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Very interested to see all of the facts here.  If this man was old, overweight, walked with a cane, etc., why break down his door and shoot him?  Just arrest him when he leaves the house, particularly if he was under surveillance. 

Utah Man Shot Dead By FBI Agents Was ‘Kind Person’ Who Posed No Real Threat, Neighbor Says
Community reels after early-morning FBI raid ends with death of elderly man
By  Brent Scher
Aug 11, 2023   DailyWire.com
https://www.dailywire.com/news/utah-man-shot-dead-by-fbi-agents-was-kind-person-who-posed-no-real-threat-neighbor-says

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It was "freedom of speech" and "artistic expression" when madonna threatened to blow up the white house or when snoop dog mimicked an assassination or any other myriad of comments about violence were made when the last guy was President. When someone makes posts about violence towards the current administration they get assassinated Ruby Ridge style.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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It was "freedom of speech" and "artistic expression" when madonna threatened to blow up the white house or when snoop dog mimicked an assassination or any other myriad of comments about violence were made when the last guy was President. When someone makes posts about violence towards the current administration they get assassinated Ruby Ridge style.

Let that be a warning to you.

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Let that be a warning to you.
I don't need a warning to know that the alphabet army is used to do the democrats dirty work, suppressing free speech.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Free speech and death threats are two different things.  Having to explain this to you renders your faux outrage childish and comical.

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It was "freedom of speech" and "artistic expression" when madonna threatened to blow up the white house or when snoop dog mimicked an assassination or any other myriad of comments about violence were made when the last guy was President. When someone makes posts about violence towards the current administration they get assassinated Ruby Ridge style.

Katie Monson, Robertson’s next-door neighbor, said last week that she saw agents attempt to breach his front door with a battering ram before driving a tactical vehicle onto his lawn, close enough to pierce his front window.

She subsequently heard an exchange of shots before tactical officers dragged Robertson onto the sidewalk to wait for emergency medical personnel. FBI investigators spent the rest of the day clearing the home and photographing evidence.


https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-utah-fbi-shooting-4041e4375894c9b942648920cbb83d65

All this for a fat guy who walked with a cane? 

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Katie Monson, Robertson’s next-door neighbor, said last week that she saw agents attempt to breach his front door with a battering ram before driving a tactical vehicle onto his lawn, close enough to pierce his front window.

She subsequently heard an exchange of shots before tactical officers dragged Robertson onto the sidewalk to wait for emergency medical personnel. FBI investigators spent the rest of the day clearing the home and photographing evidence.


https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-utah-fbi-shooting-4041e4375894c9b942648920cbb83d65

All this for a fat guy who walked with a cane?


And made death threats against the POTUS and other members of ranking as well.  Why would you conveniently leave that out?

He fucked around.  He found out.  No sympathy. 

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And made death threats against the POTUS and other members of ranking as well.  Why would you conveniently leave that out?

He fucked around.  He found out.  No sympathy.

 ::)

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You sort of left out the fact he pointed a gun at agents too.  Wonder why?  Did you think no one would know?  "   ::)  "

Cherry picking what little tidbits to whine over while ignoring others that are worse never really works out.  It's a sign of "dishonesty".

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You sort of left out the fact he pointed a gun at agents too.  Wonder why?  Did you think no one would know?  "   ::)  "

Cherry picking what little tidbits to whine over while ignoring others that are worse never really works out.  It's a sign of "dishonesty".

 ::)

You're an idiot.  I have no tolerance for idiots today.  Check back tomorrow after I've had a good night's sleep.   :)

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Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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You're an idiot.  I have no tolerance for idiots today.  Check back tomorrow after I've had a good night's sleep.   :)

Says the cherry-picking hypocrite. “  ::)  “

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There is no reasoning with stupid.

You spelled facts wrong.

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There is no reasoning with stupid.

Oh I know.  Cannot reason with someone who lacks common sense.  He's just an arrogant, disrespectful little kid. 

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Generally speaking if a cop gives you an order, especially if the cop outweighs you by well over 100lbs right or wrong you generally should obey it.  File a report later if you feel you did nothing wrong.  If you don't, they almost always use physical force which they are fully authorized to do to attempt to make you comply.  Being a girl, old person etc makes no difference.  Girl was obviously a conceited snotty brat who thought she was untouchable.  Yes, if that was my daughter, I would of told he you should have complied and not been a snotty brat and she got what she deserved.

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Oh I know.  Cannot reason with someone who lacks common sense.  He's just an arrogant, disrespectful little kid.

Says the "dishonest" hypocrite.    ::)

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Definitely good advice.  But what about when they break down your door with a battering ram?  That's a bang bang moment.

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this tends to be the common theme on the forum. When a minority does something that gets police attention and ends up dead, the consensus is "Play stupid games win stupid prizes". But when it's not a minority, suddenly it's a poor guy minding his own business and the police are bad.

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Very interested to see all of the facts here.  If this man was old, overweight, walked with a cane, etc., why break down his door and shoot him?  Just arrest him when he leaves the house, particularly if he was under surveillance. 

Utah Man Shot Dead By FBI Agents Was ‘Kind Person’ Who Posed No Real Threat, Neighbor Says
Community reels after early-morning FBI raid ends with death of elderly man
By  Brent Scher
Aug 11, 2023   DailyWire.com
https://www.dailywire.com/news/utah-man-shot-dead-by-fbi-agents-was-kind-person-who-posed-no-real-threat-neighbor-says

He was assassinated plain and simple

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He was assassinated plain and simple

Oh, I can see how it is plain and simple to you. You boil everything down to simple. Makes it easier

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Oh, I can see how it is plain and simple to you. You boil everything down to simple. Makes it easier

Reasonable deduction at the very least. Are you going to try to tell me they know nothing about him before they deployed how many FBI agents on his house and shot him how many times? He was 75 and barely walked. It was a hit.

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this tends to be the common theme on the forum. When a minority does something that gets police attention and ends up dead, the consensus is "Play stupid games win stupid prizes". But when it's not a minority, suddenly it's a poor guy minding his own business and the police are bad.

Let's see how this is :

Craig Deleeuw Robertson
1. "nice guy" - whatever that means
2. fat
3. walks with cane

who also :
4. made death threats against the POTUS
5. openly plotted the death of Alvin Braggs
6. openly made death threats against Merrick Garland
7. openly talked about dreaming of shooting Newsome
8. Taunted the FBI online and made veiled threats to keeping a gun handy for when they stopped by again
9.  Pointed a weapon at federal agents serving an arrest warrant on him for death threats against the president, interstate threats and retaliating against federal law enforcement.

Yeah sounds like a peaceful guy with no ill intentions in his head.  Only someone willfully stupid or just intellectually dishonest would try to spin this into something else.   ::)

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He was assassinated plain and simple

Naw, he just tried that in a big town.


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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/fbi-says-utah-man-who-allegedly-threatened-biden-was-killed-after-pointing-357-handgun-at-agents/ar-AA1fh1Hq

Hardly looks like an assassination. But the shooting will be investigated. FBI says it was justified, at this point, there is no reason to believe otherwise. Likely, no minds will change if the investigation concludes it was justified. The Coaches of the world will simply discount it. We'll probably see some body cam footage in the next couple weeks.