Casey Vs Arnold !

[JackTheRipper]

  

[Gym Rat]

Since I love being in the gym, I'd rather do it Arnie's way over Caseys.
"Machines only" blows goats...

[JackTheRipper]

Since I love being in the gym, I'd rather do it Arnie's way over Caseys.
"Machines only" blows goats...

well i use both machines & free weights.

[bigbychoices]

First of all. Arnold won the Mr olympia 7 times. How many times did mike or casey?  ZERO!  Arnolds body was a beautifully sculptured piece of art.  Not theirs.  Every ounce of Arnolds muscles looked great. Theirs did not.  This colorado thing was a joke. Casey was in the hospital with a severe infection from losing his finger.  So think about carb depletion and reloading.  Drop carbs for a few weeks  over train and you look like a aids victim. BUT then eat a bunch of carbs and do a  pump workout and in 24 hours you can "gain"
 a bunch of weight. So othen e He also stated he used drugs ( arnold did too)  AND he would train  A LOT more than what Jones thought. He would do it at night and mornings etc.  All this was was a gimmick to sell nautilus equipment.   And Arnold also liked to  say things to make it sound like he was a super human when training. Once he even said he trained 8 hours a day. lmao.   
                                         SO if Mentzer really thought in 28 days you could transform your body so radically with such little training etc then why didn't he take a month  and stop meth and get into amazing condition and win  Mr Olympia?  I mean cmon he would be regaining muscle and losing fat according to what he preaches so who wouldnt take 28 days out of their life to get big and muscular again?  Roflmao.  Mentzer was a clown. The more he was proved wrong the harder he tried to sell his shit.  Smh. Where are all these "clients" he trained?  There should be  some Mr universe and mr olympia winners saying they owe it all to mike!! Mentzere was a bitter egotistical person who really believed he was better than he was.  He reminds me of black people. When they get their way they say all is good and thats how it should be. BUT when they lose or don't get their way then everyone is racist etc. Menzter was the same. If he won everything was great BUT when he lost it was rigged stolen cheated . He was a loser from day one. He couldnt run with the big dogs

[Royalty]

First of all. Arnold won the Mr olympia 7 times. How many times did mike or casey?  ZERO!  Arnolds body was a beautifully sculptured piece of art.  Not theirs.  Every ounce of Arnolds muscles looked great. Theirs did not.  This colorado thing was a joke. Casey was in the hospital with a severe infection from losing his finger.  So think about carb depletion and reloading.  Drop carbs for a few weeks  over train and you look like a aids victim. BUT then eat a bunch of carbs and do a  pump workout and in 24 hours you can "gain"
 a bunch of weight. So othen e He also stated he used drugs ( arnold did too)  AND he would train  A LOT more than what Jones thought. He would do it at night and mornings etc.  All this was was a gimmick to sell nautilus equipment.   And Arnold also liked to  say things to make it sound like he was a super human when training. Once he even said he trained 8 hours a day. lmao.   
                                         SO if Mentzer really thought in 28 days you could transform your body so radically with such little training etc then why didn't he take a month  and stop meth and get into amazing condition and win  Mr Olympia?  I mean cmon he would be regaining muscle and losing fat according to what he preaches so who wouldnt take 28 days out of their life to get big and muscular again?  Roflmao.  Mentzer was a clown. The more he was proved wrong the harder he tried to sell his shit.  Smh. Where are all these "clients" he trained?  There should be  some Mr universe and mr olympia winners saying they owe it all to mike!! Mentzere was a bitter egotistical person who really believed he was better than he was.  He reminds me of black people. When they get their way they say all is good and thats how it should be. BUT when they lose or don't get their way then everyone is racist etc. Menzter was the same. If he won everything was great BUT when he lost it was rigged stolen cheated . He was a loser from day one. He couldnt run with the big dogs

Arnold simply had superior genetics.

[JackTheRipper]

Arnold simply had superior drugs.

Fixed !! 

[Royalty]

Fixed !! 

I like Menzter but I think that his genetics were not as top notch as Arnold’s... just an opinion

[JackTheRipper]

I like Menzter but I think that his genetics were not as top notch as Arnold’s... just an opinion

and it´s ok bro... just joking with you.
Mike was better in my opinion 

[Royalty]

Just to clarify, Mike did have great genetics though

[oldtimer1]

Casey Viator in his best shape ever was the 1982 Olympia.  According to David Young who trained in the same gym with him he was using around 15 sets a body part. Pure volume is how he trained for that Olympia. Young has since died but he use to write for Iron Man and also posted here under an alias.  Mentzer use to train with Viator until Viator went the volume route. Again, his best shape ever was the 1982 Olympia and he was using volume. He was ripped like never before and big.

