NO BULLSHIT TRAINING THREAD..........JUST TRAINING !

[Gym Rat]

Tri's, Delts, Pecs all look good here...

[Grape Ape]

Flat barbell bench to throat

I separated a shoulder doing this exercise way back when.

High risk / little reward, IMO.

[wes]

I separated a shoulder doing this exercise way back when.

High risk / little reward, IMO.

I used to do declines to the neck per Vince Gironda........they do stress the pecs hard, but lighter weight and  reps of 12-15 should be used as they will fuck your shoulders up bigtime......12 reps is good for building most guys pecs anyway except they always want to max out every Monday. 

If you mimic the motion without weight you can see that they stretch the pecs nicely with elbows back......most guys load up a bar and bang it off their ribcage/diaphragm area which does jackshit for building pecs but a lot for building ones ego.

[Krankenstein]

I used to do declines to the neck per Vince Gironda........they do stress the pecs hard, but lighter weight and  reps of 12-15 should be used as they will fuck your shoulders up bigtime......12 reps is good for building most guys pecs anyway except they always want to max out every Monday. 

If you mimic the motion without weight you can see that they stretch the pecs nicely with elbows back......most guys load up a bar and bang it off their ribcage/diaphragm area which does jackshit for building pecs but a lot for building ones ego.

to the neck?   bro science bullshit IMO.  Most don't have the shoulder mobility, but more importantly where the pic attaches to the humerus, you're not getting any added benefit going to the lower part of your pecs with the bar.

[dj181]

Traps are important. Just think how much easier it would have been for you to supposedly kiss that whores back at the sex club if the guy you used for a dickshelf had developed traps for you to hold onto!

Hahahah

I did kiss and grope a chicks back and ass no dick shelving

This short ugly fat toady Asian was next to me trying to get her to suck his micro cock but she was having none of it

She had a flat flabby ass and she was 19-20 but I was desperate so I groped her flat ass and kissed her again dick shelving 😂😂😂

[Grape Ape]

Krank, that's my thinking.

I was stupid - smith machine, two plates a side, just cranking it out.

Then, crunch.

Best part was, I was a year out of college, no $, so a chiropractor at the gym said he would help me.

Diagnosed me with a pec tear LOL.

I paid him $70 for what I think was a bottle of a calcium supplement and didn't train for about 5 months.

[dj181]

I separated a shoulder doing this exercise way back when.

High risk / little reward, IMO.

I came back for a double and just did it again on the decline press and I am stronger on it

Strange shit because doing on the decline makes the total movement path even longer...

I'm doing very high reps on it 25-30

The big Jew dyke isrealtel says up to 30 reps works for hypertrophy

[wes]

to the neck?   bro science bullshit IMO.  Most don't have the shoulder mobility, but more importantly where the pic attaches to the humerus, you're not getting any added benefit going to the lower part of your pecs with the bar.

Tell that to Vince.........some of his shit was great,others,not so much! 

I used them here and there and abandoned them as they did stress my shoulders even with light to moderate weight.

[Grape Ape]

I came back for a double and just did it again on the decline press and I am stronger on it

Strange shit because doing on the decline makes the total movement path even longer...

I'm doing very high reps on it 25-30

The big Jew dyke isrealtel says up to 30 reps works for hypertrophy

No idea who the person in the last sentence is, by Krank is a bona fide expert and you should listen to him.

[dj181]

No idea who the person in the last sentence is, by Krank is a bona fide expert and you should listen to him.

@ 27:00

he's a bully though

bullied greg douchette

dont like greg but i have bullies WITH A FUCKING PASSION

i cant kick his ass so.... best just blast a cap in his blouder head

[Grape Ape]

@ 27:00

he's a bully though

bullied greg douchette

dont like greg but i have bullies WITH A FUCKING PASSION

i cant kick his so.... best just blast a cap in his blouder head

You couldn't pay me to watch 27 seconds of that, let alone 27 min.

[dj181]

You couldn't pay me to watch 27 seconds of that, let alone 27 min.

that's cool

you're choice bro

and i'm not saying your wrong not to watch it or that you have to watch it

live and let live ma man

so watched it in full

he says 10-20 is the best range for hyperthropy

so maybe i should do sets of 15-20 instead of 25-30 on it

hmmmmm

it's definately not a move for 5-10 reps

[robcguns]

I came back for a double and just did it again on the decline press and I am stronger on it

Strange shit because doing on the decline makes the total movement path even longer...

