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Re: Sound Of Freedom
« Reply #225 on: July 24, 2023, 03:37:45 PM »
“Lied” lol

Yes.  Lied.  This is why you have zero credibility on this board - and most likely in real life too.

It's also the reason other Trump supporters keep quiet and do not attempt to help you out with your bullshit.  It's always such an obvious lie that they don't want to associate with it.

So, either you can post a link to where those charges on the Michigan AG website are listed and the video where the AG said the exact same words is "debunked" as you claim, or you are just a little liar.

We all know what it is.  We all know you can't post a link to your bullshit claim.  Just. Like. Always.

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« Reply #226 on: July 24, 2023, 04:37:25 PM »
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« Reply #227 on: July 24, 2023, 05:52:55 PM »
Yes.  Lied.  This is why you have zero credibility on this board - and most likely in real life too.

It's also the reason other Trump supporters keep quiet and do not attempt to help you out with your bullshit.  It's always such an obvious lie that they don't want to associate with it.

So, either you can post a link to where those charges on the Michigan AG website are listed and the video where the AG said the exact same words is "debunked" as you claim, or you are just a little liar.

We all know what it is.  We all know you can't post a link to your bullshit claim.  Just. Like. Always.

You’re having another meltdown down little man..they don’t need to say anything and I already proved that when I took a story from Biden thread where you kept your mouth shut because you knew you’d get owned and started a separate thread where you promptly trolled me. Plus you’ve already admitted you didn’t read anything I posted. Keep melting down, you’re my source of entertainment

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Re: Sound Of Freedom
« Reply #228 on: July 24, 2023, 05:59:02 PM »
The part where I train with and help train cops in the use of firearms handling and tactics.

What this sounds like and what it actually is.. in your mind.. you were being honest? I’m just trying to see in what world this would be an accurate statement..

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« Reply #229 on: July 24, 2023, 06:10:07 PM »
What this sounds like and what it actually is.. in your mind.. you were being honest? I’m just trying to see in what world this would be an accurate statement..

I’m trying to figure why you would think this wouldn’t even be in realm possibility.

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« Reply #230 on: July 24, 2023, 06:14:24 PM »
You’re having another meltdown down little man..they don’t need to say anything and I already proved that when I took a story from Biden thread where you kept your mouth shut because you knew you’d get owned and started a separate thread where you promptly trolled me. Plus you’ve already admitted you didn’t read anything I posted. Keep melting down, you’re my source of entertainment

Meltdown?  hahahahah    you claimed "they" debunked irrefutable facts and yet you can't supply a link to where "they" did it.  You can't because it doesn't exist.  Just like your credibility.

You are just a certified retard who can't post anything with any substance of truth.  That has been proven.  Over and over.    Watching you dodge reality is the best entertainment in the world. 

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« Reply #231 on: July 24, 2023, 06:19:09 PM »
Meltdown?  hahahahah    you claimed "they" debunked irrefutable facts and yet you can't supply a link to where "they" did it.  You can't because it doesn't exist.  Just like your credibility.

You are just a certified retard who can't post anything with any substance of truth.  That has been proven.  Over and over.    Watching you dodge reality is the best entertainment in the world.

“Irrefutable”? Hasn’t even gone to trial dipshit. Lol

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« Reply #232 on: July 24, 2023, 06:21:14 PM »
“Irrefutable”? Hasn’t even gone to trial dipshit. Lol

Doesn't have to go to trial for the article to be correct.   ::)   The article, the page on the State AG site, and the video of the  AG herself speaking all said the same thing.  That the fake electors were charges.  Not a single thing about a trial.

And yet, you claim it was debunked but can't supply a single link to the debunking.   :D

Dumbass.  You again show you know nothing of legal process.

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« Reply #233 on: July 24, 2023, 06:28:14 PM »
Doesn't have to go to trial for the article to be correct.   ::)   The article, the page on the State AG site, and the video of the  AG herself speaking all said the same thing.  That the fake electors were charges.  Not a single thing about a trial.

And yet, you claim it was debunked but can't supply a single link to the debunking.   :D

Dumbass.  You again show you know nothing of legal process.

So they’re guilty before proving innocence, Nancy Pelosi?

“AG Nessel, in her charging documents, makes it appear as though the electors were conducting some shady back room deals and covertly trying to replace the Biden electors’ certificates with Trump’s.  This was not the case.  In fact, they were very public about submitting their certificates”

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« Reply #234 on: July 24, 2023, 06:30:26 PM »
So they’re guilty before proving innocence, Nancy Pelosi?

That has ZERO to do with what I posted and the article said.  It said nothing about trials or innocence or guilt.   ::)

In addition to your credibility being "debunked", I guess we can add your reading skill to that list as well.

