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Re: as you get older and gain perspective, BB becomes really comical
« Reply #50 on: May 04, 2023, 01:42:57 PM »
he was fatter than most men in the 1930s

I agree. I wasn't around in the 1930's (surprise, surprise) but in looking at old photographs folks were leaner. Much leaner than they are today. Approximately 10 percent of U.S. adults were classified as having obesity during the 1950s. In 2011 to 2012, however, the CDC reported approximately 35 percent of U.S. adults had obesity; the prevalence of obesity among American adults has more than tripled within the last six decades.

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Re: as you get older and gain perspective, BB becomes really comical
« Reply #51 on: May 04, 2023, 02:36:04 PM »
Seeing people in the gym carrying around Tupperware Eating chicken and rice, drinking protein constantly is ridiculous haha, staying in good shape, eating what you want in moderation is key, competitive bbing is a laughing stock imo.

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Re: as you get older and gain perspective, BB becomes really comical
« Reply #52 on: May 04, 2023, 02:38:33 PM »
Seeing people in the gym carrying around Tupperware Eating chicken and rice, drinking protein constantly is ridiculous haha, staying in good shape, eating what you want in moderation is key, competitive bbing is a laughing stock imo.
Not to mention those people are doing their health a diservice  by eating such a non varried and nutritionally poor diet mixed with occasional binging on fast food

Truly shit

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Re: as you get older and gain perspective, BB becomes really comical
« Reply #53 on: May 05, 2023, 05:49:59 AM »

not at all, bb is the worst of the "barbell sports," you'd get much more out of CrossFit, strongman, weightlifting. something with both conditioning and hypertrophy

Wrong on so many levels, actually a pretty foolish statement.

“Bodybuilding” aka resistance training is so much safer than CrossFit or strongman training there is no comparison. If you eliminate the dieting and dehydration for the beauty pageant, the actual style of lifting for hypertrophic effects is something that can be done by people of almost any age (the elderly) and can be done with numerous physical disabilities.

Training a large muscle group for hypertrophy results in an increased caloric burn lasting 72 hours or longer. Cardio can do that, but only early in your training until your body adapts and then the caloric use becomes more centered on the actual time of exercise, and within just a short time of stepping off the treadmill ect, you return to baseline rapidly. Increasing the difficulty becomes difficult quickly and you will be doing marathon length sessions to match the impact of a short session pretty rapidly.

So the problem is increasing the difficulty to challenge your body as you adapt. CrossFit is even worse and the workouts get insane within a short period of time if you wish to have similar results to your earlier training.

Weightlifting is very easy to increase your workout difficulty and challenge your body. You can increase the weight slightly, decrease your rest periods, or do more reps. You can use machines very safely. A 72 year old with a fused spine can train legs (or almost any body part) on machines. And can keep improving and moving up safely.

Every time you train your muscles and get them to trigger an adaptive response, you greatly increase your metabolism for an extended period, as stated 72 hours or more while you recover. As you increase your lean tissue your baseline caloric use increases as well. Combine this with the proven bone density increases and it is a fantastic way for almost anyone to exercise and improve their body composition. You also get cardiovascular benefits if you train with vigor, not as much as a true cardio workout but for some people that is perfect.

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Re: as you get older and gain perspective, BB becomes really comical
« Reply #54 on: May 05, 2023, 06:30:10 AM »
Wrong on so many levels, actually a pretty foolish statement.

“Bodybuilding” aka resistance training is so much safer than CrossFit or strongman training there is no comparison. If you eliminate the dieting and dehydration for the beauty pageant, the actual style of lifting for hypertrophic effects is something that can be done by people of almost any age (the elderly) and can be done with numerous physical disabilities.

Training a large muscle group for hypertrophy results in an increased caloric burn lasting 72 hours or longer. Cardio can do that, but only early in your training until your body adapts and then the caloric use becomes more centered on the actual time of exercise, and within just a short time of stepping off the treadmill ect, you return to baseline rapidly. Increasing the difficulty becomes difficult quickly and you will be doing marathon length sessions to match the impact of a short session pretty rapidly.

