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Re: Do we apologize for the past?
« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2023, 01:27:56 PM »

And thats why i backed mKopa back in 2014.  The power grid in whats currently shithole countries is overwhelmed and lacking repairs.  They shut off the power for 6 hours every day to conserve and thats on a good day.  Other times, it coukd be weeks before they get power.

This set up the opportunity to replace the infrastructure in this homes with solar power fron mKopa and now i-solar.  Once they complete the installments,  they own the equipment or just buy it outright which is like 60 bucks.  They can charge their cell phones,  watch free tv, kids can stay up and study, etc.   They are now  also producing solar cookers and energy efficient wood burning stoves.  They are really rocking it out over there

Its a long way to go but hopefully by 2030, it will be an example of a country that practically runs completely on solar

Talk about fucking priorities , not even running water or a fucking toilet and they are using Smart phones..

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Re: Do we apologize for the past?
« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2023, 01:33:57 PM »

There's no telling where I would have been you goof.   Very few people in Africa live in grass huts anymore.   I would likely be working for mKopa given my skills

Are you reconsidering your move back to Africa?

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Re: Do we apologize for the past?
« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2023, 01:39:28 PM »
Are you reconsidering your move back to Africa?

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Re: Do we apologize for the past?
« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2023, 01:40:51 PM »
Talk about fucking priorities , not even running water or a fucking toilet and they are using Smart phones..

 They have wells in Africa and use rainwater catchment systems in the outwatd rural areas but there is running water and toilets in the urban area.  The real money is out there in the rural spots.  All of those untapped customers
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Re: Do we apologize for the past?
« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2023, 01:47:44 PM »
Are you reconsidering your move back to Africa?


Hell no...i see it as an untapped investment opportunity
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Re: Do we apologize for the past?
« Reply #30 on: August 22, 2023, 01:50:42 PM »
They have wells in Africa and use rainwater catchment systems in the outwatd rural areas but there is running water and toilets in the urban area.  The real money is out there in the rural spots.  All of those untapped customers
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Re: Do we apologize for the past?
« Reply #31 on: August 22, 2023, 01:55:05 PM »
Yeah, they’re doing great over there. I remember when Ali went over there and saw the poverty. His radical tune changed. He said he was glad his ancestors came over here as they did:

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Re: Do we apologize for the past?
« Reply #32 on: August 22, 2023, 01:57:00 PM »
They have wells in Africa and use rainwater catchment systems in the outwatd rural areas but there is running water and toilets in the urban area.  The real money is out there in the rural spots.  All of those untapped customers


Hell no...i see it as an untapped investment opportunity

Vince is all too happy to make dollars off the backs of poor Africans in underdeveloped countries.

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Re: Do we apologize for the past?
« Reply #33 on: August 22, 2023, 02:25:31 PM »

And thats why i backed mKopa back in 2014.  The power grid in whats currently shithole countries is overwhelmed and lacking repairs.  They shut off the power for 6 hours every day to conserve and thats on a good day.  Other times, it coukd be weeks before they get power.

This set up the opportunity to replace the infrastructure in this homes with solar power fron mKopa and now i-solar.  Once they complete the installments,  they own the equipment or just buy it outright which is like 60 bucks.  They can charge their cell phones,  watch free tv, kids can stay up and study, etc.   They are now  also producing solar cookers and energy efficient wood burning stoves.  They are really rocking it out over there

Its a long way to go but hopefully by 2030, it will be an example of a country that practically runs completely on solar

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Re: Do we apologize for the past?
« Reply #34 on: August 22, 2023, 02:27:03 PM »

And thats why i backed mKopa back in 2014.  The power grid in whats currently shithole countries is overwhelmed and lacking repairs.  They shut off the power for 6 hours every day to conserve and thats on a good day.  Other times, it coukd be weeks before they get power.

