Author Topic: Utah Man Shot Dead By FBI Agents Was ‘Kind Person’ Who Posed No Real Threat  (Read 9241 times)

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Fact, Trumps spinning the truth and making false claims "They are coming for you" likely led to this mans demise. Like ALL those sentenced to prison for following Trumps lead on January 6th, He was just another victim of Trumps lies.

Those are not facts.  They are your opinion. 

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Do you know what fact means?

Doesn't sound like it.

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1. The FBI Inspection Division and possibly whatever entity was assigned to the task force

2.  Typically there is a process. I know when I started in 1993 with a Municipality, nothing was released until the investigation was complete. Typically, 60 days. We thought it important to do a thorough investigation and have everything lined out. For example, sometimes bodycam footage doesn't capture the whole story. Interviedws are held to clear up issues.  But in trying to be transparent, certain things like video footage was pushed up to be released withing 14 days Sometimes earlier. What we found was it didn't make much difference. People on day 1 had drawn their conclusions. especially in minority involved shootings. Fast forward to 2023 and not much has changed. Only it isn't racially motivated bias, it's political. Not saying you are guilty of this, just saying it is what it is.

3. Addressing your earlier allegation, I know in LE history cops have been involved in bad shootings. Not very many were premeditated. Where my training and experience may butt up against say, someone who shoots guns at a range is, I'm very familiar with L.E. tactics, the number of officers on scene wouldn't faze me as the more the better, and I would wait to see if anything in the investigation contradicts the initial report before chiming in with an opinion that the FBI is now a hit squad.


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Worst case, excessive use of force. Most likely scenario, dude fucked around and found out. He should’ve complied, but probably wanted to die.

You obviously comply when law enforcement tells you to do something.  But breaking down someone's door is different. 

I want to know what facts led them to use a battering ram to arrest an old man as the reasonable option, instead of just arresting him when he left the house.  He was apparently already under surveillance. 

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Those are not facts.  They are your opinion.

Why don’t you list the alternative facts then.

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Tiny Tony is absolutely desperate for my attention.  He can’t stop reading my posts and talking about me to others.  Strange behavior for a Hells Angel, US citizen, killer of many, washed up Pinocchio indeed.

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Tiny Tony is absolutely desperate for my attention.  He can’t stop reading my posts and talking about me to others.  Strange behavior for a Hells Angel, US citizen, killer of many, washed up Pinocchio indeed.

Babbling again Pedo Pete  ???
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Babbling again Pedo Pete  ???

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Another triggered post by the foreign c unts who can’t stop obsessing over me.  They obsess over me more than they do their pedo projections. 

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Apparantly he had a 357 Magnum pointed at the agents which is why they sent him to the Shadow Zone.  Also, he wasn't a "kind man" ...apparantly he had a history of bad behavior.   He was a 75 year old elderly man but I would have shot him multiple times if he pointed a 357 at me

https://nypost.com/2023/08/14/trump-supporter-craig-robertson-was-shot-and-killed-after-pointing-a-357-magnum-at-feds-fbi/


https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bc-us-utah-man-killed-biden-threats_n_64dd256be4b06b5d9bad9cbc
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Apparantly he had a 357 Magnum pointed at the agents which is why they sent him to the Shadow Zone.  Also, he wasn't a "kind man" ...apparantly he had a history of bad behavior.   He was a 75 year old elderly man but I would have shot him multiple times if he pointed a 357 at me

https://nypost.com/2023/08/14/trump-supporter-craig-robertson-was-shot-and-killed-after-pointing-a-357-magnum-at-feds-fbi/


https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bc-us-utah-man-killed-biden-threats_n_64dd256be4b06b5d9bad9cbc

Yes if he was pointing a firearm at law enforcement they should have shot him, but you have to put it in context.  The question is why did they break down his door instead of just arresting him when he left his home? 


