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Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
« on: August 28, 2023, 11:39:28 AM »
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Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2023, 01:11:56 PM »


In order to win women’s sporting events…..

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Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2023, 01:33:09 PM »
Only liberal men are becoming/are weaker

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Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2023, 01:42:54 PM »
Hard to take some flamer named Jake Trans seriously   ::)



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Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2023, 01:44:36 PM »
Only liberal men are becoming/are weaker

Yes - The MSM / Talking heads listening Sheep 🐑  & Clowns 🤡
Are most Definitely.

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Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2023, 01:46:37 PM »
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Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2023, 05:35:16 PM »
Men are becoming weaker because life is becoming easier

Stop overthinking this crap

First world problems....

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Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2023, 07:06:49 PM »
Men are becoming weaker because life is becoming easier

Stop overthinking this crap

First world problems....

Does that alone explain a 50% drop in the average testosterone level and 50% drop in the average sperm count level over the past 50 years?

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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2023, 07:13:28 PM »
Does that alone explain a 50% drop in the average testosterone level and 50% drop in the average sperm count level over the past 50 years?

Chemicals in food / fertilisers
Oestrogen in drinking water
Deranged Libturdia Infested Brains

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Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2023, 09:42:48 PM »
Chemicals in food / fertilisers
Oestrogen in drinking water
Deranged Libturdia Infested Brains

I would think so.

It's not just modernization and technology.

Birth control pills flushed in the toilet that end up in our drinking water, as an example of that. I'm sure these things play a role.

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Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2023, 10:27:25 PM »
Does that alone explain a 50% drop in the average testosterone level and 50% drop in the average sperm count level over the past 50 years?

In a way, I think it does, yes.

Obviously, environemental factors play a big role in the drop of testosterone levels in men ( mainly endocrine perturbators.)

But I think we ignore the many psychogenic factors that play a big role in today's loss of men's masculinity.

The brain wiring of first world men is VERY different from what it was 50 years ago.
Nowadays, your brain is conditioned to react differently to external stimuli.

This phenomenon is partly due to the comfortable/spoiled lifestyle of today - times have become easier as many goods/machines/services replaced a lot of the things our pops used to do themselves. Brain chemistry adapted to this raise of standards of living.

Also, people today have access to unlimited sources of enjoyement, which severly disturbs, impacts their dopaminergic system.

Imagine it like a dopamine wave pool ( I stole that one from Dr. Kyle Gillett) - there are natural ups and downs of your dopamine levels/motivation ( the pursuit of the reward/ the ability to focuse our attention on outward goals — the things we want)
In the wave pool, depending on how high the peak is, you often habe a deeper throve, so you do not want too high of a peak. Most importantly, if your peak is extremely high ( from substance abuse for ex), you lose almost all the water in the wave pool, and then when you crash, not only is the throve low, you have less dopamine in the pool to begin with.
Dopamine receptors are extremely sensitive, meaning the depth of the pool can change really quickly, so you wanna have that happy medium where your are fairly near the top but not so near the top that the depth of the pool is going to go down.

At the same time, your role and duties as a man are decreased and discouraged. A strong, unhealthy emphasize is put on your emotions. Repeating relentlessly that your do have FEELINGS and that they matter ! This leaves the door open to many "imaginary" mental illnesses, excuses and victimization, instead of the masculine concepts of accountability and responsibility.

Combine all these factors tohether and you get big fat, entitled crybabies with absolutely zero emotional or physical RESILIENCE.

Male drive, motivation, positive aggression, physicality and dominance are all destroyed with psycho-social tactical nukes.

Im no endocrinologist, but I cant imagine it has no influence on our hormonal profile.

Again, first-fucking-world problems

Just my opinion

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Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2023, 10:31:42 PM »
Only liberal men are becoming/are weaker

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I said I’m listening

She said she hugged a liberal male

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Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2023, 11:09:47 PM »
In a way, I think it does, yes.

Obviously, environemental factors play a role in the drop of testosterone levels in men ( mainly endocrine perturbators.)

But I think we ignore the many psychogenic sources that play a big role in today's emasculation of men.

The brain wiring of first world men is VERY different what it was 50 years ago.

Nowadays, your brain is conditioned to react differently to external stimuli.

This phenomenon is partly due to the comfortable/spoiled lifestyle of today - the world has become softer and the brain adapted.

Also, people today have access to unlimited sources of enjoyement, which severly disturbs, impacts their dopaminergic system.

Imagine it like a dopamine wave pool ( I stole that one from Dr. Kyle Gillett) - there are natural ups and downs of your dopamine levels/motivation ( the pursuit of the reward/ the ability to focuse our attention on outward goals — the things we want)
In the wave pool, depending on how high the peak is, you often habe a deeper throve, so you do not want too high of a peak. Most importantly, if your peak is extremely high ( from substance abuse for ex), you lose almost all the water in the wave pool, and then when you crash, not only is the throve low, you have less dopamine in the pool to begin with.
Dopamine receptors are extremely sensitive, meaning the depth of the pool can change really quickly, so you wanna have that happy medium where your are fairly near the top but not so near the top that the depth of the pool is going to go down.

At the same time, your role and duties as a man are decreased and discouraged. A strong, unhealthy emphasize is put on your emotions. Repeating relentlessly that your do have FEELINGS and that they matter ! This leaves the door open to many "imaginary" mental illnesses, excuses and victimization, instead of the masculine concepts of accountability and responsibility.

Combine all these factors tohether and you get a big fat, entitled crybabies with absolutely zero emotional or physical RESILIENCE.

