Utah Man Shot Dead By FBI Agents Was ‘Kind Person’ Who Posed No Real Threat

[illuminati]

as investigations go, there is initial and final. Sounds like he was armed and they reported he pointed a .357 at him. Asking if anyone has anything concrete or real just underscores your lack of understanding of the process.

Was the nutty old man an immediate threat to Pedo Pete ?
Is that what they were afraid of , or to anyone else ??

If he wasn't  Then it Seems to me they just wanted to make a Huge Statement
To others .

or as Coach just said they could've just as easily & very likely without any
Drama or need to Execute him & picked him up any where out of his home.

[Irongrip400]

Lol, reading this thread and six pages in people are still talking about how this dude was assassinated and cut down without provocation. It’s like the parents/family of some black kid that gets smoked in the inner city while pointing a gun at cops and they all lament “why’d they take my baby, he was a good boy.” Same thing here, you guys should really take a step back and look at the facts. FBI came to detain a guy who threatened to kill the president of the United States and he pointed a gun at them. This really shouldn’t be up for discussion. It’s not Ruby Ridge. 

[LurkerNoMore]

Illuminati. do you have a link?

Let me help.   You know at his age his eyesight isn't that good.  Or intellect.   It's taking him a bit longer than usual to make up a lie or come with the usual lame excuse "I post what I want".   Pinocchio isn't that great with facts or conversation. 

[LurkerNoMore]

Ok so the Trumpturds like to claim the man was old.  He was fat.  He walked with a "Cain".




So.... was he strong enough to pull the trigger of the gun he was pointing at the agents?


It's hilarious the willful stupidity being projected here with these weak ass attempts at spin.

[Coach is Back!]

Ok so the Trumpturds like to claim the man was old.  He was fat.  He walked with a "Cain".




So.... was he strong enough to pull the trigger of the gun he was pointing at the agents?


It's hilarious the willful stupidity being projected here with these weak ass attempts at spin.

Here dick “cane” I typed this as opposed to the stupid voice to text. So eat me

[LurkerNoMore]

Here dick “cane” I typed this as opposed to the stupid voice to text. So eat me

Too bad you don’t have a retard filter on the phone.   It would save you from making posts that get your ass owned nonstop.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Yes if he was pointing a firearm at law enforcement they should have shot him, but you have to put it in context.  The question is why did they break down his door instead of just arresting him when he left his home?

Because he was considered armed and dangerous.  Once you commit criminal acts, law enforcement has no obligation to your personal welfare. 

[Primemuscle]

Trump sure occupies a lot of space in your head.

If he does occupy space in my head, it is only when I am posting in the political threads on Getbig. Outside of this 'joint', I hardly give him a thought.

[OzmO]

Wouldn't the FBI Agents have to fill out a report detailing why they shot him?

[LurkerNoMore]

Wouldn't the FBI Agents have to fill out a report detailing why they shot him?

Of course.  It will be released at some point.  But pretty sure pointing a gun at them was the reason.

[Primemuscle]

Of course.  It will be released at some point.  But pretty sure pointing a gun at them was the reason.

Ya think?

[chaos]

as investigations go, there is initial and final. Sounds like he was armed and they reported he pointed a .357 at him. Asking if anyone has anything concrete or real just underscores your lack of understanding of the process.

How dare I ask a question!!!
Says the guy that assumes Trump is guilty as soon as he's accused, right detective007? Must underscore your lack of understanding of the process.

[chaos]

Lol, reading this thread and six pages in people are still talking about how this dude was assassinated and cut down without provocation. It’s like the parents/family of some black kid that gets smoked in the inner city while pointing a gun at cops and they all lament “why’d they take my baby, he was a good boy.” Same thing here, you guys should really take a step back and look at the facts. FBI came to detain a guy who threatened to kill the president of the United States and he pointed a gun at them. This really shouldn’t be up for discussion. It’s not Ruby Ridge.

Since they drove an armored vehicle into his house, it's more like Waco.
 I'm all about stupid games/stupid prizes, but I want some sort of confirmation that's what happened here, seems  like LE isn't eager to make the point that he was armed. Reading some of what he posted on the internet, he was a moron for putting that stuff out there. He already knew he was being watched.

https://www.deseret.com/2023/8/9/23826780/witnesses-fbi-kill-utah-man-threats-biden-social-media

When Robertson wouldn’t comply, agents attempted to break his front door down, the neighbor said. The thud of a battering ram echoed through their house, at first sounding like a gunshot. The neighbor compared it to an “armory door. They could not get it open.”

That’s when agents used a breaching vehicle to go through the window, the neighbor said. Images taken in the aftermath show Robertson’s window shattered, with trim hanging from the frame and shades scattered.

Authorities have not confirmed whether Robertson had a weapon or whether he fired any shots. The New York Times, quoting a federal law enforcement official speaking on the condition of anonymity, said Robertson was armed at the time.

[LurkerNoMore]

How dare I ask a question!!!
Says the guy that assumes Trump is guilty as soon as he's accused, right detective007? Must underscore your lack of understanding of the process.

Pointing a gun at someone is a crime.  Against federal agents is a death wish.  That mus underscore your lack of understanding of the process and consequences.

But hey, why not put it to the test.  Walk up to feds and pull a gun and see if this incident in Utah was just a random happening.  Report back.  If you can.

[Coach is Back!]

He was assassinated. It was barely a blip in the cycle and gone the next day. Maybe when Agnostic was a cop and didn’t train (enough) he would shoot someone out of sheer fear OR he was trigger happy.

