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Re: Mike's A/B split for mass
« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2023, 03:41:05 AM »
Dorian + Mike the Kings of Mass !


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Re: Mike's A/B split for mass
« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2023, 03:44:48 AM »
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Re: Mike's A/B split for mass
« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2023, 07:03:29 AM »
Dorian + Mike the Kings of Mass !

meth head was a manlet. Yates got owned by Victor Richards.

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Re: Mike's A/B split for mass
« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2023, 07:27:27 AM »
meth head was a manlet. Yates got owned by Victor Richards.
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Re: Mike's A/B split for mass
« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2023, 05:16:49 PM »
Frank at 70 looked better than Mike at 45.

Mike and his brother both looked sickly at 45.  Was it worth it? 

Sometimes I think these runners who do bodyweight stuff have the right idea. Doing that you could look good on the beach and great in a tee shirt or suit. On top of it you will put the odds of good health far in your favor.

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Re: Mike's A/B split for mass
« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2023, 05:57:16 PM »
Mike and his brother both looked sickly at 45.  Was it worth it? 

Sometimes I think these runners who do bodyweight stuff have the right idea. Doing that you could look on the beach and great in a tee shirt or suit. On top of it you will put the odds of good health far in your favor.

Bodyweight or weights without being meth heads, over-dosing on steroids, smoking like chimneys, eating badly, and mentally ill would be better for sure.

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Re: Mike's A/B split for mass
« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2023, 07:06:50 PM »
Bodyweight or weights without being meth heads, over-dosing on steroids, smoking like chimneys, eating badly, and mentally ill would be better for sure.

My youngest brother was a meth addict. :'(  He took his own life because reality was too real for him.    And the democrat governor of Oregon and their legislature made heroin and meth "legal" for "personal" use.

Mentzer was an idiot for taking that (among a ton of other crap) shit.  After what happened to me I am just working as best I can to be at least recognizable to my family and friends.

There are many here that inspire me that I would be proud to shakes hands with. To them I say, thank you.  I don't train like Mentzer, Arnold or even Zane.  I train like you guys.  At little of this and a little of that.   Thanks again not only for being here for me, but for being here for each other.


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Re: Mike's A/B split for mass
« Reply #32 on: August 16, 2023, 01:22:16 AM »
Mike and his brother both looked sickly at 45.  Was it worth it? 

Sometimes I think these runners who do bodyweight stuff have the right idea. Doing that you could look on the beach and great in a tee shirt or suit. On top of it you will put the odds of good health far in your favor.
I have been doing mostly bodyweight exercises for a while now but still lift weights. The iron is addicting.

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Re: Mike's A/B split for mass
« Reply #33 on: August 16, 2023, 04:12:45 AM »
Ray Mentzer is not spoken about as much as Mike..but dude was strong !

A;B;C workout 


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Re: Mike's A/B split for mass
« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2023, 07:37:25 AM »
Mike is spot on here..
supinated chins or supinated pull downs are great for biceps / Lats.
mike was way ahead with his knowledge.


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Re: Mike's A/B split for mass
« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2023, 07:38:54 AM »
Dorian knew this too & built a solid back with his Yates rows...BOOM !

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Re: Mike's A/B split for mass
« Reply #36 on: August 16, 2023, 08:27:19 AM »
Mike was about my age here. He carries himself worse than my 75yo father.

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Re: Mike's A/B split for mass
« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2023, 08:32:04 AM »
Mike was about my age here. He carries himself worse than my 75yo father.

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so apart from insulting the man..what is your opinions on his training, this is what the thread is about asshole  ::)

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Re: Mike's A/B split for mass
« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2023, 08:39:15 AM »
so apart from insulting the man..what is your opinions on his training, this is what the thread is about asshole  ::)
he trained like everyone else.

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Re: Mike's A/B split for mass
« Reply #39 on: August 16, 2023, 08:56:09 AM »
He has as many Sandows as Mike

I heard Mike was robbed , a Sandow  was literally taken away from him…..
Not sure what year it was though.   

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Re: Mike's A/B split for mass
« Reply #40 on: August 16, 2023, 09:57:33 AM »
I heard Mike was robbed , a Sandow  was literally taken away from him…..
Not sure what year it was though.