This set up the opportunity to replace the infrastructure in this homes with solar power fron mKopa and now i-solar.  Once they complete the installments,  they own the equipment or just buy it outright which is like 60 bucks.  They can charge their cell phones,  watch free tv, kids can stay up and study, etc.   They are now  also producing solar cookers and energy efficient wood burning stoves.  They are really rocking it out over there

Its a long way to go but hopefully by 2030, it will be an example of a country that practically runs completely on solar

Apartheid

3 weeks after blacks took over in SA they had rolling blackouts

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Re: Do we apologize for the past?
« Reply #35 on: August 22, 2023, 02:35:59 PM »
Apartheid

3 weeks after blacks took over in SA they had rolling blackouts


It was sabotaged by you sun crickets along with a lot of other stuff stolen or destroyed.  Invade a country, drain the place of resources and precious metals and stone, leave and wonder why the place is messed up.  But its getting fixed up.  It took almost 200 years for this country to treat blacks as equals
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Re: Do we apologize for the past?
« Reply #36 on: August 22, 2023, 02:59:45 PM »

It was sabotaged by you sun crickets along with a lot of other stuff stolen or destroyed.  Invade a country, drain the place of resources and precious metals and stone, leave and wonder why the place is messed up.  But its getting fixed up.  It took almost 200 years for this country to treat blacks as equals

Lol

80% of the farms under whites were productive

When blacks took over 80% of the farms were derelict

Did whites sabotage the farms too?


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Re: Do we apologize for the past?
« Reply #37 on: August 22, 2023, 03:34:38 PM »

It was sabotaged by you sun crickets along with a lot of other stuff stolen or destroyed.  Invade a country, drain the place of resources and precious metals and stone, leave and wonder why the place is messed up.  But its getting fixed up.  It took almost 200 years for this country to treat blacks as equals


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Re: Do we apologize for the past?
« Reply #38 on: August 22, 2023, 03:44:41 PM »
Lol

80% of the farms under whites were productive

When blacks took over 80% of the farms were derelict

Did whites sabotage the farms too?

You would think that at least once, somewhere in the world, when White flight takes place, that the area would get better or at least maintain the standard but as sure as death and taxes when the Brothers move in, shit goes downhill.

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Re: Do we apologize for the past?
« Reply #39 on: August 22, 2023, 03:54:48 PM »
Vince, have you seen that Chris Rock bit where he talks about how “You can’t have nothin, around Niggas.”?


“If you buy a big screen TV, you better bring that shit in at 3 in the morning!” 😂😂😂

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Re: Do we apologize for the past?
« Reply #40 on: August 22, 2023, 03:58:46 PM »

I know the stories that my grandmother used to tell me but my point is that there is no way to know whether a slave learned valuable skills or what not or even how they were treated.  As far as I know, my family was treated relatively ok and she never told me about any whippings or such but there's no telling as to if there was some corporal punishment....simply that they picked cotton and harvested peanuts and after the war, they stuck around and work the same fields for a paycheck.  Obviously other people had adverse experiences or simply moved away after the war   

Desantis needs to stop meddling into textbooks because he wasn't a slave neither and its going to hurt him very badly in the polls

The only way to determine if a slave learned valuable skills is fo find out what they did when freed, but that doesnt affect your life today.  Slaves were used for general labor back then, today they are sex trafficked.

It's a strange thing to be still focused on today and having that history shape someone's present day life.


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Re: Do we apologize for the past?
« Reply #41 on: August 22, 2023, 08:39:02 PM »
It takes more energy to make a solar panel than it will ever produce, nevermind adding in batteries.

Slavery is immoral but I'm not convinced it's unjust. If people let themselves be conquered then they kinda deserve to be conquered. If they don't rise up one and all then they deserve servitude. Go get an apology from your forefathers, who were apparently cowards instead of unenslaveable men.

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Re: Do we apologize for the past?
« Reply #42 on: August 22, 2023, 11:18:05 PM »
The only way to determine if a slave learned valuable skills is fo find out what they did when freed, but that doesnt affect your life today.  Slaves were used for general labor back then, today they are sex trafficked.

It's a strange thing to be still focused on today and having that history shape someone's present day life.