[JackTheRipper]

Just to clarify, Mike did have great genetics though

Mike & Ray sadly were a shadow of their former selves but why ? the Mr O in 80?
probably many reasons which we all know.
one thing no one can disput is Mike at least was an intelligent man who loved Bodybuilding.

[Royalty]

Mike & Ray sadly were a shadow of their former selves but why ? the Mr O in 80?
probably many reasons which we all know.
one thing no one can disput is Mike at least was an intelligent man who loved Bodybuilding.

I will gladly listen to Mentzer interviews. I cannot stand listening to Arnold’s interviews.

[JackTheRipper]

Casey Viator in his best shape ever was the 1982 Olympia.  According to David Young who trained in the same gym with him he was using around 15 sets a body part. Pure volume is how he trained for that Olympia. Young has since died but he use to write for Iron Man and also posted here under an alias.  Mentzer use to train with Viator until Viator went the volume route. Again, his best shape ever was the 1982 Olympia and he was using volume. He was ripped like never before and big.

Can you,yourself confirm this ?
apart from all these old mag articles you always seem to quote , did you train with him?
just curious

[JackTheRipper]

I will gladly listen to Mentzer interviews. I cannot stand listening to Arnold’s interviews.

I think if Mike was around at his peak a few years later for example in the early 90s he would have been massive !

[oldtimer1]

Can you,yourself confirm this ?
apart from all these old mag articles you always seem to quote , did you train with him?
just curious

David was a facebook friend of mine too. So he lied when he said he trained in the gym with him? Why would he fabricate that?  All old mag articles are lies unless I personally witnessed it is your premise? So anything in the old magazines were the opposite of what they stated. Did I train with him is the proof you require? Why are your proofs on youtube valid using your logic?

[JackTheRipper]

David was a facebook friend of mine too. So he lied when he said he trained in the gym with him? Why would he fabricate that?  All old mag articles are lies unless I personally witnessed it is your premise? So anything in the old magazines were the opposite of what they stated. Did I train with him is the proof you require? Why are your proofs on youtube valid using your logic?

a simple no would suffice 

[wes]

David was a facebook friend of mine too. So he lied when he said he trained in the gym with him? Why would he fabricate that?  All old mag articles are lies unless I personally witnessed it is your premise? So anything in the old magazines were the opposite of what they stated. Did I train with him is the proof you require? Why are your proofs on youtube valid using your logic?

A great guy with no reason to embellish at all.

RIP

[JackTheRipper]

 

[Pet shop boys]

And suddenly Mike is all over the place once again.



WooooSHHHHHHHHH   Oct 4th 1980

[oldschoolfan]

Can you,yourself confirm this ?
apart from all these old mag articles you always seem to quote , did you train with him?
just curious

jack , i talked to casey a few times back in 2003

he told me he did train high volume for shows.  h.i.t  for strength and size

said arnolds precontest training was harsh and intense and would kill most people.

casey had nothing but good things to say about mike and arnold

[wazhazbin]

Casey Viator in his best shape ever was the 1982 Olympia.  According to David Young who trained in the same gym with him he was using around 15 sets a body part. Pure volume is how he trained for that Olympia. Young has since died but he use to write for Iron Man and also posted here under an alias.  Mentzer use to train with Viator until Viator went the volume route. Again, his best shape ever was the 1982 Olympia and he was using volume. He was ripped like never before and big.

That pic is from a grand prix in 1979

[JackTheRipper]

jack , i talked to casey a few times back in 2003

he told me he did train high volume for shows.  h.i.t  for strength and size

said arnolds precontest training was harsh and intense and would kill most people.

casey had nothing but good things to say about mike and arnold

Yeah bro...
but ya know Arnold didn´t always train like he makes out.
People like ric drasin also said this & he trained sometimes with Arnold.

[JackTheRipper]

insane volume workouts ! 

[illuminati]

Why all the concern about how Arnold / Mike / Casey or
anyone else trained it doesn't affect your bodies - worry about your own
training & growth, as that's what affects you. 

[JackTheRipper]

Why all the concern about how Arnold / Mike / Casey or
anyone else trained it doesn't affect your bodies - worry about your own
training & growth, as that's what affects you. 

exactly ..Heavy duty baby !