Utah Man Shot Dead By FBI Agents Was ‘Kind Person’ Who Posed No Real Threat

[Primemuscle]

Definitely good advice.  But what about when they break down your door with a battering ram?  That's a bang bang moment.

No one is going to break down his door with a battering ram. Not his, not yours and not mine. That is not unless you believe Trumps garbage threats. "They're coming after you." Really? Thanks for the warning, don't mind if I ignore it because it isn't going to happen unless it is his door getting rammed.

But while these certainly are dark times for our country, I will NEVER give up on America.
Donald J. Trump <contact@victory.donaldjtrump.com>

This in my email today at 7:44 a.m.

"But while these certainly are dark times for our country, I will NEVER give up on America.
The more I see these rogue prosecutors weaponize our legal system to criminalize dissent and imprison their political opponents, the stronger my resolve to save our country.

Because I know that if these illegal persecutions succeed, if they’re allowed to set fire to the law, then it will not end with me… They’ll come for YOU.

Fear is a powerful tool and Trump knows this. He wants you to be afraid, very, very afraid. Sadly, for some it seems to be working. They are buying his treats of doom and gloom unless you elect him in 2424. 

[Dos Equis]

No one is going to break down his door with a battering ram. Not his, not yours and not mine. That is not unless you believe Trumps garbage threats. "They're coming after you." Really? Thanks for the warning, don't mind if I ignore it because it isn't going to happen unless it is his door getting rammed.

But while these certainly are dark times for our country, I will NEVER give up on America.
Donald J. Trump <contact@victory.donaldjtrump.com>

This in my email today at 7:44 a.m.

"But while these certainly are dark times for our country, I will NEVER give up on America.
The more I see these rogue prosecutors weaponize our legal system to criminalize dissent and imprison their political opponents, the stronger my resolve to save our country.

Because I know that if these illegal persecutions succeed, if they’re allowed to set fire to the law, then it will not end with me… They’ll come for YOU.

Fear is a powerful tool and Trump knows this. He wants you to be afraid, very, very afraid. Sadly, for some it seems to be working. They are buying his treats of doom and gloom unless you elect him in 2424.

What does Trump have to do with this shooting?

[LurkerNoMore]

What does Trump have to do with this shooting?

The man was a die hard MAGA idiot who was making death threats against Trumpy's "enemies".  Obviously he had mental issues that mitigated any type of consequences (in his mind) for acting out of loyalty to Trumpy. 

[Primemuscle]

What does Trump have to do with this shooting?

You posted;

Definitely good advice.  But what about when they break down your door with a battering ram?  That's a bang bang moment.

The treat you posted is a familiar one which Trump uses on an almost daily basis. A classic fear mongering tactic. One you and Trump apparently share. The post I made that you are questioning simply demonstrates a parallel example between your and Trump's modus operandi. It is eerie how much you and Trump are alike in the way you express yourselves.

[Dos Equis]

You posted;
The treat you posted is a familiar one which Trump uses on an almost daily basis. A classic fear mongering tactic. One you and Trump apparently share. The post I made that you are questioning simply demonstrates a parallel example between your and Trump's modus operandi. It is eerie how much you and Trump are alike in the way you express yourselves.

What I posted is a fact:  the FBI used a battering ram to break the man's door down.  That has zero to do with Trump or whatever the heck you are reading from your Trump emails you keep posting.  It's pretty hilarious that you get Trump emails and cannot stop talking about the man.     You clearly have TDS.  But you have plenty of company. 

[LurkerNoMore]

What I posted is a fact:  the FBI used a battering ram to break the man's door down.  That has zero to do with Trump or whatever the heck you are reading from your Trump emails you keep posting.  It's pretty hilarious that you get Trump emails and cannot stop talking about the man.     You clearly have TDS.  But you have plenty of company.

And they should have.  They had an arrest warrant and had given him the chance to come out peacefully.  Instead, he didn't and pulled a gun.  Bang Bang! Making excuses isn't going to change reality to fit your biased warped narrative.

[chaos]

Oh I know.  Cannot reason with someone who lacks common sense.  He's just an arrogant, disrespectful little kid.

Rumor has it he's actually an obese guy living off disability. Makes sense to why he posts 24/7 but it doesn't explain why he's obsessed with Trump.

[illuminati]

Rumor has it he's actually an obese guy living off disability. Makes sense to why he posts 24/7 but it doesn't explain why he's obsessed with Trump.

