Are pro bodybuilders actually poor/low-income?

[Never1AShow]

Majority do online coaching, let's say on average they have 40 clients (which is very low) and they charge $300 a month (which is low, average is $300-500) from that alone that's $12,000 a month, toss in various other income streams like consultations, sponsorships, appearance fees, seminars, etc... the ones that do coaching do well.

I call BS on 40 people paying $300 a month for online coaching.  No one is paying that, much less 40 people paying that every month, pure BS.

[Humble Narcissist]

I call BS on 40 people paying $300 a month for online coaching.  No one is paying that, much less 40 people paying that every month, pure BS.

I've never met anyone who pays anything for online coaching.

[IroNat]

Some sell t-shirts.

[The Keto Kid]

I call BS on 40 people paying $300 a month for online coaching.  No one is paying that, much less 40 people paying that every month, pure BS.

Lol..what? You obviously aren't involved in this industry whatsoever, anyone who competes know this is average prices for coaching, . Im friends with a few pros who coach and this is absolutely true, the good coaches charge more and have way more clients, John Meadows had over 100 and had to cut it down himself because he couldn't handle that many, Jordan Peters (JP) had over a hundred, guys like Shelby Starnes, there's big money in this you know how many bikini chicks, men's physique guys are out there hire coaches worldwide mind you. It's absolutely true, Coach knows he's in the industry.

[oldtimer1]

Lol..what? You obviously aren't involved in this industry whatsoever, anyone who competes know this is average prices for coaching, . Im friends with a few pros who coach and this is absolutely true, the good coaches charge more and have way more clients, John Meadows had over 100 and had to cut it down himself because he couldn't handle that many, Jordan Peters (JP) had over a hundred, guys like Shelby Starnes, there's big money in this you know how many bikini chicks, men's physique guys are out there hire coaches worldwide mind you. It's absolutely true, Coach knows he's in the industry.

Are they actually coaching or giving steroid advice on quantities and where to obtain? I couldn't imagine an online coach making any serious money giving exercise and diet advice.

[The Keto Kid]

Are they actually coaching or giving steroid advice on quantities and where to obtain? I couldn't imagine an online coach making any serious money giving exercise and diet advice.

What?? They give you your diet, your cycle, Training recommendations obviously how much cardio to be performed, usually once a week check in, then changes are made from there, as show grows closer, check ins may be every few days or even daily, changes are made throughout the prep diet wise, drug wise, training and cardio wise.

[Never1AShow]

Lol..what? You obviously aren't involved in this industry whatsoever, anyone who competes know this is average prices for coaching, . Im friends with a few pros who coach and this is absolutely true, the good coaches charge more and have way more clients, John Meadows had over 100 and had to cut it down himself because he couldn't handle that many, Jordan Peters (JP) had over a hundred, guys like Shelby Starnes, there's big money in this you know how many bikini chicks, men's physique guys are out there hire coaches worldwide mind you. It's absolutely true, Coach knows he's in the industry.

You’re right, I’m not and you may well be right. I admit that and frankly I hope I’m wrong and people are making such huge amounts. But I dont think the math works out and this is more internet influenced bullshit.

100 people is now $30K a month, every month. Maybe somebody’s paid $300 for 3 months but not every month.

How do you know you aren’t just being bullshitted. It’s bodybuilding for cripes sakes.

[The Keto Kid]

You’re right, I’m not and you may well be right. I admit that and frankly I hope I’m wrong and people are making such huge amounts. But I dont think the math works out and this is more internet influenced bullshit.

100 people is now $30K a month, every month. Maybe somebody’s paid $300 for 3 months but not every month.

How do you know you aren’t just being bullshitted. It’s bodybuilding for cripes sakes.

I'm close personal friends with 3 coaches, one who is super well know worldwide the other 2 are known pros and trust me they do VERY well. You have that IFBB pro title by your name and you can charge high monthly rates.

[Humble Narcissist]

What?? They give you your diet, your cycle, Training recommendations obviously how much cardio to be performed, usually once a week check in, then changes are made from there, as show grows closer, check ins may be every few days or even daily, changes are made throughout the prep diet wise, drug wise, training and cardio wise.

I agree with Lee Haney who never used a coach. He said "bodybuilding is your job!" Why wouldn't everyone competing learn how to diet themselves? Training, for real? Are bodybuilders today just too lazy to learn themselves?

[Flexacon]

I'm close personal friends with 3 coaches, one who is super well know worldwide the other 2 are known pros and trust me they do VERY well. You have that IFBB pro title by your name and you can charge high monthly rates.

They give out something like 1,000 pro cards a year now and have done so for several years and your sample size is 3 pros you know?

No one is hiring Rajesh Kumar Chakrabti IFBB pro from Uttar Pradesh for online coaching at $300/month

[GymnJuice]

Trainers are necessary. Bodybuilders need help counting the reps. Some bodybuilders have trouble counting on their own even when they watch themselves on video afterwards.

[Humble Narcissist]

Trainers are necessary. Bodybuilders need help counting the reps. Some bodybuilders have trouble counting on their own even when they watch themselves on video afterwards.

Good point. I never considered that.

[ProudVirgin69]

I call BS on 40 people paying $300 a month for online coaching.  No one is paying that, much less 40 people paying that every month, pure BS.

If you have 40,000 followers (which isn’t that much, really) is it that hard to believe that 1/1000 would pay $300 to get “coaching”?  These people get followers from all across the world and some people feel important  knowing that their training/diet is being done by an IFBB pro—even if they look totally untrained. 

[ProudVirgin69]

A lot of them do muscle worship and escorting.

I feel like we don’t hear about that much these days.  Maybe getbig just isn’t as good about reporting it anymore 

I think some still do it early on when trying to make ends meet , like Nick Trigilli or whomever people say has a small c0ck, PJ Braun also comes to mind.  Maybe they’re just better about concealing their “activities” these days.

Aaron Clark is the last ifbb pro I remember hearing who did gay shit

[Flexacon]

Aaron Clark is the last ifbb pro I remember hearing who did gay shit

What did he do? (no homo)

He had a lot of supportive supplement companies and a gf taking care of him during his issues. Don't remember hearing anything about gay for pay.

[_bruce_]

Some of them make good money and if they had a less pricey life style they would be set for life after some years.
"Big Bad Wolf" made the best deal by marrying a well off "mom"... figuratively dipped his benis in gold.

[ProudVirgin69]

What did he do? (no homo)

He had a lot of supportive supplement companies and a gf taking care of him during his issues. Don't remember hearing anything about gay for pay.

I think it was private cam shows but I can’t find anything about it so maybe just a rumor.  He started posting on t-nation board around the same time as me and some other people around the same age and we all had a loose online community and I remember that was one thing that got mentioned as part of the high price he had to pay to be a pro bodybuilder.  Unsurprisingly his drug stack was staggering, with adderall/weed/xanax/viagra to manage the side effects

I can’t find anything besides this though so feel free to chalk it up as untrue

[ProudVirgin69]

Some of them make good money and if they had a less pricey life style they would be set for life after some years.
"Big Bad Wolf" made the best deal by marrying a well off "mom"... figuratively dipped his benis in gold.

It’s pretty funny that Dennis wolf’s wife married some rich guy, divorced him and took half his money, and now Dennis uses it to stuff his face with mass amounts of chicken breast

[BB]

I think Onlyfans, Snapchat, and a few other services syphoned off the Bodybuilding to G4P market. A lot of huge muscle guys are still doing schmoe business, but don't bother with going the bodybuilding route anymore. Right to OnlyFans, and then the Onlyfans stuff is paywalled, so it takes longer to get out.