Mentzer on Nutrition

[joswift]

Mike said he would burn fat even though he was eating carrot cake

he left the chip pan on....

[pamith]

he left the chip pan on....

Bro...

[Thin Lizzy]

The discussion ignores the satiety effects of the macros. No one ever got fat eating egg whites and skinless chicken breast. You can’t eat a surplus of just protein. So, that leaves Fats and carbs. Most high calorie palatable foods have a combo of both: Pizza, Ice Cream, Burger and Fries, Cake, Cookies.

IMO, it’s better to target carbs as you wouldn’t eat butter or cream cheese straight but you can eat a lot of bread.

[Humble Narcissist]

He isn't wrong. It's calories in and calories out. Guys lose weight on low carb diets because they are eating less calories. Also, the lower carbs make you lose water. Ask yourself if you went on a low carb diet but increased your calories by 500 a day would you lose weight?

This^

[Rmj11]

He isn't wrong. It's calories in and calories out. Guys lose weight on low carb diets because they are eating less calories. Also, the lower carbs make you lose water. Ask yourself if you went on a low carb diet but increased your calories by 500 a day would you lose weight?

So if you were to eat nothing but sugar you would lose weight and maintain or even gain muscle because a calorie is a calorie, huh?

[The Scott]

So if you were to eat nothing but sugar you would lose weight and maintain or even gain muscle because a calorie is a calorie, huh?

A calories is a measure of energy potential if you will, not an indicator of nutritional value.  You already know the answer to your silly query. 

So if you continue to eat shit, will you gain credence for your idiocy because the wisdom of a fool is still "wisdom" in your eyes, huh?

[Rmj11]

A calories is a measure of energy potential if you will, not an indicator of nutritional value.  You already know the answer to your silly query. 

So if you continue to eat shit, will you gain credence for your idiocy because the wisdom of a fool is still "wisdom" in your eyes, huh?

Nope. Now, answer my question.

[The Scott]

Nope. Now, answer my question.

I have.  You are playing the role of an ignorant child which is something I detest.  In plain speak, you will do as you wish regardless of the truth of my words.

[Rmj11]

I have.  You are playing the role of an ignorant child which is something I detest.  In plain speak, you will do as you wish regardless of the truth of my words.

You haven't. Answer the question.

[Humble Narcissist]

So if you were to eat nothing but sugar you would lose weight and maintain or even gain muscle because a calorie is a calorie, huh?

Yes, you would lose weight if the calories were low. There was a university experiment where a professor ate nothing but ice cream for over a month and he lost weight, his blood pressure and cholesterol improved as well. It wouldn't be healthy and you'd feel like shit but you would lose weight.

[Rmj11]

Yes, you would lose weight if the calories were low. There was a university experiment where a professor ate nothing but ice cream for over a month and he lost weight, his blood pressure and cholesterol improved as well. It wouldn't be healthy and you'd feel like shit but you would lose weight.

But not all of it fat. Losing weight and losing bodyfat are too different things. People who lose weight end up looking like a smaller version of their fat selves. Skinny fat.

Losing bodyfat is maintaining lean body tissue while eating foods that will help in building/maintaining muscle whole doing a combination of weight resistance and cardiomif needed.

So a calorie isn't just a calorie. Nutrients play an important part too.

[Humble Narcissist]

But not all of it fat. Losing weight and losing bodyfat are too different things. People who lose weight end up looking like a smaller version of their fat selves. Skinny fat.

Losing bodyfat is maintaining lean body tissue while eating foods that will help in building/maintaining muscle whole doing a combination of weight resistance and cardiomif needed.

So a calorie isn't just a calorie. Nutrients play an important part too.

You asked for an example.

[Rmj11]

You asked for an example.

Yes but the point was a calorie is not a calorie when it comes to building muscle and losing fat which old meth head was claiming.

[Humble Narcissist]

Yes but the point was a calorie is not a calorie when it comes to building muscle and losing fat which old meth head was claiming.

But almost no one would ever eat an all sugar diet. A typical diet of different foods will suit anyone except those in the last few weeks of a contest diet. Mentzer was crazy but his 800 calorie a day diet was way crazier than his "calorie is a calorie" idea.

[Rmj11]

But almost no one would ever eat an all sugar diet. A typical diet of different foods will suit anyone except those in the last few weeks of a contest diet. Mentzer was crazy but his 800 calorie a day diet was way crazier than his "calorie is a calorie" idea.