Male drive, motivation, positive aggression, physicality and dominance are all destroyed with psycho-social tactical nukes.

Im no endocrinologist, but I cant imagine it has no influence on our hormonal profile.

Again, first-fucking-world problems

Just my opinion

Thanks for expanding on that, mops. You have given me something to think about.

My training partner told me we eat something like 1/5th of a credit card worth of plastic per month. Presumably that plays a role?

Would you say the psychological factors play a hyper-majority role, or that environmental toxins play no role?

There is a man at my gym from Ghana [same as IFBB pro Eddie Abbew], who was able to lift more than me on this chest press machine:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CwhGW8Ksjzf/

I was very impressed. I'm fairly certain he's a little older than I am, and in good shape [nice guy too - a nurse from Toronto, via Ghana], but I rarely see anyone do that machine loaded.

He has big triceps, and that probably helps doing it with the hammer grip. But when he loaded it up and did ~6-8 reps...it was surprising.

One thing that came to my mind:
Recent African evolution actually bodes better for producing higher testosterone males. Under the first world environmental conditions you mentioned, it shouldn't be a shock that White men are seeing such a drastic reduction in T levels.

That said, a 50% drop in ~50 years is wild. It's almost like we're evolving to be a totally different kind of human...and in ultra fast time by evolutionary standards.

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Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2023, 11:12:31 PM »
Men are becoming weaker because life is becoming easier

Stop overthinking this crap

First world problems....

There's way more to it.
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Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2023, 12:08:28 AM »
Has little to nothing to do with food or chemicals in the food/water. If it was this everyone would be getting the same results. Only Lib males get these results. It is all caused from propaganda.

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Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2023, 06:03:36 AM »
if I dont use fluoride toothpaste or at least that listerene with fluoride in it at least 3xs a week my teeth start hurting and I feel where I had fillings


when I was tripping balls I tried all this shit - I think NOT using fluoride makes you a weak bitch - same people saying this are the ones using SOY everything - and eat vegetable oil burgers

heavy metal poisoning is a bad thing - mercury in fish , exposure to that shit is terrible

but there is a large discrepancy between CONSUMING fluoride to where ti enters you GI track in large amounts and exposing your teeth to the shit to increase calcium ionic bonding or whatever

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Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2023, 07:07:52 AM »
Only liberal men are becoming/are weaker


i bet i'm stronger than you are

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Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2023, 07:35:55 AM »

i bet i'm stronger than you are


What age are you & bodyweight
& post your poundages

I'll post mine at same age
Bodyweight maybe different & is a Factor.

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Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2023, 07:43:08 AM »

What age are you & bodyweight
& post your poundages

I'll post mine at same age
Bodyweight maybe different & is a Factor.


Oh i'm not a world eater, my best meet total is something pretty unremarkable at 1655, when i competed i was 6'2 210(ish)

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Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2023, 07:46:16 AM »

i bet i'm stronger than you are

If you’re going to make claims towards a known poster, back it up with pics and vids.

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Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2023, 08:14:01 AM »

Oh i'm not a world eater, my best meet total is something pretty unremarkable at 1655, when i competed i was 6'2 210(ish)

Very Decent poundage !!



My poundages at around 90+kg Raw just lifting belt.
These probably my strongest lifts though have lifted more at heavier bodyweight
 

285kg squat - 630lbs
215/20kg bench - 485lbs
270kg deadlift - 595lbs

Many other poundages at lighter Bodyweights
that I'd also consider as strong lifts. 

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Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2023, 08:18:35 AM »
Very Decent poundage !!



My poundages at around 90+kg Raw just lifting belt.
These probably my strongest lifts though have lifted more at heavier bodyweight
 

285kg squat - 630lbs
215/20kg bench - 485lbs
270kg deadlift - 595lbs

Many other poundages at lighter Bodyweights
that I'd also consider as strong lifts.


that's insane at that bw. I could never get the benching down, 8 years ago everyone was big into arching and arching would always lead to an incredibly painful back cramp with me especially on the thicker comp benches

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Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2023, 08:27:50 AM »

that's insane at that bw. I could never get the benching down, 8 years ago everyone was big into arching and arching would always lead to an incredibly painful back cramp with me especially on the thicker comp benches

Thank's

I look back & wish I'd hit PED's hard - I may of got close to the magical
10x body weigh - Ahhh The what if syndrome  ;D

At much lighter body weight I had a good arch - benching 185kg at 75kg BW.


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Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2023, 08:42:48 AM »
Fact Check: Have Testosterone Levels Fallen 1% Every Year Since 1980?

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-have-testosterone-levels-fallen-1-every-year-since-1980-1738976


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Re: Why Men are becoming Weaker (Documentary)
« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2023, 08:48:26 AM »
Apparently, being a fat fvck adversely affects test levels:



Obesity: Unhealthy and Unmanly - Harvard Health Publications - Harvard Health

https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/obesity-unhealthy-and-unmanly



Obesity lowers testosterone levels. For example, a 2007 study of 1,667 men ages 40 and above found that each one-point increase in BMI was associated with a 2% decrease in testosterone. In addition, a 2008 study of 1,862 men ages 30 and above found that waist circumference was an even stronger predictor of low testosterone levels than BMI. A four-inch increase in waist size increased a man's odds of having a low testosterone level by 75%; for comparison, 10 years of aging increased the odds by only 36%. All in all, waist circumference was the strongest single predictor of developing symptoms of testosterone deficiency. And if you doubt these two American studies, just consider Australian research that found almost one in every seven obese men could benefit from testosterone replacement, a rate more than four times higher than in nonobese men.