Who are you referring to ??

[chaos]

Who are you referring to ??

Lurker. Someone PM'd me that he was a fat guy that claims he is disabled.

[Irongrip400]

Worst case, excessive use of force. Most likely scenario, dude fucked around and found out. He should’ve complied, but probably wanted to die.

[illuminati]

Lurker. Someone PM'd me that he was a fat guy that claims he is disabled.

Ahh - who or whatever it is its clearly not firing on all cylinders

Wait & watch as I've trained the Nonce to immediately post after I do 😂🤣😂
TDS & IDS.

Rob / Bob  Is definitely a Queer & Highly likely a Pedo as it supports anything
Pedo related - Especially Pedo Pete its Idol.

Ha ha , That'll have the Nonce's  Pavlov's Response chomping at the bit.......
In 1..............2........ .....................3.. ........................ ....

[AbrahamG]

Lurker. Someone PM'd me that he was a fat guy that claims he is disabled.

About as true as SF1900 being a permabulking Asian.   

[LurkerNoMore]

Rumor has it he's actually an obese guy living off disability. Makes sense to why he posts 24/7 but it doesn't explain why he's obsessed with Trump.

Rumor has it you are a conehead with a 50” waist and lesbian cankles….   Oh wait that isn’t a rumor.

Just TDfS and TV static posts. 

[LurkerNoMore]

Lurker. Someone PM'd me that he was a fat guy that claims he is disabled.

Someone lied.  Most likely you.  But please share it with us. 

[LurkerNoMore]

Tiny Tony still showcasing his FlashRob crush.

[chaos]

About as true as SF1900 being a permabulking Asian.   

SF1900 is a bulked up Bruce Lee

[Agnostic007]

What I posted is a fact:  the FBI used a battering ram to break the man's door down.  That has zero to do with Trump or whatever the heck you are reading from your Trump emails you keep posting.  It's pretty hilarious that you get Trump emails and cannot stop talking about the man.     You clearly have TDS.  But you have plenty of company.

Fact, Trumps spinning the truth and making false claims "They are coming for you" likely led to this mans demise. Like ALL those sentenced to prison for following Trumps lead on January 6th, He was just another victim of Trumps lies.

[chaos]

Fact, Trumps spinning the truth and making false claims "They are coming for you" likely led to this mans demise.

Do you know what fact means?

[LurkerNoMore]

Do you know what fact means?

The opposite of TDfS. 

[Agnostic007]

Do you know what fact means?

Yes, but depending on the circle I am in I will be lenient with the word as the people I am talking to. In this case, what I said fits in well with this group. For example, Fact: Multiple people stated Trumpster was armed. Fact: FBI stated said Trumpster pointed said weapon at Law Enforcement before being shot. The fact anyone here is spouting "hit" or "assassination" is absurd. While it may take less than it would have taken to legitimately frame OJ. Simpson (I think it was 70+ people would have had to be in on it) assuming the entire FBI and local L.E that responded where all in on an assassination if something from out of the movies.   It appears reality is just too harsh for some people to comprehend so they automatically move into the fantasy world

[LurkerNoMore]

The truth can be very discomforting to the poorly educated who can't accept anything outside their limited viewpoint.  So they make excuses to pad the gap that their intellect can't bridge.

[Agnostic007]

The truth can be very discomforting to the poorly educated who can't accept anything outside their limited viewpoint.  So they make excuses to pad the gap that their intellect can't bridge.

You won't get coach to read the actual Transcript of Trumps call to the Georgia official, the same as you won't get coach to read Ashleys diary to determine if his favorite russian troll meme is true. Reading anything but a meme or headline is considered heavy lifting by him... he'd rather ignore it and post additional nonsense.

[LurkerNoMore]

This idiot has lived for 75 years, and did not know that pointing a gun at a law enforcement officer is a very bad idea?       He just wanted to be left alone to make credible threats of violence against elected officials and the FBI in peace. He didn't want to harm anyone other than all the people he repeatedly threatened to kill. Free speech and all that....

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The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) said its agents followed the Department of Justice’s policy on use of deadly force when they shot a Utah man last week who allegedly made threats against President Biden.

In a statement to Fox News Digital, the FBI said it continues to review the agent-involved shooting that happened at about 6:15 a.m. on Aug. 9 in Provo, Utah.

