Dave completely wins the argument and Chick is just bitter because he has to MC these shows to make any kind of income, while Dave sits at home making money through various revenue streams (his Species supplements, contest prep/coaching, his youtube, secrets to being a contest prep guru course, plus he sells/breeds snakes) people bag on Palumbo but he's smart, he found his niche in the industry and became extremely successful despite never getting pro status. Chick is just jealous.