I'm doing very high reps on it 25-30

The big Jew dyke isrealtel says up to 30 reps works for hypertrophy

Any rep range works for muscle growth I don’t care what anyone says. Sets of 5,15,25,50,100 etc… all work if training hard. Stop reading so much. You know what to do. Go by feel and the muscle will grow.

[Grape Ape]

that's cool

you're choice bro

and i'm not saying your wrong not to watch it or that you have to watch it

live and let live ma man

so watched it in full

he says 10-20 is the best range for hyperthropy

so maybe i should do sets of 15-20 instead of 25-30 on it

hmmmmm

it's definately not a move for 5-10 reps

Do you really need advice on rep ranges at this point?  People have been saying 10-20 for hypertrophy since wes lifted his first rock.

I don't think it matters much anyway, mostly genetic....just work hard.

[dj181]

Any rep range works for muscle growth I don’t care what anyone says. Sets of 5,15,25,50,100 etc… all work if training hard. Stop reading so much. You know what to do. Go by feel and the muscle will grow.

yep training to failure is the key

but with that move decline bench to throat it's not too wise to do less than 10 reps to failure

my tris were crushed no str power so i will go to hits tris every 4 days

gonna see if i can work pecs every 2 days

i can work delts every 2 days they recover VERY QUICKLY

what a sweetie song makes me think of maybe being just more than friends with my new female friend but if i do this i'll have to give up the swing clubs

i knew 3 shitheads in poland who had gf and lied to them bout being faithful as they pounded out other females true fucking assholes they were

i'm a douche but i'm not that big of a fucking asshole

see the resemblence of me and this wild horse? we have the same firece and peircing eyes

[dj181]

Do you really need advice on rep ranges at this point?  People have been saying 10-20 for hypertrophy since wes lifted his first rock.

I don't think it matters much anyway, mostly genetic....just work hard.

keys are training to failure and even beyond and making steadt progress ie. more weight lifted or more reps or both

[Grape Ape]

keys are training to failure and even beyond and making steadt progress ie. more weight lifted or more reps or both

That's debatable as well - does Jeff train to failure all the time?  Krank?  Wes?  SC?

Does some magic chemical get released at failure, as opposed to one rep before?

[dj181]

i watch so many vids coz i want to learn the best way

there's lots of good info out there

AJ was wrong it's not 95% of what it said or written is bs it's more like 70%

[Grape Ape]

i watch so many vids coz i want to learn the best way

there's lots of good info out there

AJ was wrong it's not 95% of what it said or written is bs it's more like 70%

That's fine, not judging that.

But, really, what happens going to failure that doesn't happen stopping one rep prior, or half a rep prior...etc?

Do the jacked gymnasts train to failure?

[dj181]

That's debatable as well - does Jeff train to failure all the time?  Krank?  Wes?  SC?

Does some magic chemical get released at failure, as opposed to one rep before?

depends on the person i guess

i have to train til failure if i dont i get ZERO RESULTS

by the way, the big jew talks bout reps in reserve shit dont work for me

also jordan peters said that shit made him regress and he lost str and size

FUCK DAT SHIT

[Grape Ape]

depends on the person i guess

i have to train til failure if i dont i get ZERO RESULTS

by the way, the big jew talks bout reps in reserve shit dont work for me

also jordan peters said that shit made him regress and he lost str and size

FUCK DAT SHIT

ding ding ding

no idea who jordan peters is though

[dj181]

ding ding ding

no idea who jordan peters is though

7 bill dead strong as shit

physique is ugly as fuck though

[Hulkotron]

I can think of several getbiggers who I wish would try more heavy bench presses lowered to the throat.

[Grape Ape]

7 bill dead strong as shit

If I need advice on DLs, would just ask chaos.

Bodybuilding: wes, krank, coach, jeff

Conditioning: krank, coach, SC, (he changed the way I train)

Point is - we have experts here, don't need any of these YT fools

[dj181]

I can think of several getbiggers who I wish would try more heavy bench presses lowered to the throat.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA