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Hunter charges with federal crimes
« on: June 20, 2023, 10:01:39 AM »
Oh no.....  what will Trumpturds do now about whining how Hunter is protected from the system?

Yeah, he struck a deal that pretty much says no jail time.

Will Trumpturds cry more or less now?

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Re: Hunter charges with federal crimes
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2023, 10:10:45 AM »
Oh no.....  what will Trumpturds do now about whining how Hunter is protected from the system?

Yeah, he struck a deal that pretty much says no jail time.

Will Trumpturds cry more or less now?

Why not ask Agnostic what the penalty is for the average person lying on a federal firearms application, getting the gun and then tossing into a dumpster

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Re: Hunter charges with federal crimes
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2023, 10:44:45 AM »

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Re: Hunter charges with federal crimes
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2023, 11:49:07 AM »
Why not ask Agnostic what the penalty is for the average person lying on a federal firearms application, getting the gun and then tossing into a dumpster

Being a detective (and possessing simple common sense) he would know more about it than you.

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Re: Hunter charges with federal crimes
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2023, 12:02:20 PM »
Why not ask Agnostic what the penalty is for the average person lying on a federal firearms application, getting the gun and then tossing into a dumpster

Is not Agnostic a detective? Are police detectives usually involved in solving or pursuing these types of cases? If you know someone in the FBI or a tax attorney, they would be a better source.

The bad news is that the penalty can be as harsh as 10 years in prison. Lying about drug use is 5 years. According to what I read more than half the cases were filed. In the 2019 fiscal year, when Hunter Biden purchased his gun, federal prosecutors received 478 referrals for lying on Form 4473 — and filed just 298 cases, according to data extracted from the U.S. attorneys' case management system. Very few are prosecuted. Do folks who falsely fill out this form face much risk of prosecution. The answer? They don't. A 1990 Justice Department study noted how difficult it was to bring cases against people who falsely answer questions on the form, especially because there is no paper trail for drug abusers like there is for felons.

These statistics are relevant as Congress discusses how to strengthen gun laws after high-profile mass shootings. They are a prime illustration of how existing laws are not always rigorously or consistently enforced. Broadly popular measures like background checks are not as appealing to some Republican voters as they are to Democratic voters. Interestingly, it is Republicans who tend to resist proposals such as the one for universal background checks for gun buyers. This is evidenced on Getbig, whenever the subject of gun control is broached. Where do you stand on gun control, Coach?

When someone has firearms or ammunition that they wish to get rid of, they are supposed to report it to local law enforcement and either drop it off at their police station or wait for an officer to come by their location and take care of it. If a firearm is disposed of in another way, one could be charged with criminal disposal of a firearm. A person can be charged with unlawful disposition of a firearm even by throwing a found firearm away. Good thing that he didn't illegally try to sell the gun because the penalty for this can put you away for 5- 10 years depending on whether it is a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd degree charge.

The IRS is known for picking high profile tax fraud cases to pursue. Hunter Biden fits that profile. Filing late is not a big deal. They usually result in a fine. Too bad Hunter didn't file for an extension. Penalties for filing late can mount up at a rate of 5% of the amount of tax due for each month that you're late. If you're more than 60 days late, the minimum penalty is $100 or 100% of the tax due with the return, whichever is less. Filing for the extension wipes out the penalty file by the extension deadline. I personally know someone who didn’t file his taxes for 5 years. When the IRS decided to do something about it, he was not penalized. He had to pay what was due and they allowed him to pay what he owed on an installment plan.






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Re: Hunter charges with federal crimes
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2023, 12:18:20 PM »
Thanks for that. Along with lying on the 4473 from the FFL, he later threw the same gun in a dumpster. Thanks for the info though

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Re: Hunter charges with federal crimes
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2023, 12:32:37 PM »
Thanks for that. Along with lying on the 4473 from the FFL, he later through the same gun in a dumpster. Thanks for the info though

I believe I covered this when citing the laws regarding gun disposal (disposition).

From my point of view him lying on application 4473 and illegally disposing (threw it in a dumpster), of a gun is far more serious than filing his taxes late. I think I made that pretty clear. To be fair, I should admit that I am for stricter gun control laws... but than, I am a liberal, so there is that.  ;D

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Re: Hunter charges with federal crimes
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2023, 12:42:13 PM »
I believe I covered this when citing the laws regarding gun disposal (disposition).

