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Re: The walls are closing in
« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2023, 08:37:44 PM »
Or, a nothing burger.  Jim Jordan and Comer are just too guarded in their view of what Archer had to say. This would fit with the "noise" portion of this article below that you won't read. Of those phone calls, not a single one discussed business. Had Archer testified differently, like had actual information that would implicate Joe Biden, Jordan and Comer would be announcing it with a loudspeaker. Sorry, but routine telephone calls to his son and from his son are not, never have been and never will be a crime. If that's what you are banking on, like the last election, be ready to be disappointed. I am here waiting for credible evidence that Joe Biden violated the law. I don't care for Joe as President, I think he is creepy around children, but to ME, it's both sad and embarrasing as an American citizen to see other citizens fooled by the Republicans charade. You should know better.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/u-s-congressman-drops-truth-bomb-on-maga-after-devon-archer-s-biden-testimony/ar-AA1eDFVK?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=c1a29f6f95264427bb731fcf006bc59f&ei=9

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Re: The walls are closing in
« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2023, 09:09:44 PM »
*smh 🤦‍♂️

I figured as such. Facts don't scare you. You are certainly tenacious in your beliefs, as exemplified in your pitbull like hold on the "stolen election" fabrication.

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Re: The walls are closing in
« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2023, 09:22:43 PM »
I figured as such. Facts don't scare you. You are certainly tenacious in your beliefs, as exemplified in your pitbull like hold on the "stolen election" fabrication.

Sweet Jesus you’re as clueless as every leftist I’ve ever met. Being a former cop I had somewhat of hope, but as it were…

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Re: The walls are closing in
« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2023, 09:39:31 PM »
Sweet Jesus you’re as clueless as every leftist I’ve ever met. Being a former cop I had somewhat of hope, but as it were…

No offense coach, but when an election denier questions my sanity, I feel like I'm on the right track. Let me do this.... Let me lay it out for you... given the information we know of Archers testimony; a couple senators have spoken out.. 1 says "I stayed for the whole hearing, I'm the only one. Archer said Biden Sr never talked business, or anything but pleasantries."   at the end of the day, it will be determined based on this new information, that it was a nothing burger. Promise me when the smoke clears, you'll come back here and we can talk about why you might have been mislead.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/devon-archer-hunter-biden-house-oversight-committee-testifies/

Goldman told reporters that there's "no connection" between the president and his son's business dealings.

"The witness indicated that Hunter spoke to his father every day," Goldman said. "And approximately 20 times over the course of [a] 10-year relationship, Hunter may have put his father on the phone with any number of different people, and they never once spoke about any business dealings. As he described it, it was all casual conversation, niceties, the weather, 'what's going on?' There wasn't a single conversation about any of the business dealings that Hunter had."

That's an excerpt. click on the link thing and read it..   Here's a hint.. compare Goldmans absolute statements with Jordan and Comers "But he talked to his Dad during business meetings" vague noise claims.

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Re: The walls are closing in
« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2023, 10:58:48 PM »
No offense coach, but when an election denier questions my sanity, I feel like I'm on the right track. Let me do this.... Let me lay it out for you... given the information we know of Archers testimony; a couple senators have spoken out.. 1 says "I stayed for the whole hearing, I'm the only one. Archer said Biden Sr never talked business, or anything but pleasantries."   at the end of the day, it will be determined based on this new information, that it was a nothing burger. Promise me when the smoke clears, you'll come back here and we can talk about why you might have been mislead.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/devon-archer-hunter-biden-house-oversight-committee-testifies/

Goldman told reporters that there's "no connection" between the president and his son's business dealings.

"The witness indicated that Hunter spoke to his father every day," Goldman said. "And approximately 20 times over the course of [a] 10-year relationship, Hunter may have put his father on the phone with any number of different people, and they never once spoke about any business dealings. As he described it, it was all casual conversation, niceties, the weather, 'what's going on?' There wasn't a single conversation about any of the business dealings that Hunter had."

That's an excerpt. click on the link thing and read it..   Here's a hint.. compare Goldmans absolute statements with Jordan and Comers "But he talked to his Dad during business meetings" vague noise claims.

