Wrong again ND. Ronnie got bigger and tighter. He may not be the 285-290 pound freak he is now, but he was around 250-255 easy in 1998/1999. You persist on how Dorian filled out his frame, got better, etc. You admit he looked poorly in 1997. Once again, if the show wasn't fixed (read IFBB judges really picked the best physique that day and did not give gifts based on name alone), Ronnie would have slaughtered Dorian in 1998/1999/2000/2003/2004/2005. I feel in 2001 and 2002 he came in flat enough that a pre one armed bandit Yates could have put up a good fight. However, your logic is dubious at best. Look at the pics I have posted, Hulkster has posted along with every other objective person here. Ronnie kills him now. Granted, Dorian was better at a younger age, but who gives a shit. Haney won the Mr. Olympia before he was 25. I only agree with you on one point, the way that bodybuilding judging is going, 1998 could have been the ultimate travesty if Yates had completed with horrible GH gut, no legs, and one arm and beaten a spot on Coleman. However, I tend to believe you that this may have happened. However, if you are completely objective and they were based on their merits, it would be no contest. Now that Ronnie is in the mind's eye, it wouldn't even be close. Dorian, except for 1993 and maybe 1992, would have not even beaten Gutler. From the front he looks pathetic except for the abs/thighs shot. His most muscular is grotesque and his front double bi is pitiful. Hi front lat spread is impressive, but his legs are not ripped and his arms are not impressive. Ronnie blows him away. Instead of showing everyone the B&W pics, which was an alltime best shape for Yates, why don't you show contest pics from 1997 and point out objectively why he would beat Ronnie circa 1998/1999?