From my point of view him lying on application 4473 and illegally disposing (threw it in a dumpster), of a gun is far more serious than filing his taxes late. I think I made that pretty clear. To be fair, I should admit that I am for stricter gun control laws... but than, I am a liberal, so there is that.  ;D

I couldn’t care less about the two years of taxes, on that point it’s a much bigger picture than the two years he admitted to purposely not paying. This will eventually snowball into the $10million bribery once all of the details are out. Since there is no justice system for the ruling class, the court of public opinion will judge.

If you or I lied on that 4473 and threw a gun in dumpster, we would be in prison especially if the trial were held in Democrat stronghold

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Re: Hunter charges with federal crimes
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2023, 01:07:21 PM »
I couldn’t care less about the two years of taxes, on that point it’s a much bigger picture than the two years he admitted to purposely not paying. This will eventually snowball into the $10million bribery once all of the details are out. Since there is no justice system for the ruling class, the court of public opinion will judge.

If you or I lied on that 4473 and threw a gun in dumpster, we would be in prison especially if the trial were held in Democrat stronghold

I am not worried about going to prison because I never lied on a 4473 or threw a gun in a dumpster. Maybe this is because I never owned a gun and likely never will. Also, I am not worried about the IRS coming after me because I file my taxes and pay them on time every year. I have on occasion Jay-walked and my excuse is that I should be allowed since my name is Jay (yeah, I would still get a ticket if caught doing it). LOL!

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Re: Hunter charges with federal crimes
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2023, 03:20:29 PM »
Oh no.....  what will Trumpturds do now about whining how Hunter is protected from the system?

Yeah, he struck a deal that pretty much says no jail time.

Will Trumpturds cry more or less now?

Written like a child, low IQ dumb bitch forgets this is not his usual grooming site  ::)
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Re: Hunter charges with federal crimes
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2023, 03:54:09 PM »
You know... if Trumpy had pled guilty  or chooses to plead guilty he would have gotten / will get a far lighter sentence than what may be waiting him as well.

MAGA (Melting About Generally Anything) twats seem to forget that. 

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Re: Hunter charges with federal crimes
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2023, 03:57:07 PM »
Oh no.....  what will Trumpturds do now about whining how Hunter is protected from the system?

Yeah, he struck a deal that pretty much says no jail time.

Will Trumpturds cry more or less now?
Meh, his fathers role and connections saved his ass, to deny that is just stupid. Smart to take the plea deal, saved his family the embarrassment of all the little details coming out in court.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Hunter charges with federal crimes
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2023, 04:04:20 PM »
Meh, his fathers role and connections saved his ass, to deny that is just stupid. Smart to take the plea deal, saved his family the embarrassment of all the little details coming out in court.

Actually the crimes he was charged for are hardly what the average person would go to jail for.  They are usually only brought along with more serious offenses.

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Re: Hunter charges with federal crimes
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2023, 04:11:53 PM »
Actually the crimes he was charged for are hardly what the average person would go to jail for.  They are usually only brought along with more serious offenses.

Lie on a gun application then take that gun and go throw it in a garbage bin and when you get caught, let us know the results ….dipshit. It’s a federal crime

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Re: Hunter charges with federal crimes
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2023, 04:12:19 PM »
Actually the crimes he was charged for are hardly what the average person would go to jail for.  They are usually only brought along with more serious offenses.
You don't think lying on a federal form would land the average guy in jail? Then disposing of the gun in a public trashcan while high as a kite? Have you ever purchased a gun?
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Hunter charges with federal crimes
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2023, 04:33:05 PM »
You don't think lying on a federal form would land the average guy in jail? Then disposing of the gun in a public trashcan while high as a kite? Have you ever purchased a gun?

People lie on gun forms all the time.  No, I don't think it would land the average guy in jail unless more serious charges were tacked on with it.

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Re: Hunter charges with federal crimes
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2023, 05:09:48 PM »
You know... if Trumpy had pled guilty  or chooses to plead guilty he would have gotten / will get a far lighter sentence than what may be waiting him as well.

