Mike's A/B split for mass

[Rmj11]

First of all Mentzer thought he was better than he was. Notice how he bitched about the 80 Olympia being rigged stolen and whatever. BUT he thought his perfect 300 score was ok. NOW he should have complained about it because no one is "perfect" but he didn't. So he actually thought his body was perfect. Although he wasn't the first to get a 300 in competition. Carlos rodriguez ( spelled wrong) was the first but he didn't go around sayin "I'm perfect I'm the best etc"
                                          Now on to his training theory.  On paper it sounds perfect. Pound a muscle as hard as you can totally destroy it as fast as you can get it to go beyond what it can do and then give it time to rest and recuperate. Great . Sounds right BUT he fails to take into consideration that the body doesn't work that way. What about the nervous system?  The mental system ? Also after roughly 96 hours or so the body starts making the muscle back to what it was. So his way is pound the muscle let it rest/recuperate for way to long then do it again. So basically you are going nowhere making little to no improvement because you had to rest too long.
                                         So your nervous system mental system joints etc are being killed and for what?  Mentzer just didn't understand that. He was trying to sell something that sounds good to those that are to lazy to really train. He did the same as everyone else most of the time. Just like his dieting. He failed to mention his other drugs besides steroids that he used.  And he would say so and so improved so many reps and weight when he trained him that that was proof his way worked. Well hello there Mike. EVERYONE improves when working out due to they are getting used to the exercise and they find their form/groove. NOT because they got bigger and stronger. That comes with time. But to a lot of lazy people they think that is progress. Mentzer was out to make a buck but then he got wrapped up in things and the more people told him how wrong he was he went event further into insanity trying to push his b.s.
                                        I am from his era of bodybuilding. I tried them all . Bought the books courses and magazines. All the supplements too. Believed what I read. SMH. Scams just scams. No truth. Then I started figuring things out. Got my first d ball prescription at age 16 and never looked back. lol. The human body is in fact designed to work hard each and everyday up to a point. It will recuperate  so we can do the same work the next day. Of course it needs to sleep and eat. Look at construction workers gymnasts track athletes etc. They do their thing and they recuperate each and everyday and most of them have some good physiques . However look at long distance runners . They do too much too often. If they did it 3 times a week they would look and feel so much better. Their cardiovascular condition does not improve any more doing 7 day a week then it would doing 3 days. BUT they are all idiots anyways so we will stop with that
                                                 So train hard train often and train long ( up to a point. everyone is different but really an hour or so 5 or 6 days a week is usually about right) eat good food ( a calorie is not a calorie when trying to build muscle and or lose fat. Sure you will lose weight on the whole calorie is a calorie thing if the calories are low but you will lose muscle mostly and little fat) and get a good nights sleep. and you will grow.  Oh and take steroids if you want to grow big and quicker.

Great comment. 👍

[Rmj11]

I'm not reading a book.

And it shows. 😃

[Rmj11]

Mike was the King !   

King of failure. 😂

[Humble Narcissist]

King of failure. 😂

Literally and figuratively.

[JackTheRipper]

King of failure. 😂

Negative  comment bro... 

[Rmj11]

Negative  comment bro... 

Factual comment

[JackTheRipper]

Factual comment

The joke went over your head..never mind 

[illuminati]

The joke went over your head..never mind 

Of course it would It's a intellectual mental Midget     

[oldschoolfan]

i actually have a video from gmv video mike and ray mentzer in the gym, they did slow controlled reps. perfect form this was shot in 78 or 79 mike looked awesome in the video here is a link to it.

&t=3s

[JackTheRipper]

i actually have a video from gmv video mike and ray mentzer in the gym, they did slow controlled reps. perfect form this was shot in 78 or 79 mike looked awesome in the video here is a link to it.

&t=3s

Mike´s muscle had thickness & density..something which heavy Duty athletes get .

[oldtimer1]

i actually have a video from gmv video mike and ray mentzer in the gym, they did slow controlled reps. perfect form this was shot in 78 or 79 mike looked awesome in the video here is a link to it.

&t=3s

I have a feeling those slow reps were for the video shoot and not the rep speed they used in the gym away from the camera.