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I'm not even sure you know what Clueless means at this point


IIRC didn't the Dummycraps have a few things to say/ questions about the 2000 ,2004 & 2016
Elections - nope I can't be bothered at this time to search for specfics, as I'm bored of the
Endless merry go round of Trumpsters & DummyCraps.
Perhaps they were election deniers in those years 🤔

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Re: The walls are closing in
« Reply #30 on: August 01, 2023, 11:06:33 PM »
Pot/Kettle/black

You clearly have not purchased any cookware lately. Today's pots and kettles come in a huge variety of colors.

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Re: The walls are closing in
« Reply #31 on: August 02, 2023, 06:44:53 AM »


Goldman told reporters that there's "no connection" between the president and his son's business dealings.

"The witness indicated that Hunter spoke to his father every day," Goldman said. "And approximately 20 times over the course of [a] 10-year relationship, Hunter may have put his father on the phone with any number of different people, and they never once spoke about any business dealings. As he described it, it was all casual conversation, niceties, the weather, 'what's going on?' There wasn't a single conversation about any of the business dealings that Hunter had."

That's an excerpt. click on the link thing and read it..   Here's a hint.. compare Goldmans absolute statements with Jordan and Comers "But he talked to his Dad during business meetings" vague noise claims.


So Biden was on 20 calls with Hunter's business partners to talk about the weather?

Does that make any sense?

We know he lied about saying the laptop was fake.

We know he lied about every being on calls with Hunter's business partners.

But everything else is the truth?



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Re: The walls are closing in
« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2023, 06:47:36 AM »
Qoach drowning in his own stupidity again.

Jellyfish have survived for millions of years without a brain, so there is hope yet for Trump supporters.

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Re: The walls are closing in
« Reply #33 on: August 02, 2023, 05:23:23 PM »
You clearly have not purchased any cookware lately. Today's pots and kettles come in a huge variety of colors.
I know the saying is quite young compared to you, maybe have one of your great grandkids explain it to you. :)
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: The walls are closing in
« Reply #34 on: August 02, 2023, 09:26:40 PM »
So Biden was on 20 calls with Hunter's business partners to talk about the weather?

Does that make any sense?

We know he lied about saying the laptop was fake.

We know he lied about every being on calls with Hunter's business partners.

But everything else is the truth?


I would have to see what Biden actually said about the phone calls to see if he lied. What I know is Joe Biden has said he wasn't involved in his sons buisness dealings. What I know is Archers testimony was that Biden was phoned during about 20 meetings over a 10 year peirod. Biden and his son talked to each other on the phone almost every day according to Archer. so roughly 3,650 phone calls, over 10 years, and around 20 where when Hunter called him while with associates. And of those 20 calls, Archer testified they were benign, pleasantries... nothing at all about business. Was Hunter using his Dad as influence? Absolutely. I'm not seeing a crime here.

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Re: The walls are closing in
« Reply #35 on: August 02, 2023, 09:39:26 PM »

I would have to see what Biden actually said about the phone calls to see if he lied. What I know is Joe Biden has said he wasn't involved in his sons buisness dealings. What I know is Archers testimony was that Biden was phoned during about 20 meetings over a 10 year peirod. Biden and his son talked to each other on the phone almost every day according to Archer. so roughly 3,650 phone calls, over 10 years, and around 20 where when Hunter called him while with associates. And of those 20 calls, Archer testified they were benign, pleasantries... nothing at all about business. Was Hunter using his Dad as influence? Absolutely. I'm not seeing a crime here.

False.  He expressly said he never talked to Hunter Biden or his brother about his overseas business dealings.  Here are his own words. 



Are you just uninformed or simply lying about what he said? 

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Re: The walls are closing in
« Reply #36 on: August 02, 2023, 09:54:09 PM »
False.  He expressly said he never talked to Hunter Biden or his brother about his overseas business dealings.  Here are his own words. 



Are you just uninformed or simply lying about what he said?

Ok.. I listened to the video twice. It says Joe Biden said he never spoke to his son about his sons business dealings

Now, what would be helpful, is a video with Joe speaking to his son about his business dealings. Do you have that?