And thats the problem with Desantis fucking things up.  He's making it to where slavery allowed every slave to learn valuable work skills.  The idea of avoid "white guilt" is irrelevant.  Whats been taught in even the most racist schools for over a century is that blacks were slaves in this country and owned by whites which is FACT.  If the truth makes you feel guilty then too fucking bad.   If i was white, i wouldn't give a fuck or feel guilty about it because i wasnt a slave owners and the vast majority of white people in the country at the time didn't even own slaves...couldnt afford them.  but DeSantis thinks that white people are going to start begging blacks for forgiveness , shine our shoes and shit like that. 

I dont want anything from white people ...reparations, apologizes , or shit like that.  I'm pretty well off by my own hard work i've put in and i dont live paycheck to paycheck as i havent got one in over a year. ..just money from the business and itd not "going back to the community".   
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Re: Do we apologize for the past?
« Reply #43 on: August 23, 2023, 06:28:04 AM »
Lol

80% of the farms under whites were productive

When blacks took over 80% of the farms were derelict

Did whites sabotage the farms too?


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Re: Do we apologize for the past?
« Reply #44 on: August 23, 2023, 07:22:38 AM »

And thats the problem with Desantis fucking things up.  He's making it to where slavery allowed every slave to learn valuable work skills.  The idea of avoid "white guilt" is irrelevant.  Whats been taught in even the most racist schools for over a century is that blacks were slaves in this country and owned by whites which is FACT.  If the truth makes you feel guilty then too fucking bad.   If i was white, i wouldn't give a fuck or feel guilty about it because i wasnt a slave owners and the vast majority of white people in the country at the time didn't even own slaves...couldnt afford them.  but DeSantis thinks that white people are going to start begging blacks for forgiveness , shine our shoes and shit like that. 

I dont want anything from white people ...reparations, apologizes , or shit like that.  I'm pretty well off by my own hard work i've put in and i dont live paycheck to paycheck as i havent got one in over a year. ..just money from the business and itd not "going back to the community".

Got it. I didn’t realize that’s what you were talking about.

As far as Desanitize I’ll have to look into what he’s doing, how much influence does he have with a publishing company? School books aren’t really handed out anymore, everything is on chrome books.

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Re: Do we apologize for the past?
« Reply #45 on: August 23, 2023, 07:24:44 AM »



Farms were properous BEFORE white people ever set foot on it.   If you strip the land of its resources, then its takes many years for that land to be suitable ....sometimes even a decade depending on how bad it is
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Re: Do we apologize for the past?
« Reply #46 on: August 23, 2023, 07:29:27 AM »

Farms were properous BEFORE white people ever set foot on it.   If you strip the land of its resources, then its takes many years for that land to be suitable ....sometimes even a decade depending on how bad it is

So whitey planned to fuck up all the land knowing they were going to get it taken away from them 10 years later

Gotcha.

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Re: Do we apologize for the past?
« Reply #47 on: August 23, 2023, 07:37:43 AM »
Vince is all too happy to make dollars off the backs of poor Africans in underdeveloped countries.

Why wouldnt I??  Its no different then what we did here in the early 1900's.  Once you sell the people electricity,  you can then sell the shit they can use with it...tv's , radios, computers, air conditioners, etc. 

Capitalism😃
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Re: Do we apologize for the past?
« Reply #48 on: August 23, 2023, 07:43:02 AM »
So whitey planned to fuck up all the land knowing they were going to get it taken away from them 10 years later

Gotcha.


They sure as hell took a bunch of diamonds, rubies,gold, silver and other precious metals along with artwork and sculptures...all on display in Britain and sitting in places like the King's crown.   Those chinless fog horns need to give thst shit back or at the very least compensate those countries for stolen goods
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Re: Do we apologize for the past?
« Reply #49 on: August 23, 2023, 07:47:44 AM »
It takes more energy to make a solar panel than it will ever produce, nevermind adding in batteries.

Slavery is immoral but I'm not convinced it's unjust. If people let themselves be conquered then they kinda deserve to be conquered. If they don't rise up one and all then they deserve servitude. Go get an apology from your forefathers, who were apparently cowards instead of unenslaveable men.

Solar panels are cheap to make and soon, it wont even be panels anymore with the shit coming out.

As far as conquering is concerned thats dumb.  Not every country wants to go around and rape and pillage.
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