[JackTheRipper]

mentzer used super slow reps ( TUT )

Mentzer used slow and deliberate reps to maximize intramuscular tension and control. It was Mentzer's belief that if you can't pause a lift and contract, you used momentum to get there.

https://www.t-nation.com/training/6-heavy-duty-training-tactics/#:~:text=Emphasize%20Slow%2C%20Deliberate%20Tension,used%20momentum%20to%20get%20there.

[oldtimer1]

Anything taken to the extreme us bad. Like all these long distance runners. Some claim they are in horrible cardiovascular shape, likely to die "early." And of course the legs and feet are toast with osteoporosis. Tons of small fractures. I haven't verified everything here but it's been reported many times that endurance athletes can be quite sickly, gettting heart attacks. Then of course you have the completely decimated testosterone level. They have done a bunch of studies on Clomid for endurance athletes. And antidepressants to combat overtraining symptoms.

How can you be in horrible cardiovascular shape if you can run fast for miles? Strange statement. Running makes bones stronger. Yes, you can get stress fractures from over use can happen. Usually for runners that do stuff like 5-10 plus miles a day every day.

According to very involved stats from the Cooper clinic cardio improves health but extreme mileage decreases health.  Doctor Cooper himself that coined the phrase Aerobics as it is applied to cardio said a sweet spot for running is 15 miles a week of running but it's not a hard fast rule. He used a bell graph to show longevity of runners and their mileage.

The first thing they do with many people who had heart attacks or heart surgery in rehab is to get them on a treadmill. Bunch of studies with clomid and runners?  Clomid is a banned substance in the Olympics. Yes, extreme running can lower testosterone. It can also increase it. Going out for 10 miles a day is stress on your body.  Just like lifting with volume for hours a day.

Very involved many decade research by the Cooper clinic has the stats to show,  exercising using cardio just 30 minutes a day, you can increase your longevity up to six years and decrease your risk of all-cause mortality by 58 percent.

The best answer could be running like all cardio is good for your health but like a drug it must be taken in the right dose.

Don't get me wrong. Lifting and eating right is another part of the equation.  In the end the most important component is the luck of the gene pool you came from.

What cardio can do.
1. The heart is a muscle and it's strength is measured with how slow the resting heart rate is and the VO2.
2. Cardio decreases triglycerides which is fat in your blood.
3. Cardio lowers blood sugar so it decreases the odds of diabetes.
4. Cardio can decrease fatty liver and having a fatty liver causes metabolic issues.
5. Cardio increases HDL lipids.
6. Weight bearing cardio increases bone density. Of course extremes like marathon training can decrease it.
7. Cardio increases the health of heart capillaries of the heart.
8. Cardio decreases both subcutaneous fat and deadly visceral fat.
9. Cardio decreases depression and improves brain function. Source: Spark by John Ratley MD. 

I could go on but the few above come to mind.

[JackTheRipper]

How can you be in horrible cardiovascular shape if you can run fast for miles? Strange statement. Running makes bones stronger. Yes, you can get stress fractures from over use can happen. Usually for runners that do stuff like 5-10 plus miles a day every day.

According to very involved stats from the Cooper clinic cardio improves health but extreme mileage decreases health.  Doctor Cooper himself that coined the phrase Aerobics as it is applied to cardio said a sweet spot for running is 15 miles a week of running but it's not a hard fast rule. He used a bell graph to show longevity of runners and their mileage.

The first thing they do with many people who had heart attacks or heart surgery in rehab is to get them on a treadmill. Bunch of studies with clomid and runners?  Clomid is a banned substance in the Olympics. Yes, extreme running can lower testosterone. It can also increase it. Going out for 10 miles a day is stress on your body.  Just like lifting with volume for hours a day.

Very involved many decade research by the Cooper clinic has the stats to show,  exercising using cardio just 30 minutes a day, you can increase your longevity up to six years and decrease your risk of all-cause mortality by 58 percent.

The best answer could be running like all cardio is good for your health but like a drug it must be taken in the right dose.

Don't get me wrong. Lifting and eating right is another part of the equation.  In the end the most important component is the luck of the gene pool you came from.