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« Reply #235 on: July 24, 2023, 06:31:49 PM »
That has ZERO to do with what I posted and the article said.  It said nothing about trials or innocence or guilt.   ::)

In addition to your credibility being "debunked", I guess we can add your reading skill to that list as well.

You said I knew nothing about the legal process. I do know you’re innocent until proven guilty. You’re obviously drunk posting

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« Reply #236 on: July 24, 2023, 06:34:32 PM »
That has ZERO to do with what I posted and the article said.  It said nothing about trials or innocence or guilt.   ::)

In addition to your credibility being "debunked", I guess we can add your reading skill to that list as well.

I have more if you need it


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« Reply #237 on: July 24, 2023, 06:37:37 PM »
I have more of you need it

That has ZERO to do with my post.  hahahahaha.  Damn you are stupid.  An op-ed piece doesn't change the fact the charges are filed -IN ENGLISH - on the State AG site.  Or that the AG herself said - IN ENGLISH - the exact same thing I posted.

Felonies you tard.

Nothing listed about trials or guilt.  hahahaha

https://www.michigan.gov/ag/news/press-releases/2023/07/18/michigan-attorney-general-dana-nessel-charges-16-false-electors



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« Reply #238 on: July 24, 2023, 06:39:02 PM »
I’m trying to figure why you would think this wouldn’t even be in realm possibility.

Liability would be one of many reasons. A department having a non instructor certified person training their officers in shooting and tactics would be a lawsuit just waiting to happen in the event of a deadly force incident.

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« Reply #239 on: July 24, 2023, 06:39:18 PM »
Good times!

Now please show the link to where these charges were "debunked" and false.   :D ;D :D ;D ;D

LANSING – Today, Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel announced felony charges against 16 Michigan residents for their role in the alleged false electors scheme following the 2020 U.S. presidential election.  The charged defendants are:

    Kathy Berden, 70, of Snover
    William (Hank) Choate, 72, of Cement City
    Amy Facchinello, 55, of Grand Blanc
    Clifford Frost, 75, of Warren
    Stanley Grot, 71, of Shelby Township
    John Haggard, 82, of Charlevoix
    Mari-Ann Henry, 65, of Brighton
    Timothy King, 56, of Ypsilanti
    Michele Lundgren, 73, of Detroit
    Meshawn Maddock, 55, of Milford
    James Renner, 76, of Lansing
    Mayra Rodriguez, 64, of Grosse Pointe Farms
    Rose Rook, 81, of Paw Paw
    Marian Sheridan, 69, of West Bloomfield
    Ken Thompson, 68, of Orleans
    Kent Vanderwood, 69, of Wyoming

Each defendant has been charged with:

    One count of Conspiracy to Commit Forgery, a 14-year felony,
    Two counts of Forgery, a 14-year felony,
    One count of Conspiracy to Commit Uttering and Publishing, a 14-year felony,
    One count of Uttering and Publishing, a 14-year felony,
    One count of Conspiracy to Commit Election Law Forgery, a 5-year felony, and,
    Two counts of Election Law Forgery, a 5-year felony.

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Re: Sound Of Freedom
« Reply #240 on: July 24, 2023, 06:40:20 PM »
Liability would be one of many reasons. A department having a non instructor certified person training their officers in shooting and tactics would be a lawsuit just waiting to happen in the event of a deadly force incident.


Well his credibility would be the first reason it wouldn't be in the realm of possibility.

Probably bumped his head one too many times jumping out of that helicopter.

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« Reply #241 on: July 24, 2023, 06:43:16 PM »
That has ZERO to do with my post.  hahahahaha.  Damn you are stupid.  An op-ed piece doesn't change the fact the charges are filed -IN ENGLISH - on the State AG site.  Or that the AG herself said - IN ENGLISH - the exact same thing I posted.

Felonies you tard.

Nothing listed about trials or guilt.  hahahaha

https://www.michigan.gov/ag/news/press-releases/2023/07/18/michigan-attorney-general-dana-nessel-charges-16-false-electors

You said, I didn’t have proof, you said I didn’t debunk it, or at least debunk your story. Like I said, there’s more.

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« Reply #242 on: July 24, 2023, 06:44:54 PM »
You said, I didn’t have proof, you said I didn’t debunk it, or at least debunk your story. Like I said, there’s more.

You don't have proof those charges are false or debunked.
You did not even come close to debunking those charges.


If there is more, why not cut to the chase and just post where they are false.   ::)   The fact you haven't done it yet shows you can't do it.  Liar.

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« Reply #243 on: July 24, 2023, 06:46:42 PM »
I have more if you need it

Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, who has faced threats from 2020 election deniers — hailed the charges as a step toward “accountability” for those who sought to subvert democracy on behalf of Trump. “We are still in the midst of a nationally coordinated effort to weaken democracy,”

I Guess i just debunked your debunking? I posted something from an official that says the charges are valid. That seems to be your criteria

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« Reply #244 on: July 24, 2023, 06:49:54 PM »
Good times!