MAGA (Melting About Generally Anything) twats seem to forget that.

You are a dreamer! This will never happen. Trump's standard comment is "I DID NOTHING WRONG!"

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Re: Hunter charges with federal crimes
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2023, 05:16:48 PM »
You are a dreamer! This will never happen. Trump's standard comment is "I DID NOTHING WRONG!"

Exactly.   :D

These trials are going to be so much fun to watch.   Good times!

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Re: Hunter charges with federal crimes
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2023, 05:18:44 PM »
People lie on gun forms all the time.  No, I don't think it would land the average guy in jail unless more serious charges were tacked on with it.
Really? Have you ever purchased a gun?
The penalty is something like $250,000 fine and up to 10 years in prison. On top of that, you don't get your gun and your forfeit the money you paid for it. Yet, the presidents drug addict kid was able to get his gun and throw it in a trash can.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Hunter charges with federal crimes
« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2023, 05:28:47 PM »
People lie on gun forms all the time.  No, I don't think it would land the average guy in jail unless more serious charges were tacked on with it.


What a great argument....soooo...by these standards you should be enraged at any of Trump's charges.

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Re: Hunter charges with federal crimes
« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2023, 05:50:28 PM »
Really? Have you ever purchased a gun?
The penalty is something like $250,000 fine and up to 10 years in prison. On top of that, you don't get your gun and your forfeit the money you paid for it. Yet, the presidents drug addict kid was able to get his gun and throw it in a trash can.

This is why this fool has no idea of what he’s talking about…

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Re: Hunter charges with federal crimes
« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2023, 06:34:56 PM »
This is why this fool has no idea of what he’s talking about…

lol  Right? 

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Re: Hunter charges with federal crimes
« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2023, 06:41:57 PM »
Really? Have you ever purchased a gun?
The penalty is something like $250,000 fine and up to 10 years in prison. On top of that, you don't get your gun and your forfeit the money you paid for it. Yet, the presidents drug addict kid was able to get his gun and throw it in a trash can.

You are correct that is the fine and the possible sentence. Funny how almost nobody is fined or imprisoned for breaking this law. Why, because it is darn hard to prove someone intentionally lied. Trump should be happy about the lying to the Feds part... at this point, it looks like he needs all the breaks he can get.

If he could only keep his lies straight... guess this speaks to the topic of his being too old and crazy for the job he aspires to.

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Re: Hunter charges with federal crimes
« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2023, 07:09:57 PM »
Really? Have you ever purchased a gun?
The penalty is something like $250,000 fine and up to 10 years in prison. On top of that, you don't get your gun and your forfeit the money you paid for it. Yet, the presidents drug addict kid was able to get his gun and throw it in a trash can.

So what you are really saying is that more background checks and restrictions are needed?

Who gives a shit where he threw it? 

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Douglas Berman, a professor of law at Ohio State University and a sentencing expert, read the court papers unsealed Tuesday morning and said that it was difficult to assess from the filings whether Biden received a sweetheart deal.

The crimes to which Biden is pleading guilty, Berman said, are ones that the average person is rarely prosecuted for because they are usually only brought along with more serious offenses.

In Biden’s case, they include a charge stemming from lying about drug use on the government form used for his purchase of a handgun. Current and former officials say tens of thousands of Americans, out of the 25 million who buy guns each year, lie on their forms and are not prosecuted.
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Maybe try another excuse?  Your current one isn't really cutting it.

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Re: Hunter charges with federal crimes
« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2023, 08:48:01 PM »
Why not ask Agnostic what the penalty is for the average person lying on a federal firearms application, getting the gun and then tossing into a dumpster

Well Coach.,. as I've said, I was a Detective.. Sergeant, Lieutenant, Commander. While those ranks and positions gave me some valuable experience, lying on a firearms application fell under another agency's jurisdiction. Jurisdiction is a term used to determine who has legal authority to pursue charges and enforce certain laws.

You also mentioned in another post about a 2-tiered justice system. Since around 1995 with the OJ Simpson Trial, I kind of felt the law wasn't applied equally. Seeing the makeup on Death Row kind of solidified that for me. So yes, I agree there is a 2 tiered system. And I fully expect Trump to do zero time because of it as well.

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