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Re: Casey Vs Arnold !
« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2023, 11:51:11 PM »
First of all. Arnold won the Mr olympia 7 times. How many times did mike or casey?  ZERO!  Arnolds body was a beautifully sculptured piece of art.  Not theirs.  Every ounce of Arnolds muscles looked great. Theirs did not.  This colorado thing was a joke. Casey was in the hospital with a severe infection from losing his finger.  So think about carb depletion and reloading.  Drop carbs for a few weeks  over train and you look like a aids victim. BUT then eat a bunch of carbs and do a  pump workout and in 24 hours you can "gain"
 a bunch of weight. So othen e He also stated he used drugs ( arnold did too)  AND he would train  A LOT more than what Jones thought. He would do it at night and mornings etc.  All this was was a gimmick to sell nautilus equipment.   And Arnold also liked to  say things to make it sound like he was a super human when training. Once he even said he trained 8 hours a day. lmao.   
                                         SO if Mentzer really thought in 28 days you could transform your body so radically with such little training etc then why didn't he take a month  and stop meth and get into amazing condition and win  Mr Olympia?  I mean cmon he would be regaining muscle and losing fat according to what he preaches so who wouldnt take 28 days out of their life to get big and muscular again?  Roflmao.  Mentzer was a clown. The more he was proved wrong the harder he tried to sell his shit.  Smh. Where are all these "clients" he trained?  There should be  some Mr universe and mr olympia winners saying they owe it all to mike!! Mentzere was a bitter egotistical person who really believed he was better than he was.  He reminds me of black people. When they get their way they say all is good and thats how it should be. BUT when they lose or don't get their way then everyone is racist etc. Menzter was the same. If he won everything was great BUT when he lost it was rigged stolen cheated . He was a loser from day one. He couldnt run with the big dogs

Another great comment. 👍  methzer was the king of failure.

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Re: Casey Vs Arnold !
« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2023, 12:19:54 AM »
Arnold simply had superior genetics.

Maybe but it's really down to how he trained. Lots of sets, exercises and frequency. Beats hit any day.

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« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2023, 01:28:44 AM »
Maybe but it's really down to how he trained. Lots of Drugs Beats hit any day.
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« Reply #28 on: August 27, 2023, 01:54:44 AM »
Casey Viator in his best shape ever was the 1982 Olympia.  According to David Young who trained in the same gym with him he was using around 15 sets a body part. Pure volume is how he trained for that Olympia. Young has since died but he use to write for Iron Man and also posted here under an alias.  Mentzer use to train with Viator until Viator went the volume route. Again, his best shape ever was the 1982 Olympia and he was using volume. He was ripped like never before and big.
I always wondered why Casey went back to volume if (s)HIT was so effective.

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« Reply #29 on: August 27, 2023, 03:39:29 AM »
I always wondered why Casey went back to volume if (s)HIT was so effective.
can you tell us how long you, yourself trained HIT ? what was your workout ?

I mean i am assuming you trained for at least 6 months on a HIT workout?

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« Reply #30 on: August 27, 2023, 05:39:27 AM »
   Have you ever noticed how quick the very few who do hit ( or at least SAY they do. Hard to tell because A LOT of people will just say shit to argue regardless) Now go to ANY gym. Do you see ANYONE doing hit?  NO. Now if it worked wouldn't these lazy sissy nancy's be doing it because it is so short and they can post it all to social media more quickly? Nope no one does it at ANY gym.  Lets just forget about bodybuilders for a minute. Power lifters do fewer reps than bodybuilders and they use maximal weights ( or close to it) more often. Yes indeed some built fantastic bodies doing that. But they want to get stronger not always bigger. SO if hit worked then they could go into a gym do one exercise of 3 reps and a forced rep ( with some loser screaming at you at the top of their lungs) and then take a week off and do it again. But they don't do they.
                                      Back in the day the guys would do heavy workouts maybe 4 days a week and then before a show lighter weights more reps more sets and more often.  Their bodies looked great  they changed things up and then backed things down. Nowdays these ass clowns all look the same just big bloofy slobs with guts bigger than their chests.   