I think some relatively unknown lean, dry actor came in at the last minute and “stole” it from Mike

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Re: Mike's A/B split for mass
« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2023, 10:14:58 AM »
I think some relatively unknown lean, dry actor came in at the last minute and “stole” it from Mike
the one who was more than just a "friend" for Paul Graham ? :-X

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Re: Mike's A/B split for mass
« Reply #42 on: August 16, 2023, 10:38:50 AM »
the one who was more than just a "friend" for Paul Graham ? :-X

According to reliable Getbig sources

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Re: Mike's A/B split for mass
« Reply #43 on: August 16, 2023, 10:44:29 AM »
According to reliable Getbig sources

God you are stupid.. :D 
muscle,smoke & mirrors ..read it bro  ;)

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Re: Mike's A/B split for mass
« Reply #44 on: August 16, 2023, 05:30:50 PM »
I have been doing mostly bodyweight exercises for a while now but still lift weights. The iron is addicting.

I got interested in weights because Weider was headquartered in NJ in my hometown when I was a kid. They gave me stacks of free magazines.  Sometimes I wish I was never introduced to bodybuilding or weights. A man can look amazing with bodyweight exercise and doing cardio like running. Just look alone at the ruined shoulders, knees, elbows and hips from lifting. I won't even mention the bad hearts, kidneys and prostates. The list is long of famous bodybuilders who ruined their joints. In the end are we just insecure little boys trying to be viewed as men?  What's important in life regarding exercise?  I would argue health, fitness and a better life through fitness are more important than a temporary steroid physique. 

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Re: Mike's A/B split for mass
« Reply #45 on: August 17, 2023, 01:44:04 AM »
so apart from insulting the man..what is your opinions on his training, this is what the thread is about asshole  ::)

Insulting because his life choices lead him to an early demise? I am just stating facts.

Regarding his training, i have used it with some success because i never had the recovery hability to do volume. Now i do not;
Training to failure, even only in the concentric wears you down, muscularly and the nervous system. I keep failure 1 or 2 reps away. Keeps my soreness in control.

I still endorse intensity and small volume but not to the extent that Mike advocated.

For the ones who bodybuild for life, training to failure is not a good option. Too demanding.
Look at olympic weightlifting styles, Russian vs American. Russians train at 70 - 80% of their max, Americans train very close to 100%. Now compare both athletes career span. American is much shorter.



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Re: Mike's A/B split for mass
« Reply #46 on: August 17, 2023, 02:37:19 AM »
I got interested in weights because Weider was headquartered in NJ in my hometown when I was a kid. They gave me stacks of free magazines.  Sometimes I wish I was never introduced to bodybuilding or weights. A man can look amazing with bodyweight exercise and doing cardio like running. Just look alone at the ruined shoulders, knees, elbows and hips from lifting. I won't even mention the bad hearts, kidneys and prostates. The list is long of famous bodybuilders who ruined their joints. In the end are we just insecure little boys trying to be viewed as men?  What's important in life regarding exercise?  I would argue health, fitness and a better life through fitness are more important than a temporary steroid physique.
True, but most injuries are from bad training. We were simply encouraged to go too heavy.

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Re: Mike's A/B split for mass
« Reply #47 on: August 17, 2023, 10:25:08 AM »
True, but most injuries are from bad training. We were simply encouraged to go too heavy.

I think everyone wants to get strong when they are young lifting weights. That heavy lifting will catch up with you. I weighed 144lbs when I was squatting 400lbs, deadlifting 400 and other stupid stuff. I remember doing Chuck Sipes partial rack method to get a better bench. I hurt my shoulder so bad I couldn't train for many months. I was only around 19.  Never got over 300lbs bench. I lifted heavier as I got older but like I said before that weight will get you.

Today when I see guys doing partial dumbbell presses and partial leg presses with the weight of a car I cringe.  Make a moderate weight heavy through slowing down the movement and going full range. You can do also use lighter weight by making the rest between sets short. A light weight gets really heavy if you so something like 5 sets of 10 with 30 seconds of rest between. That light weight for the first two sets gets really heavy if you limit the rest.

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Re: Mike's A/B split for mass
« Reply #48 on: August 17, 2023, 08:40:37 PM »
I think I commented on this before. I knew Ray Mentzer. Would met him for breakfast at Rocky Cola in Hermosa Beach, CA. Also watched Ray trained at his gym. There was no such thing as HIT. It was all bullshit. Mike and Ray trained like everybody else. Worked up in weights until maximum weight for final set. Never told anyone it took 4 to 5 working sets to hit that final HIT set..

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Re: Mike's A/B split for mass
« Reply #49 on: August 17, 2023, 11:04:56 PM »
I think I commented on this before. I knew Ray Mentzer. Would met him for breakfast at Rocky Cola in Hermosa Beach, CA. Also watched Ray trained at his gym. There was no such thing as HIT. It was all bullshit. Mike and Ray trained like everybody else. Worked up in weights until maximum weight for final set. Never told anyone it took 4 to 5 working sets to hit that final HIT set..