But they would according to methzer because a calorie is a calorie, right? 😃

[illuminati]

I have.  You are playing the role of an ignorant child which is something I detest.  In plain speak, you will do as you wish regardless of the truth of my words.

Yes I'm sure it has the mental age of a child
Scan through it's postings all about Yates & mike he hates them
post's all sort's of here'say & it's only response when questioned
/asked to back what it's saying is -" Yates/ Mentzer/HIT fanboy &
your're triggered by truth "   

I can't & dont speak 1st hand about Mike as I didn't know him - I can speak 1st hand about Dorian as I did Know Him
& trained at his Gym , also know many who he's helped at PRO level
in UK & members of his Team who helped & advised him.

Yet RIM JOB 1001 knows nobody. 
Personally I don't remotely care how Dorian or Miked trained,
Yet This Fucking Moron is obsessed about it.   

[Rmj11]

Yes I'm sure it has the mental age of a child
Scan through it's postings all about Yates & mike he hates them
post's all sort's of here'say & it's only response when questioned
/asked to back what it's saying is -" Yates/ Mentzer/HIT fanboy &
your're triggered by truth "   

I can't & dont speak 1st hand about Mike as I didn't know him - I can speak 1st hand about Dorian as I did Know Him
& trained at his Gym , also know many who he's helped at PRO level
in UK & members of his Team who helped & advised him.

Yet RIM JOB 1001 knows nobody. 
Personally I don't remotely care how Dorian or Miked trained,
Yet This Fucking Moron is obsessed about it.   

Still triggered. 😃 😀 😄 😁 🤣 😂

[Thin Lizzy]

As an aside, I saw a vid in which Mentzer talks about tricep training and he he said to do push downs with a V bar, a straight bar but NOT A ROPE. He never explained why rope push downs are so horrible.🤔

[illuminati]

Still triggered. 😃 😀 😄 😁 🤣 😂

Your still an imbecilic moron
Unable to answer simple questions-

Keep posting your Baby girl Triggered replies , idiot.

[Rmj11]

Your still an imbecilic moron
Unable to answer simple questions-

Keep posting your Baby girl Triggered replies , idiot.

I've answered and you're still triggered. You big baby 👶

[illuminati]

I've answered and you're still triggered. You big baby 👶

You've answered Fuck All.
As you don't have any 1st hand knowledge or experience.
Go find another Muscle Mag article as Fact / Truth 

Did you Answer

Had you been to Dorians gym in the late 80s& 90's
Had you ever have a conversations with Dorian in his gym
Do you know any of UK PRO's personally that he advised
Who were Dorian's advice Team / help team.

These are just a few of the things you've Spouted your mouth off about
& Yet haven't answered a single one.

OH I KNOW BABY GIRL - IS TRIGGERED AGAIN. 

Back up what you say or admit you don't know its all 5th hand info.
Simple.

[Rmj11]

You've answered Fuck All.
As you don't have any 1st hand knowledge or experience.
Go find another Muscle Mag article as Fact / Truth 

Did you Answer

Had you been to Dorians gym in the late 80s& 90's
Had you ever have a conversations with Dorian in his gym
Do you know any of UK PRO's personally that he advised
Who were Dorian's advice Team / help team.

These are just a few of the things you've Spouted your mouth off about
& Yet haven't answered a single one.

OH I KNOW BABY GIRL - IS TRIGGERED AGAIN. 

Back up what you say or admit you don't know its all 5th hand info.
Simple.

I've answered many times. The fact that you get easily triggered by facts I've stated, some facts were proven by using quotes from Dorian himself, is hilarious. And the best part is you're still in denial. You're just a kid throwing a big tantrum. It's a joy to see 😃 😀 😄 😁 🤣

[illuminati]

I've answered many times. The fact that you get easily triggered by facts I've stated, some facts were proven by using quotes from Dorian himself, is hilarious. And the best part is you're still in denial. You're just a kid throwing a big tantrum. It's a joy to see 😃 😀 😄 😁 🤣

I'm not the one avoiding answering 
That is you......

Try answering instead of avoiding- post it up , Kiddo.

[Rmj11]

I'm not the one avoiding answering 
That is you......

Try answering instead of avoiding- post it up , Kiddo.

Because I haven't asked you anything. 🙄

[illuminati]

Because I haven't asked you anything. 🙄

You still haven't answered.

Me if its something I don't know 1st hand I'd say so. 
VERY SIMPLE  - Simple enough you're Childish Brain.