Long-Term TRT – Safe and Healthy?

[pamith]

I would never do it, natty 4 life

[wes]

I always use a 23 G.

[robcguns]

I would never do it, natty 4 life

Fuck off pamith.

[LurkerNoMore]

I have been on a low dose TRT for decades now with no ill side effects. Currently taking between .75 and 1ml a week per doctor's orders.  For a geezer turning 79 years in a couple of months, I am incredibly (physically) healthy. Did labs for an upcoming physical and everything is right where it should be which means it is well within range. Obviously, I am not needle-phobic after all this time of sticking a 22g into muscle tissue... currently upper thighs because contortions aren't needed like when I pinned my glutes.

If you don't mind me asking what is your test numbers as reflected on your labs?  Do they measure free test as well?

[njflex]

Fuck off pamith.

BRO...

[Van_Bilderass]

I have been on a low dose TRT for decades now with no ill side effects. Currently taking between .75 and 1ml a week per doctor's orders.  For a geezer turning 79 years in a couple of months, I am incredibly (physically) healthy. Did labs for an upcoming physical and everything is right where it should be which means it is well within range. Obviously, I am not needle-phobic after all this time of sticking a 22g into muscle tissue... currently upper thighs because contortions aren't needed like when I pinned my glutes.

Upper thighs are the easiest to hit. Though I frequently jump up a bit as the needle hits a nerve.

For some reason many very experienced guys warn against thigh injections. Remember gh15 also said never to do thighs, gear goes in the glutes and delts.

Using an insulin pin to inject steroids is great, if you're using an insulin syringe. Otherwise it's hard work/impossible imo. If I inject with an insulin syringe I can only fit 1ml in there so no good for bb doses.

[pamith]

Fuck off pamith.

Bro...

[robcguns]

Upper thighs are the easiest to hit. Though I frequently jump up a bit as the needle hits a nerve.

For some reason many very experienced guys warn against thigh injections. Remember gh15 also said never to do thighs, gear goes in the glutes and delts.

Using an insulin pin to inject steroids is great, if you're using an insulin syringe. Otherwise it's hard work/impossible imo. If I inject with an insulin syringe I can only fit 1ml in there so no good for bb doses.

For me it was always triceps that were the easiest. Went in like butter. I hated thighs and glutes and shoulders.

[bhank]

I never pin the upper body if you have an issue you want it somewhere it can not be seen. Always pin large muscles glutes or quads only

[Krankenstein]

I never pin the upper body if you have an issue you want it somewhere it can not be seen. Always pin large muscles glutes or quads only

So where do you pin seeing as neither of those two are large muscles on you?

[38 returns]

So where do you pin seeing as neither of those two are large muscles on you?

Brian normally takes a prick up the arse

[38 returns]

I never pin the upper body if you have an issue you want it somewhere it can not be seen. Always pin large muscles glutes or quads only

'large muscles'


haha talk me through that champ

[robcguns]

Bro...

FUCK OFF PAMITH.

[Krankenstein]

FUCK OFF PAMITH.

x2

[Van_Bilderass]

For me it was always triceps that were the easiest. Went in like butter. I hated thighs and glutes and shoulders.

You're still reaching over the body, somewhat uncomfortable, and if doing several mls at least I tire in my fingers. I like to use my palm to press through smaller gauge needles. But people have their favorites, someone else might put everthing in his traps or upper chest or whatever but those are pretty uncommon.

[illuminati]

Fuck off pamith.

x3

[benchmstr]

I pin everywhere..with 27 gauge insulin needs..do NOT pin my glutes though..arms are too short

Bench

[LurkerNoMore]

I think a big problem most people have when going on TRT (or reducing their current cycles to TRT level amounts) is after they get the initial benefits they are thinking 'I'm on the juice' (well  yeah, but...) and start training harder than they can recover.  Which is why they see little to no gains. 

If your numbers are in the 1200 range, you should be able to maintain a solid built look to you.  Not competition standards, but one that indicates you are above average in build and fitness.

[Van_Bilderass]

I think a big problem most people have when going on TRT (or reducing their current cycles to TRT level amounts) is after they get the initial benefits they are thinking 'I'm on the juice' (well  yeah, but...) and start training harder than they can recover.  Which is why they see little to no gains. 

If your numbers are in the 1200 range, you should be able to maintain a solid built look to you.  Not competition standards, but one that indicates you are above average in build and fitness.

Maybe. But at the same time IMO very few people train really hard. They may be in the gym too many days a week and such which is counterproductive.

I've said that IMO steroids often make you tolerate LESS volume strangely. Some have agreed but not many. Seen it a bunch of times.

[benchmstr]

Maybe. But at the same time IMO very few people train really hard. They may be in the gym too many days a week and such which is counterproductive.

I've said that IMO steroids often make you tolerate LESS volume strangely. Some have agreed but not many. Seen it a bunch of times.

I run and swim everyday along with lifting..I can say that my volume as far as lifting goes has not been affected..but the higher the dose, the slower I run and swim..I can still do the long distance stuff..but it takes me dramatically longer. I have friends who completely lose volume and live off of intensity the higher test goes.

Now, if I do 200mg test and 600mg equipoise? Different story! Really the only things that kill volume and cardio for me and the people I’m close to are GH and test itself…when in higher doses.

As long as I stay in the 180-250mg/week range I make gains in running, swimming, and lifting.

[robcguns]

My buddy has been on 100mgs of trt weekly at 50mgs every 3.5 days. And he has gotten jakkked. He went from 185 at 5’10 to 215 in 5 months. Much more vascular, leaner,bigger looks like he did when he was taking 250mgs of test a week 20 years ago. He got huge off 250 and he got huge off 100, he is 42 and eats clean but alot and trains prob 6 days a week. He would never do anything besides test cause he’s afraid and always has been. His blood work shows his test at 24 hours at 1050 and at 72 hours at 675ish. E2 is around 40. He says he feels great and is hard all the time.

Know another guy on 150 a week at 50 and he’s jacked as fuck too.

[AbrahamG]

Lmfao at "hard all the time".

[robcguns]

Lmfao at "hard all the time".

Hahaha he is, my wife is good friends with his wife and she says he’s insatiable. And she does his shots for him and says it .25cc twice a week. So I guess for what everyone here is saying he’s just a great responder.

[benchmstr]

Hahaha he is, my wife is good friends with his wife and she says he’s insatiable. And she does his shots for him and says it .25cc twice a week. So I guess for what everyone here is saying he’s just a great responder.

At 180mg of test a week I stay at close to 1300..people don’t realize how much it gives you.

Bench

[TheGrinch]

Problem with TRT is once you start you also start needing to take a ton of other things to help regulate the other now out of whack hormones the TRT creates...

but at least Test is normalized..lol