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Re: The walls are closing in
« Reply #37 on: August 02, 2023, 10:02:00 PM »
Ok.. I listened to the video twice. It says Joe Biden said he never spoke to his son about his sons business dealings

Now, what would be helpful, is a video with Joe speaking to his son about his business dealings. Do you have that?

So why did you say "Joe Biden has said he wasn't involved in his sons buisness dealings"?

Don't be a troll.

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Re: The walls are closing in
« Reply #38 on: August 02, 2023, 10:12:10 PM »
So why did you say "Joe Biden has said he wasn't involved in his sons buisness dealings"?

Don't be a troll.

Sometimes I think we're speaking two different languages..

Your video backs up "Joe Biden has said he wasn't involved in his sons business dealings."

Now here is the part where you show me Joe Biden DID discuss business dealings with Hunter Biden

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Re: The walls are closing in
« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2023, 10:14:49 PM »
Wait.. am I on Candid Camera??

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Re: The walls are closing in
« Reply #40 on: August 02, 2023, 10:21:14 PM »
Sometimes I think we're speaking two different languages..

Your video backs up "Joe Biden has said he wasn't involved in his sons business dealings."

Now here is the part where you show me Joe Biden DID discuss business dealings with Hunter Biden

You regurgitated the current liberal talking point that Biden was not in business with Hunter.  But what he actually said was he never talked to Hunter about his overseas business dealings.  So my question is why did you misstate what Biden actually said?  Either you were uninformed or you were lying.  Which one? 

And like I said, stop being a troll.  You know there is no video of Joe Biden talking to Hunter Biden.  How stupid is that?  lol

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Re: The walls are closing in
« Reply #41 on: August 02, 2023, 10:21:40 PM »
Wait.. am I on Candid Camera??

 ::)  Get your own material. 

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« Reply #42 on: August 02, 2023, 10:33:26 PM »
You regurgitated the current liberal talking point that Biden was not in business with Hunter.  But what he actually said was he never talked to Hunter about his overseas business dealings.  So my question is why did you misstate what Biden actually said?  Either you were uninformed or you were lying.  Which one? 

And like I said, stop being a troll.  You know there is no video of Joe Biden talking to Hunter Biden.  How stupid is that?  lol

You seem to be more stupid than I gave you credit for. You NEVER offer anything to back up your statements.. just vague excuses. I said Biden has said many times, in many ways (just listen to your video you posted so proudly as if it proved something) that he wasn't involved in his sons business dealings. You posted a video that basically said what I said., but have yet to post any evidence that he wasn't telling the truth. As usual, you become fake flustered, hem and haw over semantics, then pout and give some excuse why you won't provide evidence. I am open minded, if there is some evidence that he did in fact involve himself in Bidens business dealings (burisma seems to be the albatross) I will gladly read it.

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Re: The walls are closing in
« Reply #43 on: August 02, 2023, 10:43:14 PM »
You seem to be more stupid than I gave your credit for. You NEVER offer anything to back up your statements.. just vague excuses. I said Biden has said many times, in many ways (just listen to your video you posted so proudly as if it proved something) that he wasn't involved in his sons business dealings. You posted a video that basically said what I said., but have yet to post any evidence that he wasn't telling the truth. As usual, you become fake flustered, hem and haw over semantics, then pout and give some excuse why you won't provide evidence. I am open minded, if there is some evidence that he did in fact involve himself in Bidens business dealings (burisma seems to be the albatross) I will gladly read it.

You're not smart enough to understand what a total hack you are.  There is a clear distinction between never speaking with someone and not being involved in their business.  The narrative changed because it's clear Biden lied about never speaking with Hunter.  I wasn't really expecting you to admit that you either didn't know what the heck you were talking about or just lied about it.  Given your history, I'm leaning towards you just lying about it. 

Whenever you think you can prove some point you post all kinds of crap.  When you are faced with things that blow up your liberal narratives, you suddenly get arthritis, can't use Google, and start asking for me or others to do your work for you.  No thanks troll.  Go do your own homework.