[Agnostic007]

He was assassinated. It was barely a blip in the cycle and gone the next day. Maybe when Agnostic was a cop and didn’t train (enough) he would shoot someone out of sheer fear OR he was trigger happy.

Coach, your stupid level is amazing. Your lack of self-awareness is amazing. Your ability to figurately take a baseball bat to the face and get back up to continue the same behavior is amazing. ... You have zero information about the shooting, any information available at this point indicates a justified shooting though I'll wait until the investigation concludes to be safe. Yet you, with less experience in law enforcement than a Cadet that washes out of the academy, you make such a moronic statement and are proud of it. Hell, you double down. I think going forward, I'm not even going to bother responding to your inane comments. They really are so off the wall stupid that if I just sit back and let you continue, it will be just as fun.  Maybe one day, you'll somehow smarten up and post things that aren't in the Special Ed Conspiracy camp though I'm not holding my breath.. You've been nothing but consistently ignorant.

[illuminati]

Coach, your stupid level is amazing. Your lack of self-awareness is amazing. Your ability to figurately take a baseball bat to the face and get back up to continue the same behavior is amazing. ... You have zero information about the shooting, any information available at this point indicates a justified shooting though I'll wait until the investigation concludes to be safe. Yet you, with less experience in law enforcement than a Cadet that washes out of the academy, you make such a moronic statement and are proud of it. Hell, you double down. I think going forward, I'm not even going to bother responding to your inane comments. They really are so off the wall stupid that if I just sit back and let you continue, it will be just as fun.  Maybe one day, you'll somehow smarten up and post things that aren't in the Special Ed Conspiracy camp though I'm not holding my breath.. You've been nothing but consistently ignorant.

Some Folk like to question things - why do you have an issue with That ?

Cops investigating cops yes your happy with that situation, very many
are not a smell a rat - as countless times the cops are found innocent
of killing / battering public & get a promotion soon after 

Do you think we're not entitled to express our views ?
And only yours are allowed & correct.

Before the cops busted into his house exactly who was in imminent
danger of being shot ? Pedo Pete ?

As an ex cop your views are blinkered & are completely Pro all things Cops,
Hardly a fair & open minded view is it ?

[LurkerNoMore]

He was assassinated. It was barely a blip in the cycle and gone the next day. Maybe when Agnostic was a cop and didn’t train (enough) he would shoot someone out of sheer fear OR he was trigger happy.

Oh, I don't know.... maybe it was due to the death threats - specifically detailing he was going to keep an armed gun ready for the feds - and then pointed a loaded weapon that did him in.

Yeah, that would be the logic conclusion that anyone who wasn't retarded would reach.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

He was assassinated. It was barely a blip in the cycle and gone the next day. Maybe when Agnostic was a cop and didn’t train (enough) he would shoot someone out of sheer fear OR he was trigger happy.

Martin Luther King was assassinated, John F Kennedy was assassinated, Malcolm was assassinated.  He just got shot

[Agnostic007]

Some Folk like to question things - why do you have an issue with That ?

Cops investigating cops yes your happy with that situation, very many
are not a smell a rat - as countless times the cops are found innocent
of killing / battering public & get a promotion soon after 

Do you think we're not entitled to express our views ?
And only yours are allowed & correct.

Before the cops busted into his house exactly who was in imminent
danger of being shot ? Pedo Pete ?

As an ex cop your views are blinkered & are completely Pro all things Cops,
Hardly a fair & open minded view is it ?

In America "It was an assassination" Is NOT questioning things. It is making a conclusive statement about an ongoing situation where any evidence/information available contradicts that conclusion.

[Dos Equis]

Because he was considered armed and dangerous.  Once you commit criminal acts, law enforcement has no obligation to your personal welfare.

What??  No.  Due process, equal protection, civil liberties, proper use of force, etc. all apply to people who break the law. 

We don't know all the facts.

[Primemuscle]

I read a couple posts from folks who have very different perspectives about this unfortunate event. They are interesting because essentially both sides posted the same thing which was the intent to wait and see what shakes out. This is an excellent plan. One which is rarely employed on Getbig. On the other hand, some of the other comments typically drew conclusions in the absence of facts to back them up. One person even went so far as to call the shooting an assassination.

[OzmO]

What??  No.  Due process, equal protection, civil liberties, proper use of force, etc. all apply to people who break the law. 

We don't know all the facts.

We don't until the report is made public and even then, we won't know for sure.  From what the article gives, it seems unnecessary to barge in and kill him.

Either way though, the headline sets the tone a certain way.

It could have said:

Utah Man Shot Dead By FBI Agents posted on social media about shooting Biden with his sniper rifle

Utah Man Shot Dead By FBI Agents Was reportedly armed and a firearms enthusiast

Utah Man Shot Dead By FBI Agents had a “patriotic dream” about shooting California’s Democrat Governor Gavin Newsom with his “suppressed S&W M&P 9mm,”.

[LurkerNoMore]

How about :

Agents requested man to come outside, man refused, instead pulled a .357 and pointed it at agents after making prior statements that he would have a loaded gun waiting for them.

[Dos Equis]

We don't until the report is made public and even then, we won't know for sure.  From what the article gives, it seems unnecessary to barge in and kill him.

Either way though, the headline sets the tone a certain way.

It could have said:

Utah Man Shot Dead By FBI Agents posted on social media about shooting Biden with his sniper rifle

Utah Man Shot Dead By FBI Agents Was reportedly armed and a firearms enthusiast

Utah Man Shot Dead By FBI Agents had a “patriotic dream” about shooting California’s Democrat Governor Gavin Newsom with his “suppressed S&W M&P 9mm,”.

I agree.