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Re: Long-Term TRT – Safe and Healthy?
« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2023, 06:18:15 PM »
combined with quarterly venesections yes.

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Re: Long-Term TRT – Safe and Healthy?
« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2023, 07:09:54 PM »
No being dehydrated caused his issue nothing to do with TRT also amazing how everyone just assumes I am on multiple grams of T lol

It’s not assuming.you have admitted it on here and other forums.

Your TRT is 500 mg a week it’s subjective so it’s considered TRT in your book

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Re: Long-Term TRT – Safe and Healthy?
« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2023, 07:55:48 PM »
My best friend is an Endocrinologist, has like 7 degrees in medicine.

He's considered an expert in his field and works at State level legislation to speak about TRT and other hormone alterations.

For 10 years i gave blood every 90 days and took anywhere from 50mg of Test per week to 300mg of Test per week.

My health profiles were almost perfect compared to over 100k case studies.

TRT is fine if you don't have existing conditions.

Any male over 50 would benefit from it.

You just can't use it as an excuse to blast 500mg per week like our local village idiot. Nobody has ever been prescribed 500mg per week by a real Doctor, that's from an anti-aging clinic in Florida.

On 50mg every 4 days my values are absolutely perfect.

But i follow a good diet and exercise regularly. Blood work every 90-120 days.

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Re: Long-Term TRT – Safe and Healthy?
« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2023, 08:31:58 PM »
And we come to the place we always come to in these threads where Bhanky could easily clearly clarify but doesn’t.

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Re: Long-Term TRT – Safe and Healthy?
« Reply #29 on: June 18, 2023, 12:30:31 AM »
Been on Test for at least 7 years. Started with the gel, moved to the pellets and that's where I have been since. For me, approaching 61 this next week, it gives me what I need. It may not be for everyone but it is something I like

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Re: Long-Term TRT – Safe and Healthy?
« Reply #30 on: June 18, 2023, 12:35:56 AM »
Been on Test for at least 7 years. Started with the gel, moved to the pellets and that's where I have been since. For me, approaching 61 this next week, it gives me what I need. It may not be for everyone but it is something I like
What do you think would happen if you quit? Low energy?

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Re: Long-Term TRT – Safe and Healthy?
« Reply #31 on: June 18, 2023, 12:39:50 AM »
What do you think would happen if you quit? Low energy?

My experience..based on extending the treatment a couple of months past my due time due to traveling has been
reduced libido
reduced energy
Mood effected


Could that all be psychological? Absolutely. But it was there

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Re: Long-Term TRT – Safe and Healthy?
« Reply #32 on: June 18, 2023, 12:51:18 AM »
Ben Chow will stay on TRT and stay tiny.
The old guy they used to use in ads, was not on "TRT" (500 to a gram).
Dennis Wolf and company are on real TRT (tiny tits).

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Re: Long-Term TRT – Safe and Healthy?
« Reply #33 on: June 18, 2023, 01:45:01 AM »
Ben Chow will stay on TRT and stay tiny.
The old guy they used to use in ads, was not on "TRT" (500 to a gram).
Dennis Wolf and company are on real TRT (tiny tits).

You think Dennis is "tiny" now?

Almost no one in the instagram fitness space is on TRT. Ben Chow, if you're serious, absolutely not, not even close. He tries to bodybuild even though his kidneys are failing.
If I were to guess, some of these guys try to reduce the androgens and compensate with GH and insulin.

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Re: Long-Term TRT – Safe and Healthy?
« Reply #34 on: June 18, 2023, 05:06:11 AM »
If TRT didn't have positive effects people wouldn't take it.

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Re: Long-Term TRT – Safe and Healthy?
« Reply #35 on: June 18, 2023, 06:15:34 AM »
If TRT didn't have positive effects people wouldn't take it.

You could say the same thing about heroin

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Re: Long-Term TRT – Safe and Healthy?
« Reply #36 on: June 18, 2023, 06:24:09 AM »
is a PSA test part of the regular bloodwork being done?

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Re: Long-Term TRT – Safe and Healthy?
« Reply #37 on: June 18, 2023, 08:13:36 AM »
You could say the same thing about heroin

Heroin is a great anesthetic.

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Re: Long-Term TRT – Safe and Healthy?
« Reply #38 on: June 18, 2023, 11:34:10 AM »
My best friend is an Endocrinologist, has like 7 degrees in medicine.

He's considered an expert in his field and works at State level legislation to speak about TRT and other hormone alterations.

For 10 years i gave blood every 90 days and took anywhere from 50mg of Test per week to 3000mg of Test per week.

My health profiles were almost perfect compared to over 100k case studies.

TRT is fine if you don't have existing conditions.

Any male over 50 would benefit from it.

You just can't use it as an excuse to blast 500mg per week like our local village idiot. Nobody has ever been prescribed 500mg per week by a real Doctor, that's from an anti-aging clinic in Florida.

On 50mg every 4 days my values are absolutely perfect.

But i follow a good diet and exercise regularly. Blood work every 90-120 days.

Do you notice significant size and strength differences on 100mg a week which is essentially 50mg every 4 days?