What cardio can do.
1. The heart is a muscle and it's strength is measured with how slow the resting heart rate is and the VO2.
2. Cardio decreases triglycerides which is fat in your blood.
3. Cardio lowers blood sugar so it decreases the odds of diabetes.
4. Cardio can decrease fatty liver and having a fatty liver causes metabolic issues.
5. Cardio increases HDL lipids.
6. Weight bearing cardio increases bone density. Of course extremes like marathon training can decrease it.
7. Cardio increases the health of heart capillaries of the heart.
8. Cardio decreases both subcutaneous fat and deadly visceral fat.
9. Cardio decreases depression and improves brain function. Source: Spark by John Ratley MD. 

I could go on but the few above come to mind.

Nope a bike .. this is why nearly every cardiologist uses a stationary bike for their tests.

[IroNat]

First of all Mentzer thought he was better than he was. Notice how he bitched about the 80 Olympia being rigged stolen and whatever. BUT he thought his perfect 300 score was ok. NOW he should have complained about it because no one is "perfect" but he didn't. So he actually thought his body was perfect. Although he wasn't the first to get a 300 in competition. Carlos rodriguez ( spelled wrong) was the first but he didn't go around sayin "I'm perfect I'm the best etc"
                                          Now on to his training theory.  On paper it sounds perfect. Pound a muscle as hard as you can totally destroy it as fast as you can get it to go beyond what it can do and then give it time to rest and recuperate. Great . Sounds right BUT he fails to take into consideration that the body doesn't work that way. What about the nervous system?  The mental system ? Also after roughly 96 hours or so the body starts making the muscle back to what it was. So his way is pound the muscle let it rest/recuperate for way to long then do it again. So basically you are going nowhere making little to no improvement because you had to rest too long.
                                         So your nervous system mental system joints etc are being killed and for what?  Mentzer just didn't understand that. He was trying to sell something that sounds good to those that are to lazy to really train. He did the same as everyone else most of the time. Just like his dieting. He failed to mention his other drugs besides steroids that he used.  And he would say so and so improved so many reps and weight when he trained him that that was proof his way worked. Well hello there Mike. EVERYONE improves when working out due to they are getting used to the exercise and they find their form/groove. NOT because they got bigger and stronger. That comes with time. But to a lot of lazy people they think that is progress. Mentzer was out to make a buck but then he got wrapped up in things and the more people told him how wrong he was he went event further into insanity trying to push his b.s.
                                        I am from his era of bodybuilding. I tried them all . Bought the books courses and magazines. All the supplements too. Believed what I read. SMH. Scams just scams. No truth. Then I started figuring things out. Got my first d ball prescription at age 16 and never looked back. lol. The human body is in fact designed to work hard each and everyday up to a point. It will recuperate  so we can do the same work the next day. Of course it needs to sleep and eat. Look at construction workers gymnasts track athletes etc. They do their thing and they recuperate each and everyday and most of them have some good physiques . However look at long distance runners . They do too much too often. If they did it 3 times a week they would look and feel so much better. Their cardiovascular condition does not improve any more doing 7 day a week then it would doing 3 days. BUT they are all idiots anyways so we will stop with that
                                                 So train hard train often and train long ( up to a point. everyone is different but really an hour or so 5 or 6 days a week is usually about right) eat good food ( a calorie is not a calorie when trying to build muscle and or lose fat. Sure you will lose weight on the whole calorie is a calorie thing if the calories are low but you will lose muscle mostly and little fat) and get a good nights sleep. and you will grow.  Oh and take steroids if you want to grow big and quicker.

Good post.

[IroNat]

I got interested in weights because Weider was headquartered in NJ in my hometown when I was a kid. They gave me stacks of free magazines. Sometimes I wish I was never introduced to bodybuilding or weights. A man can look amazing with bodyweight exercise and doing cardio like running. Just look alone at the ruined shoulders, knees, elbows and hips from lifting. I won't even mention the bad hearts, kidneys and prostates. The list is long of famous bodybuilders who ruined their joints. In the end are we just insecure little boys trying to be viewed as men?  What's important in life regarding exercise?  I would argue health, fitness and a better life through fitness are more important than a temporary steroid physique. 

That must have been cool.  Did you meet any famous bb's?