Now please show the link to where these charges were "debunked" and false.   :D ;D :D ;D ;D

LANSING – Today, Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel announced felony charges against 16 Michigan residents for their role in the alleged false electors scheme following the 2020 U.S. presidential election.  The charged defendants are:

    Kathy Berden, 70, of Snover
    William (Hank) Choate, 72, of Cement City
    Amy Facchinello, 55, of Grand Blanc
    Clifford Frost, 75, of Warren
    Stanley Grot, 71, of Shelby Township
    John Haggard, 82, of Charlevoix
    Mari-Ann Henry, 65, of Brighton
    Timothy King, 56, of Ypsilanti
    Michele Lundgren, 73, of Detroit
    Meshawn Maddock, 55, of Milford
    James Renner, 76, of Lansing
    Mayra Rodriguez, 64, of Grosse Pointe Farms
    Rose Rook, 81, of Paw Paw
    Marian Sheridan, 69, of West Bloomfield
    Ken Thompson, 68, of Orleans
    Kent Vanderwood, 69, of Wyoming

Each defendant has been charged with:

    One count of Conspiracy to Commit Forgery, a 14-year felony,
    Two counts of Forgery, a 14-year felony,
    One count of Conspiracy to Commit Uttering and Publishing, a 14-year felony,
    One count of Uttering and Publishing, a 14-year felony,
    One count of Conspiracy to Commit Election Law Forgery, a 5-year felony, and,
    Two counts of Election Law Forgery, a 5-year felony.

Being charged, does not mean they are guilty. As a matter of fact, Soros attorney generals have a bad habit of charging usually without all the evidence gathered so tell me again, how you think you know the legal system

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« Reply #245 on: July 24, 2023, 06:51:19 PM »
Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, who has faced threats from 2020 election deniers — hailed the charges as a step toward “accountability” for those who sought to subvert democracy on behalf of Trump. “We are still in the midst of a nationally coordinated effort to weaken democracy,”

I Guess i just debunked your debunking? I posted something from an official that says the charges are valid. That seems to be your criteria

Sorry pal, you’re purposely trying to get off another subject. Why don’t we just stick to the conversation you and I were having. You never answered my question.

By the way, right now, I’m about a mile from Newport Beach. I actually have some time to stop and have that beer before I go home if you want.

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« Reply #246 on: July 24, 2023, 06:53:06 PM »
Being charged, does not mean they are guilty. As a matter of fact, Soros attorney generals have a bad habit of charging usually without all the evidence gathered so tell me again, how you think you know the legal system

No said anything about guilt.  hahahahahah  the fact I have to keep typing something this simple shows how stupid you are.

I posted and the article clearly said and the AG herself voiced about, was about being charged.

hahahahaha epic - but useless - backpedaling.

You don't have shit.  No debunking link.  No credibility.  No reading comprehension skill past 8th grade.  Nothing.  Except lies.
And yeah, I have a better understanding of the legal system than some retard who can't read out of comic book level.   ::)

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« Reply #247 on: July 24, 2023, 06:55:39 PM »
Sorry pal, you’re purposely trying to get off another subject. Why don’t we just stick to the conversation you and I were having. You never answered my question.

By the way, right now, I’m about a mile from Newport Beach. I actually have some time to stop and have that beer before I go home if you want.

Oh, I am not leaving the “I trained cops” subject anytime soon

Had a memorial earlier today. Spending time with the family. Might have availability tomorrow.

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« Reply #248 on: July 24, 2023, 06:58:08 PM »
You said I knew nothing about the legal process. I do know you’re innocent until proven guilty. You’re obviously drunk posting

I said nothing of the such in the original thread.  I said that now.  And it is true.

Quote what I said in the original thread.  I'm not drunk, but drunks are still smarter than you.  You just flat out lied.  You had no link and you still have no link debunking those charges.  You are an idiot with nothing of substance to cope with reality with. 

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« Reply #249 on: July 24, 2023, 07:02:16 PM »
No said anything about guilt.  hahahahahah  the fact I have to keep typing something this simple shows how stupid you are.

I posted and the article clearly said and the AG herself voiced about, was about being charged.

hahahahaha epic - but useless - backpedaling.

You don't have shit.  No debunking link.  No credibility.  No reading comprehension skill past 8th grade.  Nothing.  Except lies.
And yeah, I have a better understanding of the legal system than some retard who can't read out of comic book level.   ::)


Last week, Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel announced charges against 16 Trump electors who submitted their votes as alternates amidst belief that there would be an honest investigation into the 2020 election.