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Re: Long-Term TRT – Safe and Healthy?
« Reply #39 on: June 18, 2023, 11:41:08 AM »
No being dehydrated caused his issue nothing to do with TRT also amazing how everyone just assumes I am on multiple grams of T lol

Also Amazing everyone on here thinks you're a complete Khvnt, Liar & Retard
why does every one assume that Bianca

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Re: Long-Term TRT – Safe and Healthy?
« Reply #40 on: June 18, 2023, 11:46:39 AM »
Also Amazing everyone on here thinks you're a complete Khvnt, Liar & Retard
why does every one assume that Bianca


Because  most of you are Just a bunch of jealous old slobs by all means prove me wrong you can’t

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Re: Long-Term TRT – Safe and Healthy?
« Reply #41 on: June 18, 2023, 11:55:56 AM »
is a PSA test part of the regular bloodwork being done?


for me it is

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Re: Long-Term TRT – Safe and Healthy?
« Reply #42 on: June 18, 2023, 12:01:49 PM »
Because  most of you are Just a bunch of jealous old slobs by all means prove me wrong you can’t


Ha Ha Ha  Jealous of you - Clearly you're on drugs & your self grander
Delusion is running very high.

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Wife Beater, Torn & Atrophied Body, weak Pathetic Faggott Specimen -
OH Yes I'm sure many are so Envious Ha Ha HA

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Re: Long-Term TRT – Safe and Healthy?
« Reply #43 on: June 18, 2023, 12:52:43 PM »
Do you notice significant size and strength differences on 100mg a week which is essentially 50mg every 4 days?

Not at all.

When i had been cycling gear and lifting/eating good for a few years and dropped down to real TRT, i lost quite a bit of size but still looked great.

When i took 3 years off gear and lifting, then got on real TRT i didn't make any exceptional gains, hardly any. It took 6-8 months of consistent training/eating before i looked decent again.

Real TRT is not going to put mass on you, it gives you a small strength boost, more like a stamina boost and you might gain 5 pounds of water.

I've been on 50mg of Test E E4D for over a year and barely workout, more into outdoor biking, mountain climbing and long distance hiking. I look great for my age but nobody is going to accuse me of using steroids. ;D

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Re: Long-Term TRT – Safe and Healthy?
« Reply #44 on: June 18, 2023, 12:54:25 PM »

for me it is

It should be standard, but i have to ask for it sometimes.

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Re: Long-Term TRT – Safe and Healthy?
« Reply #45 on: June 19, 2023, 01:18:08 AM »
Not at all.

When i had been cycling gear and lifting/eating good for a few years and dropped down to real TRT, i lost quite a bit of size but still looked great.

When i took 3 years off gear and lifting, then got on real TRT i didn't make any exceptional gains, hardly any. It took 6-8 months of consistent training/eating before i looked decent again.

Real TRT is not going to put mass on you, it gives you a small strength boost, more like a stamina boost and you might gain 5 pounds of water.

I've been on 50mg of Test E E4D for over a year and barely workout, more into outdoor biking, mountain climbing and long distance hiking. I look great for my age but nobody is going to accuse me of using steroids. ;D
Most on TRT are on it for energy and sex, not bodybuilding.

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Re: Long-Term TRT – Safe and Healthy?
« Reply #46 on: June 19, 2023, 07:04:42 AM »
In range TRT doesn't build any muscle or strength (for trained people) it probably does for the lame/untrained.
I gained zero muscle, strength while on "in-range" TRT (.5 cc) (700-800ng total or so) I was at 250 ng before going on, which is low.
Libido is better, waist tightened up a bit. But I also train very hard.

You'd be very surprised if you saw the test levels of 30-tr olds these days, very pathetic and low. 
Tons of people dont need it, but then its not real TRT, its cycling.

I  know youre anti-TRT, but if youve never used it, I think its hard to talk facts.
That’s why you do trt+ stay in that 1000-1300 range.

Bench

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Re: Long-Term TRT – Safe and Healthy?
« Reply #47 on: June 19, 2023, 07:29:26 AM »
In range TRT doesn't build any muscle or strength (for trained people) it probably does for the lame/untrained.
I gained zero muscle, strength while on "in-range" TRT (.5 cc) (700-800ng total or so) I was at 250 ng before going on, which is low.
Libido is better, waist tightened up a bit. But I also train very hard.

You'd be very surprised if you saw the test levels of 30-tr olds these days, very pathetic and low. 
Tons of people dont need it, but then its not real TRT, its cycling.

I  know youre anti-TRT, but if youve never used it, I think its hard to talk facts.

.5cc  once a week or once a month?

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Re: Long-Term TRT – Safe and Healthy?
« Reply #48 on: June 19, 2023, 10:28:13 AM »
In range TRT doesn't build any muscle or strength (for trained people) it probably does for the lame/untrained.
I gained zero muscle, strength while on "in-range" TRT (.5 cc) (700-800ng total or so) I was at 250 ng before going on, which is low.
Libido is better, waist tightened up a bit. But I also train very hard.

You'd be very surprised if you saw the test levels of 30-tr olds these days, very pathetic and low. 
Tons of people dont need it, but then its not real TRT, its cycling.

I  know youre anti-TRT, but if youve never used it, I think its hard to talk facts.

So, if you stopped your TRT you would still be just as strong as you are now on TRT, even though your test level would go from 700-800 down to 250?

Your ability to train hard and recover would not change?

That is interesting but seems to defy logic.


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Re: Long-Term TRT – Safe and Healthy?
« Reply #49 on: June 19, 2023, 02:56:53 PM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/taking-testosterone-doesn-t-increase-heart-disease-risk-why-researchers-are-still-wary/ar-AA1cDtNW?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=322d166c59574625b60f202b371f2cc2&ei=115

Been on for 15yrs and 0 problems. Scared of Test and want to be an estrogen soaked middle aged guy , go for it. I have a better physique than the majority of guys in my gym in their 20's and 30's and I'm 52. 8)
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