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Yes if he was pointing a firearm at law enforcement they should have shot him, but you have to put it in context.  The question is why did they break down his door instead of just arresting him when he left his home?

They wanted the adrenaline rush & to play The Big I Am,
Prosecuter,  Judge , Jury & Executioner .

Yep sounds like the 75 Yr old was a Complete Twat, also.

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They wanted the adrenaline rush & to play The Big I Am,
Prosecuter,  Judge , Jury & Executioner .

Yep sounds like the 75 Yr old was a Complete Twat, also.

Sounds like he was a bit of a screwball.  But the Constitution applies to screwballs too. 

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Sounds like he was a bit of a screwball.  But the Constitution applies to screwballs too.


Clearly Not as far as the FBI hit squad are Concerned

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Clearly Not as far as the FBI hit squad are Concerned

They have really been emboldened since Trump was elected to do whatever they want.  Like sending about 20 armed agents to arrest Paul Manafort and Roger Stone. 

And remember this guy, arrested months after the alleged incident, then acquitted at trial?

At the time, an attorney for Houck accused the DOJ of targeting the pro-life activist “solely to intimidate people of faith and pro-life Americans.”

“Rather than accepting Mark Houck’s offer to appear voluntarily, the Biden Department of Justice chose to make an unnecessary show of potentially deadly force, sending twenty heavily armed federal agents to the Houck residence at dawn this past Friday,” said the attorney representing Houck, Thomas More Society Vice President and Senior Counsel Peter Breen.


Pro-Life Activist Arrested by FBI Acquitted on Federal Charges
By BRITTANY BERNSTEIN
January 30, 2023
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/pro-life-activist-arrested-by-fbi-acquitted-on-federal-charges/

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Yes if he was pointing a firearm at law enforcement they should have shot him, but you have to put it in context.  The question is why did they break down his door instead of just arresting him when he left his home?


I’m not sure what you expect. It’s a viable threat against the president, as much a douche as he is, but still warranted taking him down. Throw in that he pointed a gun at them and it’s a recipe for his death.

Would we be saying the same thing if some blue hair got smoked while brandishing a gun after threatening to assassinate Trump?

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I’m not sure what you expect. It’s a viable threat against the president, as much a douche as he is, but still warranted taking him down. Throw in that he pointed a gun at them and it’s a recipe for his death.

Would we be saying the same thing if some blue hair got smoked while brandishing a gun after threatening to assassinate Trump?

I expect them to use the least intrusive or violent methods possible. 

I don't really care what his politics were.  The Constitution applies to everyone. 

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Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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I’m not sure what you expect. It’s a viable threat against the president, as much a douche as he is, but still warranted taking him down. Throw in that he pointed a gun at them and it’s a recipe for his death.

Would we be saying the same thing if some blue hair got smoked while brandishing a gun after threatening to assassinate Trump?

I'll answer.  No.  Absolutely not.

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I’m not sure what you expect. It’s a viable threat against the president, as much a douche as he is, but still warranted taking him down. Throw in that he pointed a gun at them and it’s a recipe for his death.

Would we be saying the same thing if some blue hair got smoked while brandishing a gun after threatening to assassinate Trump?
Is that true?
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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I'll answer.  No.  Absolutely not.
Nobody shot the long list of leftist douchenozzles that threatened Trumps life, knock it off. You were supposed to be smarter than this.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Yes if he was pointing a firearm at law enforcement they should have shot him, but you have to put it in context.  The question is why did they break down his door instead of just arresting him when he left his home?

Seems you are asking the proverbial question... damned if they did, damned if they didn't. It's common practice to serve warrants on suspects at their homes. IF they had waited until he got in his vehicle, then initiated a stop, and the nice man decided to try and outrun them and subsequently an innocent bystander was killed or injured, guess who would be here asking why didn't they just arrest him from his home to lessen the danger to others. But keep nitpicking, he wasn't minority and he was only threatening Democrats.   

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Is that true?

Have you not read any of the articles posted?