of the neighborhood was 66.5% (52,334) White, 26.3% (20,727) Hispanic or Latino, 2.9% (2,275) Asian, 2.8% (2,186) African American, 0.4% (361) from other races, and 1% (811) from two or more races.[4]

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« Reply #40 on: April 17, 2023, 05:31:32 PM »
Are you a fucking moron?

The USA has 45,000 gun deaths, and 30,000 are suicides.

Subtract the suicides, and you have 15,000.

Now take away the 75% which are Black and Hispanic, and you have 11,250 non-White shooting deaths.

That leaves 3,750.

Now adjust for the fact that the USA is 10x the size, and that number is equivalent to 375 shooting deaths in Canada.

And we end up with a figure that is slightly higher for the USA, but not much different.

Here's a test for you, ChOAK:

Post a Canadian region that has 500,000 people that is 90%+ White.

Now post an American region that has 500,000 people that is 90%+ White.

Once you do that, you can compare the murder rates.

So go ahead and list one region in each country that has 500K people that is at least 90% White. Go search on Wikipdia if you have to.

Post the regions here.

So much for Canada having a higher gun homicide rate than the US.

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Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
« Reply #41 on: April 17, 2023, 05:33:36 PM »
So much for Canada having a higher gun homicide rate than the US.

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I didn't say that. I said the murder rate is exactly the fucking same once you compare by race, you dick.

Post a Canadian region that has 500,000 people that is 90%+ White.

Now post an American region that has 500,000 people that is 90%+ White.

Once you do that, you can compare the murder rates.

So go ahead and list one region in each country that has 500K people that is at least 90% White. Go search on Wikipdia if you have to.

Post the regions here.

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Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
« Reply #42 on: April 17, 2023, 05:34:07 PM »
LOL

As usual your math is completely wrong.

Next you'll be arguing that 1 + 1 = 5.


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Math is racist.
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Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
« Reply #43 on: April 17, 2023, 05:34:27 PM »
Are you a fucking moron?

The USA has 45,000 gun deaths, and 30,000 are suicides.

Subtract the suicides, and you have 15,000.

Now take away the 75% which are Black and Hispanic, and you have 11,250 non-White shooting deaths.

That leaves 3,750.

Now adjust for the fact that the USA is 10x the size, and that number is equivalent to 375 shooting deaths in Canada.

And we end up with a figure that is slightly higher for the USA, but not much different.

Here's a test for you, ChOAK:

Post a Canadian region that has 500,000 people that is 90%+ White.

Now post an American region that has 500,000 people that is 90%+ White.

Once you do that, you can compare the murder rates.

So go ahead and list one region in each country that has 500K people that is at least 90% White. Go search on Wikipdia if you have to.

Post the regions here.

Notice how the US has a 20,000% HIGHER firearm homicide rate than Japan.

Which country has more "white people" Matt?

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« Reply #44 on: April 17, 2023, 05:36:51 PM »

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« Reply #45 on: April 17, 2023, 07:33:04 PM »
Notice how the US has a 20,000% HIGHER firearm homicide rate than Japan.

Which country has more "white people" Matt?

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Asians also have extremely low rates of violence in Western societies, OAK!

Glad to see you are catching on to the racial disparities in violent crime.  8)

PS - now compare Japanese people to Japanese Americans!

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Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
« Reply #47 on: April 17, 2023, 07:37:13 PM »
OAK,

What cities have the top three highest murder rates per-capita in the USA?

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Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
« Reply #48 on: April 17, 2023, 08:20:33 PM »
Asians also have extremely low rates of violence in Western societies, OAK!

Glad to see you are catching on to the racial disparities in violent crime.  8)

PS - now compare Japanese people to Japanese Americans!

You’re pivoting.

How do racial disparities provide evidence AGAINST gun control?

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Re: Alabama Mass Shooting. 🙁
« Reply #49 on: April 17, 2023, 08:44:23 PM »
Weird.

I thought guns were supposed to keep children SAFE.

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I see you’re back from another ass beating. Funny how that happened just 113mi from the NRA convention where most we’re carrying including myself and nothing happened 🤔

Here’s some children…

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