I actually don't have a problem helping people understand things.  But when I'm dealing with disingenuous trolls like you, not so much.  You can go pound sand. 

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« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2023, 10:48:11 PM »
You're not smart enough to understand what a total hack you are.  There is a clear distinction between never speaking with someone and not being involved in their business.  The narrative changed because it's clear Biden lied about never speaking with Hunter.  I wasn't really expecting you to admit that you either didn't know what the heck you were talking about or just lied about it.  Given your history, I'm leaning towards you just lying about it. 

Whenever you think you can prove some point you post all kinds of crap.  When you are faced with things that blow up your liberal narratives, you suddenly get arthritis, can't use Google, and start asking for me or others to do your work for you.  No thanks troll.  Go do your own homework.

I actually don't have a problem helping people understand things.  But when I'm dealing with disingenuous trolls like you, not so much.  You can go pound sand.

Read your post twice.. Didn't contain any helpful information showing Biden lied. I'm under no illusions here, I know politicians lie, humans lie.. Wouldn't shock me if a video surfaces with Joe Biden and Hunter at a dry board outlining their 1 year plan for milking money from overseas clients.. but... show me something...

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Re: The walls are closing in
« Reply #45 on: August 02, 2023, 10:50:41 PM »
Read your post twice.. Didn't contain any helpful information showing Biden lied. I'm under no illusions here, I know politicians lie, humans lie.. Wouldn't shock me if a video surfaces with Joe Biden and Hunter at a dry board outlining their 1 year plan for milking money from overseas clients.. but... show me something...

Troll.  Get your head out of your rear end and go read. 

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Re: The walls are closing in
« Reply #46 on: August 02, 2023, 11:16:43 PM »
Troll.  Get your head out of your rear end and go read.

No point even trying to have a conversation with you. You dodge any effort to provide any evidence of your claims with lame insults. it's just gotten old. I'll let you waste someone else's time going forward.

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Re: The walls are closing in
« Reply #47 on: August 02, 2023, 11:45:32 PM »
Ok.. I listened to the video twice. It says Joe Biden said he never spoke to his son about his sons business dealings

Now, what would be helpful, is a video with Joe speaking to his son about his business dealings. Do you have that?

"Now, what would be helpful, is a video with Joe speaking to his son about his business dealings. Do you have that? "

Probably no such video exists.

Though there is that visitor log of the 3 meeting at the White House.
 

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Re: The walls are closing in
« Reply #48 on: August 03, 2023, 01:57:52 PM »
No point even trying to have a conversation with you. You dodge any effort to provide any evidence of your claims with lame insults. it's just gotten old. I'll let you waste someone else's time going forward.


If I may play mediator here, I believe that what you’re saying about “semantics” and not being any difference in what Biden actually said and what Dos said, I can see both sides. The video, where he stated he doesn’t talk to his son about business dealings and not being involved are two different things. It could be that those two things are one and the same, or that Biden is purposely dancing around it by tweaking a word hereof there to bend the truth. It’s like the video of recently of John Kerry saying “I’ve never owned a plane, we’ve never owned a plane”. No, I guess not, it was his wife who owned the plane. I believe people know how to tip toe around saying certain things to make themselves not actually lying, because they side stepped actually saying anything.

Now, do I think Biden was on the phone to talk weather? Fuck no. Even if all he did was sit there, there was a reason behind it. Shit, I’m in business for myself and I’ve never brought either of my parents on a conference call with clients.

And just to be clear Agnostic, I don’t necessarily agree with your politics, but I do like you as a poster. I think you catch some flaak around here that’s unnecessary.

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Re: The walls are closing in
« Reply #49 on: August 03, 2023, 02:16:23 PM »

Now, do I think Biden was on the phone to talk weather? Fuck no. Even if all he did was sit there, there was a reason behind it. Shit, I’m in business for myself and I’ve never brought either of my parents on a conference call with clients.


I've been in countless business meetings and it has never happened.  As Devon Archer confirmed, the only reason Hunter put Joe on the phone was to sell "the brand," i.e., access to the VP.  Scandalous. 

And while in business did you have 20 shell LLCs that you used to transfer money to all of your family members?  There is nothing innocent about this.