The charges include forgery, election fraud, and conspiracy.

where the electors publicly called their votes a “back up slate” and affirmed, “this is not a replacement.”  Their actions were to give a “life vote” to Michigan legislators under the presumption that there would be an honest investigation/audit of the Michigan election, especially in Wayne County, where canvassers initially refused to certify the vote because of an imbalance in 70% of the 134 absentee counting boards in Detroit.

Michigan’s House Elections Vice Chair, Rep. Rachelle Smit, has released a statement arguing that what the electors did was “completely legal, completely valid, and anticipating that there would be an honest investigation into Michigan voter fraud.”


The Trump electors were preserving the ability for a voter fraud investigation to happen after December 15, 2020.  The Trump electors committed no forgery, no fraud, and zero violation of Michigan’s election laws.  Dana Nessel knows this, but she brought charges against these people anyway.  Our Michigan AG is an absolute disgrace to the rule of law.  This is a political prosecution by an attorney general who shamelessly abuses the law for the basest of political motives.  Dana Nessel, as attorney general, is a threat to the rule of law and our system of governance.”


From Fox2 on Nov 17, 2020:

It comes with a condition Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson conduct an audit of the unexplained precincts in Wayne County where numbers did not match. After initially split on the vote to verify the election results from Wayne County, the board of canvassers ultimately revised their vote and unanimously voted to certify the will of the people.
 
There wasn’t an honest investigation into Wayne County’s canvassing board’s imbalance that we can find.  There was, however, a statewide “risk-limiting audit” of 18,000 ballots out of 5.45 million (00.3%), using “auditing software to randomly select ballots that will be pulled from any one of Michigan’s 1,520 local election jurisdictions and hand-reviewed.”   Looking for 3 or 4% of potentially fraudulent ballots in a universe of 5.45 million (~218,000) by only looking at 00.3% of a universe is in line with the proverbial “finding a needle in a haystack”.  If you had 1,000 ballots, you would be looking at just 3 ballots total.  If 4% of the ballots were fraudulent, those 3 ballots would have to find 40 in a universe of 1,000.

Director of Michigan Bureau of Elections Jonathan Brater explains:

“What we’re going to be doing today is rolling 20 dice, 10-sided dice, to create a random number that we’re then going to put into a computer algorithm that will tell us which of these ballots from all across the state that we’re going to randomly pull.  And then we’re going to compare about 18,000 ballots that we randomly pull to the machine tabulated totals, to confirm within a statistical level of certainty that the outcome of the election was correct.”

Further, this “risk-limiting audit” does nothing to provide answers regarding missing chain of custody documents, ballot deliveries 3.5 hours after polls closed with a single driver with Indiana plates (no party observers),  late night ballot drops at 4am escorted twice by a car with Pennsylvania plates,  and again, in 2022, similar late night drops (in 2022, Michigan Democrats took control of the state legislature).

The weaponized Michigan AG’s office is pressing charges for actions that there is precedent for in the United States:  in 1960, Hawaii sent an “alternate slate of electors” after a contested election between John F Kennedy and Richard Nixon.  Kennedy’s three electors signed their own certificates and sent them to Washington.  Eventually, after recounts and an investigation, Hawaii’s “alternate” electors were sat and Hawaii was given to Kennedy

From Politico:

By December 1960, it was clear Kennedy had won. Only Hawaii’s result remained in doubt. Nixon had prevailed by just 140 votes, according to the initial results, which were certified by the governor. A recount was underway on Dec. 19, 1960, when presidential electors across the nation were required by law to meet and cast their ballots.

Nixon’s Hawaii electors met and cast their three votes in an official ceremony. But nearby, Kennedy’s three elector nominees gathered and signed their own certificates, delivering them to Washington as though Kennedy had won the state.
Back in November 2020, Democrat Representative-elect Abraham Aiyash threatened one of the canvassing board members, Monica Palmer, by doxxing her and her children’s schools on a public Zoom meeting.  Remember: 70% of Wayne County’s absentee boards were out of balance.  SOS Jocelyn Benson’s Office promised an audit if they agreed to certify.

AG Nessel, in her charging documents, makes it appear as though the electors were conducting some shady back room deals and covertly trying to replace the Biden electors’ certificates with Trump’s.  This was not the case.  In fact, they were very public about submitting their certificates:

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/07/statement-michigan-house-elections-vice-chair-2020-trump/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=statement-michigan-house-elections-vice-chair-2020-trump&fbclid=PAAaYXjke_siBGZR948yJ0D1GlerC87WpvTjDWvBx7TnXJF0krlSHPbj6OFoc_aem_AYzDqTtw5MBF2cjuljGL9Y3EBRkZ_9Us43wEiTliED781VLQ1RgvetU-mTrYkdoK42Q