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Re: Sound Of Freedom
« Reply #175 on: July 22, 2023, 10:04:24 AM »
Agnostic has taken himself to Strawman/Lurker - like like levels

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Re: Sound Of Freedom
« Reply #176 on: July 22, 2023, 12:35:21 PM »
Same story as always.

When conservatives don't like a song or a show, they just don't listen to the song or watch the show.

When liberals don't like a song or show, they bitch out (in many cases, chimp out) and "demand" that the song or show in question be cancelled.


BLM, Antifa, and the alphabet crowd are, in the long run, self-correcting problems.

The undesirables either directly self-delete or engage in extreme self-destructive behavior so that their superiors really don't have to do much to wipe the undesirables out. The trash takes itself out.

Keep the trash contained in the areas it currently "thrives" and they will do all the heavy lifting in eliminating one another.
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Re: Sound Of Freedom
« Reply #177 on: July 22, 2023, 04:55:54 PM »
You are completely oblivious to the 2A. WE are the Militia

What part of well trained do you fall under? Shooting range?

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Re: Sound Of Freedom
« Reply #178 on: July 22, 2023, 05:43:13 PM »
What part of well trained do you fall under? Shooting range?

Shooting and Close combat here!

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Re: Sound Of Freedom
« Reply #179 on: July 22, 2023, 06:25:38 PM »
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Re: Sound Of Freedom
« Reply #180 on: July 22, 2023, 08:33:21 PM »
I read this as "Fuck, can't handle Agnostic.. let me do some personal attacks.. I'm sure if you google debate tactics, this is in there..

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Re: Sound Of Freedom
« Reply #181 on: July 22, 2023, 08:36:11 PM »
What part of well trained do you fall under? Shooting range?

The part where I train with and help train cops in the use of firearms handling and tactics.

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Re: Sound Of Freedom
« Reply #182 on: July 22, 2023, 08:39:33 PM »
I read this as "Fuck, can't handle Agnostic.. let me do some personal attacks.. I'm sure if you google debate tactics, this is in there..

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At least he didn't wish death upon you like you did him. :)
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Re: Sound Of Freedom
« Reply #183 on: July 22, 2023, 08:53:49 PM »
I'll be in Newport Beach Sun-Wed attending a memorial for a friend. (Staunch Republican). If I recall, you are in the area. We can meet for a beer and discuss it further.

I just saw this. I’m in Huntington. Was at Newport Dunes today for my grandsons birthday. If you’re still here, hit me up.

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Re: Sound Of Freedom
« Reply #184 on: July 22, 2023, 08:56:58 PM »
The part where I train with and help train cops in the use of firearms handling and tactics.

 ;D

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Re: Sound Of Freedom
« Reply #185 on: July 22, 2023, 08:58:05 PM »
I just saw this. I’m in Huntington. Was at Newport Dunes today for my grandsons birthday. If you’re still here, hit me up.
I fly in tomorrow. Leave Wednesday

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Re: Sound Of Freedom
« Reply #186 on: July 22, 2023, 09:11:36 PM »
I just saw this. I’m in Huntington. Was at Newport Dunes today for my grandsons birthday. If you’re still here, hit me up.
I fly in tomorrow. Leave Wednesday
I'm so excited!! :o ;D
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Re: Sound Of Freedom
« Reply #187 on: July 22, 2023, 09:14:45 PM »
;D

Not sure what’s funny. Most PD’s except for cities with full time SWAT units are woefully undertrained. This is a stone cold fact

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Re: Sound Of Freedom
« Reply #188 on: July 22, 2023, 09:17:40 PM »
Not sure what’s funny. Most PD’s except for cities with full time SWAT units are woefully undertrained. This is a stone cold fact
It's actually embarrassing. The LE I know very rarely train, even just punching holes in paper.
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Re: Sound Of Freedom
« Reply #189 on: July 22, 2023, 09:22:28 PM »
It's actually embarrassing. The LE I know very rarely train, even just punching holes in paper.

Quals for most PD’s on Patrols here is every 6-12 months depending if it’s city or county.  Sad. Do the qual then it’s up to the individual cop to train on his own if he chooses. It’s not mandatory but should be

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Re: Sound Of Freedom
« Reply #190 on: July 22, 2023, 09:28:18 PM »
The part where I train with and help train cops in the use of firearms handling and tactics.

Damn impressive coach, where did you learn the tactics? You sounded like you are knowledgeable in firearms and law enfarcement, are you a part of the police explorer program?