That morning, agents went to 75-year-old Craig Deleeuw Robertson’s home to serve arrest and search warrants after he allegedly made threats toward elected officials and law enforcement officers.

Robertson resisted arrest and as agents attempted to take him into custody, he pointed a .357 revolver at them," the FBI said. "The FBI takes all shooting incidents involving our agents and task force officers seriously. In accordance with FBI policy, the shooting incident is under review by the FBI’s Inspection Division."

The agency did not have any other details about the investigation.

READ ON THE FOX NEWS APP

But when it comes to when agents are permitted to use deadly force, the FBI said it follows the DOJ’s policy, which was adopted on May 20, 2022.

"Law enforcement officers and correctional officers of the Department of Justice may use deadly force only when necessary, that is, when the officer has a reasonable belief that the subject of such force poses an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to the officer or to another person," the FBI said of the policy, which can be found on the DOJ’s website.

Prosecutors filed a complaint last Monday in U.S. District Court, Utah district, stating that Robertson was being charged with interstate threats, influencing, impeding and retaliating against federal law enforcement officers by threat, and threats against the president.
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[Agnostic007]

Hmmm okay I'll believe you although 1000's wouldn't - 

1, who will be doing the investigation ??
2, why not release all body cam footage immediately ,
when it is delayed it looks like they're trying to hide something & or edit
the footage.


On a different subject - as a detective you cannot of failed to notice
Just how well My Pavlov's training has worked on The Nonce
WOOF WOOF the POOF POOF as much as the Nonce despise's Me
It's compelled to post 99% of the time immediately after I post 
I can't even see what the Nonce says as it's Blocked. 

Getbig certainly does have more than it's fair share of Nonce's & very
easily triggered Nonce's at that.
watch & see how quickly it responds in 1.......... 2............ 3..............
here here come on WOOF WOOF

1. The FBI Inspection Division and possibly whatever entity was assigned to the task force

2.  Typically there is a process. I know when I started in 1993 with a Municipality, nothing was released until the investigation was complete. Typically, 60 days. We thought it important to do a thorough investigation and have everything lined out. For example, sometimes bodycam footage doesn't capture the whole story. Interviedws are held to clear up issues.  But in trying to be transparent, certain things like video footage was pushed up to be released withing 14 days Sometimes earlier. What we found was it didn't make much difference. People on day 1 had drawn their conclusions. especially in minority involved shootings. Fast forward to 2023 and not much has changed. Only it isn't racially motivated bias, it's political. Not saying you are guilty of this, just saying it is what it is.

3. Addressing your earlier allegation, I know in LE history cops have been involved in bad shootings. Not very many were premeditated. Where my training and experience may butt up against say, someone who shoots guns at a range is, I'm very familiar with L.E. tactics, the number of officers on scene wouldn't faze me as the more the better, and I would wait to see if anything in the investigation contradicts the initial report before chiming in with an opinion that the FBI is now a hit squad.

 

[illuminati]

1. The FBI Inspection Division and possibly whatever entity was assigned to the task force

2.  Typically there is a process. I know when I started in 1993 with a Municipality, nothing was released until the investigation was complete. Typically, 60 days. We thought it important to do a thorough investigation and have everything lined out. For example, sometimes bodycam footage doesn't capture the whole story. Interviedws are held to clear up issues.  But in trying to be transparent, certain things like video footage was pushed up to be released withing 14 days Sometimes earlier. What we found was it didn't make much difference. People on day 1 had drawn their conclusions. especially in minority involved shootings. Fast forward to 2023 and not much has changed. Only it isn't racially motivated bias, it's political. Not saying you are guilty of this, just saying it is what it is.

3. Addressing your earlier allegation, I know in LE history cops have been involved in bad shootings. Not very many were premeditated. Where my training and experience may butt up against say, someone who shoots guns at a range is, I'm very familiar with L.E. tactics, the number of officers on scene wouldn't faze me as the more the better, and I would wait to see if anything in the investigation contradicts the initial report before chiming in with an opinion that the FBI is now a hit squad.

1. The FBI Inspection Division and possibly whatever entity was assigned to the task force

😳 Hmmmm no real surprise 🤬 Cops investigating cops how very open , transparent
& unreasuring - Is it any wonder cops are not trusted or believed- They do that same
Crap over here.

They should be investigated by outside body of people.