[JackTheRipper]

First of all Mentzer thought he was better than he was. Notice how he bitched about the 80 Olympia being rigged stolen and whatever. BUT he thought his perfect 300 score was ok. NOW he should have complained about it because no one is "perfect" but he didn't. So he actually thought his body was perfect. Although he wasn't the first to get a 300 in competition. Carlos rodriguez ( spelled wrong) was the first but he didn't go around sayin "I'm perfect I'm the best etc"
                                          Now on to his training theory.  On paper it sounds perfect. Pound a muscle as hard as you can totally destroy it as fast as you can get it to go beyond what it can do and then give it time to rest and recuperate. Great . Sounds right BUT he fails to take into consideration that the body doesn't work that way. What about the nervous system?  The mental system ? Also after roughly 96 hours or so the body starts making the muscle back to what it was. So his way is pound the muscle let it rest/recuperate for way to long then do it again. So basically you are going nowhere making little to no improvement because you had to rest too long.
                                         So your nervous system mental system joints etc are being killed and for what?  Mentzer just didn't understand that. He was trying to sell something that sounds good to those that are to lazy to really train. He did the same as everyone else most of the time. Just like his dieting. He failed to mention his other drugs besides steroids that he used.  And he would say so and so improved so many reps and weight when he trained him that that was proof his way worked. Well hello there Mike. EVERYONE improves when working out due to they are getting used to the exercise and they find their form/groove. NOT because they got bigger and stronger. That comes with time. But to a lot of lazy people they think that is progress. Mentzer was out to make a buck but then he got wrapped up in things and the more people told him how wrong he was he went event further into insanity trying to push his b.s.
                                        I am from his era of bodybuilding. I tried them all . Bought the books courses and magazines. All the supplements too. Believed what I read. SMH. Scams just scams. No truth. Then I started figuring things out. Got my first d ball prescription at age 16 and never looked back. lol. The human body is in fact designed to work hard each and everyday up to a point. It will recuperate  so we can do the same work the next day. Of course it needs to sleep and eat. Look at construction workers gymnasts track athletes etc. They do their thing and they recuperate each and everyday and most of them have some good physiques . However look at long distance runners . They do too much too often. If they did it 3 times a week they would look and feel so much better. Their cardiovascular condition does not improve any more doing 7 day a week then it would doing 3 days. BUT they are all idiots anyways so we will stop with that
                                                 So train hard train often and train long ( up to a point. everyone is different but really an hour or so 5 or 6 days a week is usually about right) eat good food ( a calorie is not a calorie when trying to build muscle and or lose fat. Sure you will lose weight on the whole calorie is a calorie thing if the calories are low but you will lose muscle mostly and little fat) and get a good nights sleep. and you will grow.  Oh and take steroids if you want to grow big and quicker.

Have you competed at his level & had as you wrote a 300 "perfect" score?
just curious 

[ProudVirgin69]

Nope a bike .. this is why nearly every cardiologist uses a stationary bike for their tests.

In the US, treadmill is the exercise modality of choice for cardiac stress tests.  Stationary bike has some advantages but it is ultimately dependent on the strength and endurance of the quadriceps muscles.  For those not accustomed to riding a bicycle, they are likely to be limited by discomfort in these muscles and will quit before reaching maximum oxygen uptake.

[JackTheRipper]

In the US, treadmill is the exercise modality of choice for cardiac stress tests.  Stationary bike has some advantages but it is ultimately dependent on the strength and endurance of the quadriceps muscles.  For those not accustomed to riding a bicycle, they are likely to be limited by discomfort in these muscles and will quit before reaching maximum oxygen uptake.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/stress-test/about/pac-20385234#:~:text=They%20record%20the%20heart's%20rhythm,takes%20only%20around%2015%20minutes.

[IroNat]

People have had heart attacks during stress tests.
They are foolish to do and prove nothing.

[JackTheRipper]

People have had heart attacks during stress tests.
They are foolish to do and prove nothing.

If that was the case then they clearly were ill before the tests & the people were not supervised correctly. Simple as that.
Nothing sinister

[IroNat]

If that was the case then they clearly were ill before the tests & the people were not supervised correctly. Simple as that.
Nothing sinister

No, it's evill.

Stress tests just put stress on your heart with great risk.

An EKG is much better with no danger.

[JackTheRipper]

No, it's evill.

Stress tests just put stress on your heart for a purpose.

An EKG is much better with no danger.

exactly !

[IroNat]

exactly !

See my edit.

And don't argue with me.

[JackTheRipper]

the only other alternative is to have this .. i know because i have had this check up.
They can go into your artery near your groin or wrist.