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Re: The Colorado Scam debunked
« Reply #50 on: September 05, 2023, 10:34:42 AM »
But if no one trained HIT then there never were any HITters.

I however think there is a fairly large difference between HIT and normal training. Think about this: lots of bodybuilders, many at pro level, have tried "HIT" but if most bodynbuilders train alike with several pyraminding to one or two failure sets, does that mean they changed nothing? Why would many say it was too taxing to do on a regular basis. Some mentioned injury risk too, but the complaints were usually about how tough it was. So there is a difference no doubt.

Today Dorian says he would have trained less than he did which was 3-4 days a week. He would also do only 5 minutes of cardio a day at a higher intrnsity.

Look at this  You think Chris went this hard all the time while at Venice? For example @ 6:00
Chris would have quit when he had at least 2 more reps left if he wasn't "forced" lol



Dorian pushes his clients harder than he did in his blood and guts vid. The guy is full of sh!t.

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Re: The Colorado Scam debunked
« Reply #51 on: September 05, 2023, 08:11:57 PM »
Did any getbiggers splurge on the 180-day kit?

My favorite is the supplement administered with the rubber dropper :D

I tried the watered-down version (Phase 1) back in high school. The training was way too intense for a relative beginner. Plus, using their formula to calculate how many calories you were supposed to eat was the ULTIMATE DISASTER. I knew instinctively that I need more food than their formula supposedly recommended for me (around 1800 calories or so). But, I followed the instructions anyway, and all I got was SORE and TIRED.

Looking back, had I eaten much more food, I may have achieved better results. I was too young to know at the time that you grow when you recover and rest, not just be beating yourself half to death in the gym.

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Re: The Colorado Scam debunked
« Reply #52 on: September 05, 2023, 08:20:55 PM »
Danny Padilla said he tried both HIT and volume. He said he used heavy weights. I think the term he used that it was scary. Yes, to gear yourself up for failure every time with heavy weights becomes something to dread. He said he got way better results with volume.

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Re: The Colorado Scam debunked
« Reply #53 on: September 06, 2023, 12:27:01 AM »
Danny Padilla said he tried both HIT and volume. He said he used heavy weights. I think the term he used that it was scary. Yes, to gear yourself up for failure every time with heavy weights becomes something to dread. He said he got way better results with volume.
Yes, it's psychologically draining to train that way. It also puts immense pressure on you to have a great workout every workout, actually, to have THE BEST workout ever with every workout. This is simply not possible. This is why people stop training altogether. Arthur Jones would workout hard for a month or so and then not train again for several years. Mentzer stopped training altogether for probably the last 2 decades of his life.

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Re: The Colorado Scam debunked
« Reply #54 on: September 06, 2023, 04:20:44 AM »
Yes, it's psychologically draining to train that way. It also puts immense pressure on you to have a great workout every workout, actually, to have THE BEST workout ever with every workout. This is simply not possible. This is why people stop training altogether. Arthur Jones would workout hard for a month or so and then not train again for several years. Mentzer stopped training altogether for probably the last 2 decades of his life.
can you enlighten us to your source of information?
& please don´t say some old muscle mag .. ::)

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Re: The Colorado Scam debunked
« Reply #55 on: September 06, 2023, 05:05:02 AM »
Dorian pushes his clients harder than he did in his blood and guts vid. The guy is full of sh!t.
being sick when exercising just means the blood has gone away from your stomach

It isnt anything really to do with intensity of effort
You can throw up with a quick burst of 30 seconds on a stationary bike

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Re: The Colorado Scam debunked
« Reply #56 on: September 06, 2023, 05:41:09 AM »
being sick when exercising just means the blood has gone away from your stomach

It isnt anything really to do with intensity of effort
You can throw up with a quick burst of 30 seconds on a stationary bike
LMFAO  ... stick to your cable training  :D

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Re: The Colorado Scam debunked
« Reply #57 on: September 06, 2023, 05:42:58 AM »
LMFAO  ... stick to your cable training winning shows :D

no worries...

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Re: The Colorado Scam debunked
« Reply #58 on: September 06, 2023, 05:46:40 AM »

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Re: The Colorado Scam debunked
« Reply #59 on: September 06, 2023, 07:09:33 AM »
His belly button hole got bigger. That’s about it

ILS got more severe too

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Re: The Colorado Scam debunked
« Reply #60 on: September 06, 2023, 10:14:18 AM »
ILS got more severe too

Hair got longer, too.