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Re: Sound Of Freedom
« Reply #191 on: July 22, 2023, 09:41:52 PM »
Damn impressive coach, where did you learn the tactics? You sounded like you are knowledgeable in firearms and law enfarcement, are you a part of the police explorer program?

lol….no. No explorer program. Been shooting since I was six then about 6-7years ago started training home protection with a tactical group whose instructors included former swat commanders, Rangers, Seal team members and marine snipers. This snowballed into more tactical stuff like CQB, tac med, getting dropped and shooting from helicopters, etc. We train 3-4 days wk. It’s private training for LE and civilians. Wife calls it real life “larping” lol

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Re: Sound Of Freedom
« Reply #192 on: July 22, 2023, 09:55:18 PM »
Not sure what’s funny. Most PD’s except for cities with full time SWAT units are woefully undertrained. This is a stone cold fact

I know you don't get it

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Re: Sound Of Freedom
« Reply #193 on: July 22, 2023, 09:56:23 PM »
It's actually embarrassing. The LE I know very rarely train, even just punching holes in paper.

In debate,. your personal experience carries very little debate. Google it

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Re: Sound Of Freedom
« Reply #194 on: July 22, 2023, 10:06:19 PM »
lol….no. No explorer program. Been shooting since I was six then about 6-7years ago started training home protection with a tactical group whose instructors included former swat commanders, Rangers, Seal team members and marine snipers. This snowballed into more tactical stuff like CQB, tac med, getting dropped and shooting from helicopters, etc. We train 3-4 days wk. It’s private training for LE and civilians. Wife calls it real life “larping” lol

Coach.. would you say your training would equal my 34 years experience? !0 years military In Security Police. 24 years experience in a major police department? I'm not asking to toot my own horn, I'm trying to get a feel for if you think your training equates to mine? For reference, I got my first 12 gauge when I turned 12.   Been hunting and shooting since I was old enough to carry a gun. Still have my first shotgun. I've done years of tactical stuff. cut my teeth on it. Been on helicopters, crash landed in a C141 in Iwakuni Japan. Are we really comparing dicks on this?    I'm sure there are a couple on this forum that would put me to shame.. but I don't think you are one of them.

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Re: Sound Of Freedom
« Reply #195 on: July 22, 2023, 10:26:35 PM »
Coach.. would you say your training would equal my 34 years experience? !0 years military In Security Police. 24 years experience in a major police department? I'm not asking to toot my own horn, I'm trying to get a feel for if you think your training equates to mine? For reference, I got my first 12 gauge when I turned 12.   Been hunting and shooting since I was old enough to carry a gun. Still have my first shotgun. I've done years of tactical stuff. cut my teeth on it. Been on helicopters, crash landed in a C141 in Iwakuni Japan. Are we really comparing dicks on this?    I'm sure there are a couple on this forum that would put me to shame.. but I don't think you are one of them.

Where did I say it did? I stated a fact. The majority of cops are undertrained. Wouldn’t you agree? The hit rate in LE is only about 36% at 10 yards without movement. I know you trained a lot when you were in the military but that was 10 years before you became an LE officer. How often did you train after your military service?

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Re: Sound Of Freedom
« Reply #196 on: July 23, 2023, 02:15:52 AM »
The part where I train with and help train cops in the use of firearms handling and tactics.

Not meaning to personally attack you or shoehorn myself in, but that stuff absolutely is LARPing. Which is fine, if it's just playing soldiers for fun, but something has gone monumentally wrong over there if armed police are being trained on handling and tactics by civilians with no real-life experience in any of it. That's genuinely shocking to hear. Why on Earth aren't they just being sent to do some cross-training with military units in CQB? 

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Re: Sound Of Freedom
« Reply #197 on: July 23, 2023, 02:36:46 AM »
Not meaning to personally attack you or shoehorn myself in, but that stuff absolutely is LARPing. Which is fine, if it's just playing soldiers for fun, but something has gone monumentally wrong over there if armed police are being trained on handling and tactics by civilians with no real-life experience in any of it. That's genuinely shocking to hear. Why on Earth aren't they just being sent to do some cross-training with military units in CQB?

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Re: Sound Of Freedom
« Reply #198 on: July 23, 2023, 02:52:59 AM »
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Re: Sound Of Freedom
« Reply #199 on: July 23, 2023, 06:55:33 AM »
For reference, I got my first 12 gauge when I turned 12.   Been hunting and shooting since I was old enough to carry a gun. Still have my first shotgun.

Off topic, but different times for sure lol.  I remember one Christmas where I got a crossman 760 bb gun and a real folding jack knife.  I think I was 10 or 11.

Went into the woods the next day solo to shoot it.

Could never even fathom this to this day.

I do still have my first shotgun too - single shot 410.
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