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« Reply #31 on: August 27, 2023, 06:34:22 AM »
   Have you ever noticed how quick the very few who do hit ( or at least SAY they do. Hard to tell because A LOT of people will just say shit to argue regardless) Now go to ANY gym. Do you see ANYONE doing hit?  NO. Now if it worked wouldn't these lazy sissy nancy's be doing it because it is so short and they can post it all to social media more quickly? Nope no one does it at ANY gym.  Lets just forget about bodybuilders for a minute. Power lifters do fewer reps than bodybuilders and they use maximal weights ( or close to it) more often. Yes indeed some built fantastic bodies doing that. But they want to get stronger not always bigger. SO if hit worked then they could go into a gym do one exercise of 3 reps and a forced rep ( with some loser screaming at you at the top of their lungs) and then take a week off and do it again. But they don't do they.
                                      Back in the day the guys would do heavy workouts maybe 4 days a week and then before a show lighter weights more reps more sets and more often.  Their bodies looked great  they changed things up and then backed things down. Nowdays these ass clowns all look the same just big bloofy slobs with guts bigger than their chests.   
the only ass clowns are the people who spend hours in the gym doing endless sets & exercises for no more gains in muscle size than a HIT trainer !
HIT trainers like Mike & Dorian had mass & DENSITY

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« Reply #32 on: August 27, 2023, 08:08:00 AM »
Fixed! :D

Actually it's the so called hit guys who took more drugs than Arnold to make up for the lack of volume work in their workouts. 😀😃😄😆😆😅🤣😂🤭

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« Reply #33 on: August 27, 2023, 08:09:50 AM »
   Have you ever noticed how quick the very few who do hit ( or at least SAY they do. Hard to tell because A LOT of people will just say shit to argue regardless) Now go to ANY gym. Do you see ANYONE doing hit?  NO. Now if it worked wouldn't these lazy sissy nancy's be doing it because it is so short and they can post it all to social media more quickly? Nope no one does it at ANY gym.  Lets just forget about bodybuilders for a minute. Power lifters do fewer reps than bodybuilders and they use maximal weights ( or close to it) more often. Yes indeed some built fantastic bodies doing that. But they want to get stronger not always bigger. SO if hit worked then they could go into a gym do one exercise of 3 reps and a forced rep ( with some loser screaming at you at the top of their lungs) and then take a week off and do it again. But they don't do they.
                                      Back in the day the guys would do heavy workouts maybe 4 days a week and then before a show lighter weights more reps more sets and more often.  Their bodies looked great  they changed things up and then backed things down. Nowdays these ass clowns all look the same just big bloofy slobs with guts bigger than their chests.   

Exactly. Where are these big and buff hit guys? You hear about them but never see them.

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« Reply #34 on: August 27, 2023, 08:11:44 AM »
the only ass clowns are the people who spend hours in the gym doing endless sets & exercises for no more gains in muscle size than a HIT trainer !
HIT trainers like Mike & Dorian had mass & DENSITY

Dorian and meth head did way more volume to build up their bodies. Show me a top bodybuilder who had done hit exclusively from day 1 (and nothing else) to build up their body. I can wait...

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« Reply #35 on: August 27, 2023, 08:12:05 AM »
Actually it's the so called volume guys who took more drugs than Mike to make up for the lack of Wisdom in their workouts. 😀😃😄😆😆😅🤣😂🤭
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« Reply #36 on: August 27, 2023, 08:23:06 AM »
Fixed !

Funny how the hit guys look like crap compared to the volume guys. I remember when methzer stated that he saw a pic of himself looking fat and out of shape. He said he's going to get back into shape again. He never did.

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« Reply #37 on: August 27, 2023, 08:32:04 AM »
Funny how the volume guys look like crap compared to the Hit guys.  😀😃😄😁😆😅🤣😂🤭
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Re: Casey Vs Arnold !
« Reply #38 on: August 27, 2023, 09:59:01 AM »
Fixed!

Hit guys always look like crap. Hence why they hide themselves. 🤣

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« Reply #39 on: August 27, 2023, 10:08:24 AM »
Casey vs Arnold

I think it happened maybe , once?

A contest rarely mentioned so I don’t recall exactly which one was

I just know it happened in October , and it wasn’t a good story…  for Casey anyway. 

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« Reply #40 on: August 28, 2023, 12:40:31 AM »
can you tell us how long you, yourself trained HIT ? what was your workout ?

I mean i am assuming you trained for at least 6 months on a HIT workout?
A couple years. Sometimes I'm a slow learner.

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« Reply #41 on: August 28, 2023, 02:39:19 AM »
A couple years. Sometimes I'm a slow learner.
Results? workout?

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« Reply #42 on: August 29, 2023, 12:05:20 AM »
Results? workout?
Mentzer's training program in his 1st book, 2nd book, his final training program he had clients on and Sisco and Little's static contraction training. Results? I walked away and never went back.