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Re: The Colorado Scam debunked
« Reply #61 on: September 06, 2023, 12:57:38 PM »
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Re: The Colorado Scam debunked
« Reply #62 on: September 06, 2023, 01:22:54 PM »
Randy Roach's take on it... He wrote some amazing iron-game books (while blind even)...

Muscle, Smoke & Mirrors...

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Re: The Colorado Scam debunked
« Reply #63 on: September 06, 2023, 01:31:37 PM »
I’m pretty sure they switched the samples

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Re: The Colorado Scam debunked
« Reply #64 on: September 06, 2023, 01:54:18 PM »
I’m pretty sure they switched the samples

Jones almost got away with it. I know all about it. I can prove it.

Arthur Jones falsified his research so that RDU-90 could be approved and Devlin MacGregor could give Casey Viator...Provasic

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Re: The Colorado Scam debunked
« Reply #65 on: September 06, 2023, 02:04:42 PM »
After Lentz died Arthur Jones was the only one who had the access. He switched the samples, and the pathology reports!

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Re: The Colorado Scam debunked
« Reply #66 on: September 06, 2023, 02:39:20 PM »
Hahaha!

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Re: The Colorado Scam debunked
« Reply #67 on: September 06, 2023, 02:43:48 PM »
Over at Joe Roark's board they discussed Casey Viator's "finger amputation" and said he just lost the tip of a finger, not the whole finger and everything got exagerragted.  I don't know either way, just putting that info out there.

Casey was detrained and off juice, the hopped back on steroids and muscle memory did the trick.  It seems like people are forgetting how massive the guy was even at age 19.  It's not like he gained fresh new mass during the "Colorado experiment."   Then there's the tales of him doing extra volume training on his own, etc.

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Re: The Colorado Scam debunked
« Reply #68 on: September 06, 2023, 03:12:29 PM »
Colorado Experiment:

Casey Viator’s daily lunch: Sandwich, Apple, Cheez-It’s

Casey Viator dinner: always at Medieval Times

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Re: The Colorado Scam debunked
« Reply #69 on: September 06, 2023, 03:18:59 PM »
Over at Joe Roark's board they discussed Casey Viator's "finger amputation" and said he just lost the tip of a finger, not the whole finger and everything got exagerragted.  I don't know either way, just putting that info out there.


Viator joined and posted there a bit for a little while... Grammar was poor, like an uneducated person..

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Re: The Colorado Scam debunked
« Reply #70 on: September 06, 2023, 04:04:48 PM »
Colorado Experiment:

Casey Viator’s daily lunch: Sandwich, Apple, Cheez-It’s

Casey Viator dinner: always at Medieval Times

Hahaha!

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Re: The Colorado Scam debunked
« Reply #71 on: September 06, 2023, 07:26:05 PM »
I talked with Viator and he stated his blood work was perfect when he last had it checked. He looked  fat and bloated to me. I told him there is more to good health than blood work markers like blood pressure, fat markers and VO2. Sadly he died from a heart attack maybe a year or two later.

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Re: The Colorado Scam debunked
« Reply #72 on: September 06, 2023, 09:14:18 PM »
I talked with Viator and he stated his blood work was perfect when he last had it checked. He looked  fat and bloated to me. I told him there is more to good health than blood work markers like blood pressure, fat markers and VO2. Sadly he died from a heart attack maybe a year or two later.

Casey sure sounded like a strange guy. Apparently he was quite the party animal and liked rec drugs. But all his pictures he looks serious, reserved. Not alot of interviews with him.

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Re: The Colorado Scam debunked
« Reply #73 on: September 07, 2023, 01:00:10 AM »
can you enlighten us to your source of information?
& please don´t say some old muscle mag .. ::)
Read any of his books if you know how.

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Re: The Colorado Scam debunked
« Reply #74 on: September 07, 2023, 01:22:33 AM »
can you enlighten us to your source of information?
& please don´t say some old muscle mag .. ::)

That was sort of known in the industry, and it showed. He was a skinny old man who got into shape a few times...