So the problem is increasing the difficulty to challenge your body as you adapt. CrossFit is even worse and the workouts get insane within a short period of time if you wish to have similar results to your earlier training.

Weightlifting is very easy to increase your workout difficulty and challenge your body. You can increase the weight slightly, decrease your rest periods, or do more reps. You can use machines very safely. A 72 year old with a fused spine can train legs (or almost any body part) on machines. And can keep improving and moving up safely.

Every time you train your muscles and get them to trigger an adaptive response, you greatly increase your metabolism for an extended period, as stated 72 hours or more while you recover. As you increase your lean tissue your baseline caloric use increases as well. Combine this with the proven bone density increases and it is a fantastic way for almost anyone to exercise and improve their body composition. You also get cardiovascular benefits if you train with vigor, not as much as a true cardio workout but for some people that is perfect.


what's dangerous about strongman style training? im not talking wsm training, i'm talking picking shit up from the ground, carrying something, tossing it over your shoulder. naturals human movements

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Re: as you get older and gain perspective, BB becomes really comical
« Reply #55 on: May 05, 2023, 09:19:00 AM »
Never Argue With a Fool, Onlookers May Not Be Able To Tell the Difference.

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Re: as you get older and gain perspective, BB becomes really comical
« Reply #56 on: May 05, 2023, 09:20:39 AM »
I agree. I wasn't around in the 1930's (surprise, surprise) but in looking at old photographs folks were leaner. Much leaner than they are today. Approximately 10 percent of U.S. adults were classified as having obesity during the 1950s. In 2011 to 2012, however, the CDC reported approximately 35 percent of U.S. adults had obesity; the prevalence of obesity among American adults has more than tripled within the last six decades.
Go look at photos from Woodstock and count the fat people.

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Re: as you get older and gain perspective, BB becomes really comical
« Reply #57 on: May 05, 2023, 09:28:12 AM »
I enjoy bodybuilding , the diet helps anxiety

but I had a year where I got into psychedelics and DMT very deeply - totally destroyed my ego and my aspect on bb; ing


I have no desire anymore to impress a judge or anyone else for that matter - makes me feel good and its what I have always done

but competing is another thing - the other thing that  I find comical is how all these young kids like to hit impromptu poses in the gym now - they look like fckn idiots

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Re: as you get older and gain perspective, BB becomes really comical
« Reply #58 on: May 05, 2023, 09:37:23 AM »

what's dangerous about strongman style training? im not talking wsm training, i'm talking picking shit up from the ground, carrying something, tossing it over your shoulder. naturals human movements

You should get a moving job. You can do this and get paid as well

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Re: as you get older and gain perspective, BB becomes really comical
« Reply #59 on: May 05, 2023, 09:44:19 AM »

what's dangerous about strongman style training? im not talking wsm training, i'm talking picking shit up from the ground, carrying something, tossing it over your shoulder. naturals human movements

Heavy weights and awkward angles while moving at the same time?

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Re: as you get older and gain perspective, BB becomes really comical
« Reply #60 on: May 05, 2023, 09:51:08 AM »
Heavy weights and awkward angles while moving at the same time?


no one is taking heavy weights, again not training for the world strongest man. you can train strongman style with moderate weights. what awkward angle? most carry events are on the sagittal plane. you pick something up and walk forward to a destination, not a lot of quick cuts in strongman. and yeah you should be working all the planes, that's where life exists.


 there's next to no rotational bb movements, are they even any?

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Re: as you get older and gain perspective, BB becomes really comical
« Reply #61 on: May 05, 2023, 12:36:11 PM »
Seeing people in the gym carrying around Tupperware Eating chicken and rice, drinking protein constantly is ridiculous haha, staying in good shape, eating what you want in moderation is key, competitive bbing is a laughing stock imo.

Chicken and rice lol. Most Bbs are dumb as a rock, no wonder they swear by the least nutrient dense meals. Not to mention oatmeal and peanut butter which are complete garbage foods for humans

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Re: as you get older and gain perspective, BB becomes really comical
« Reply #62 on: May 06, 2023, 10:15:32 AM »
Thread full of quitters!