2023 Flex Pro Italy - First Callout

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[affeman]

1 Nathan
2 Regan
3 Roman
4 Chinese guy
5 Blessing (once again smooth af despite having a big mouth b4 the show lol)

[falco]

The expression hammered shit comes to mind.

[joswift]

1 Nathan
2 Regan
3 Roman
4 Chinese guy
5 Blessing (once again smooth af despite having a big mouth b4 the show lol)

he has a left leg like hankins right arm

[IroNat]

1 Nathan
2 Regan
3 Roman
4 Chinese guy
5 Blessing (once again smooth af despite having a big mouth b4 the show lol)

Raciss post.

[joswift]

Raciss post.

off season

[French]

I was in the audience.

Blessing was upset by his placement.
Roman was very dry.
I had Regan first, more balance and big.
Nathan's left arm was smaller.
Liang Yan was incredible, arms and legs completely crazy.

[joswift]

I was in the audience.

Blessing was upset by his placement.
Roman was very dry.
I had Regan first, more balance and big.
Nathan's left arm was smaller.
Liang Yan was incredible, arms and legs completely crazy.

missed his peak, either over or under carbed.

[The Keto Kid]

Dude, Nathan transforms fast, crazy to see his progress.

[Van_Bilderass]

Nathan is good but in comparison to some of the others he has a funky looking body due to the high lats, subpar back in general, and long waist.

I don't know if Regan's Milos loading and dehydrating protocol is doing him any favors for him. Loading to the max and the hitting the loop diuretic (aldactone having been in the mix several days out, most likely) may not be the best strategy. How do you know the water from the loop diuretic is coming from the right compartments?

People took notice of something Nathan said about drugs recently. Many probably do the same but wouldn't admit it. Nathan said he's been on tren for many years straight, 400mg being the lowest it's been at any time. In comparison Milos said he had to convince Samson to finally use tren for the AC, starting at 100mg a week and peaking at 300mg. That's if Milos is telling the truth.

[joswift]

Nathan is good but in comparison to some of the others he has a funky looking body due to the high lats, subpar back in general, and long waist.

I don't know if Regan's Milos loading and dehydrating protocol is doing him any favors for him. Loading to the max and the hitting the loop diuretic (aldactone having been in the mix several days out, most likely) may not be the best strategy. How do you know the water from the loop diuretic is coming from the right compartments?

People took notice of something Nathan said about drugs recently. Many probably do the same but wouldn't admit it. Nathan said he's been on tren for many years straight, 400mg being the lowest it's been at any time.

I find that hard to believe , maybe 38 returns could add some input here.

[Van_Bilderass]

I find that hard to believe , maybe 38 returns could add some input here.

Nathan said it on some podcast and I saw where 38 returns said Nathan gives truthful answers to "supplement" questions.

[joswift]

Nathan said it on some podcast and I saw where 38 returns said Nathan gives truthful answers to "supplement" questions.

if thats true then his insides must be shot

[Van_Bilderass]

if thats true then his insides must be shot

Just to make sure I wasn't misunderstood, it was the weekly dose. Which many already consider a lot. Though it's not completely unheard of to do 2 grams of the stuff before shows. I know of several noncompetitors at the gym doing 1500mg for pretty extended periods. Several of the gh15 elves did 300mg a day for shortish stints lol and these guys were barely out of their teens, maybe some teens too. Not that gh15 ever advocated such.

Tren is assumed to be extremely unhealthy, but if we consider its relative potency the "science" doesn't support it being extra damaging compared to other stuff. What we have is a lot of reports of especially kidney problems. One dude claimed his bloods were perfect after 8 years of 300mg of tren. One TRT endo told me, "tren is some BAD stuff."

[mphgrove]

Chinese Guy looks good, especially from back (earlier show):

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgIp0s0lkTWjm_9GVHdc9vJdY6X9XM_WCLv3El-l6xHV4canSvja6XTiwmZK6vlg5D6sN31-XD0IHIF6RzSNIU1a1LsyCbsE2oO9V5U0kBeAVAGvpxK8T2bgYPorAlv_GnXfM9lXDe052phj0iGPwQhms6rOiQfLoUr-JLKGcZ0m_rqJ_LrwndPbL0ztQ/s712/Shou%20Ming%20Yan%20Chinese%20Bodybuilder%20Asian%20Muscle%203.jpg

[joswift]

Just to make sure I wasn't misunderstood, it was the weekly dose. Which many already consider a lot. Though it's not completely unheard of to do 2 grams of the stuff before shows. I know of several noncompetitors at the gym doing 1500mg for pretty extended periods. Several of the gh15 elves did 300mg a day for shortish stints lol and these guys were barely out of their teens, maybe some teens too. Not that gh15 ever advocated such.

Tren is assumed to be extremely unhealthy, but if we consider its relative potency the "science" doesn't support it being extra damaging compared to other stuff. What we have is a lot of reports of especially kidney problems. One dude claimed his bloods were perfect after 8 years of 300mg of tren. One TRT endo told me, "tren is some BAD stuff."

I would question their supplier

[Van_Bilderass]

Take a look at this lol

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“I LIVE ON TREN ALL YEAR-ROUND BRO. ALL YEAR-ROUND. I LOVE THE SHIT BRO. I LOVE THAT SHIT. I’D PROBABLY GO FROM TREN A TO TREN E, TO A TRI TREN, THEN BACK TO A TREN A. I JUST LOVE BEING STRONG — THAT’S IT,” DE ASHA EXPLAINED.

“I LOVE GOING IN THERE BEING STRONG. SOMETIMES I GO IN THERE AND DO F***ING INSTAGRAM F***ING FAME POSTS, JUST GO ON THERE SQUAT WHATEVER, BENCH WHATEVER, FOR A FEW LIKES AND SHIT. I JUST LIKE BEING STRONG MAN, I LIKE TREN.”

“GO IN THE GYM, STRONG. I DON’T THINK IT GIVES ME AGGRESSION BECAUSE I’M A NICELY BALANCED PERSON ANYWAY. SO, IT DOESN’T REALLY DO MUCH TO ME. I JUST USE IT FOR STRENGTH AND THAT’S IT.”

“IF MY COACH SAYS, ‘NATHAN, GO ON THIS, THIS AND THIS.’ OKAY, COOL, I’LL TAKE IT, AND IF TREN ISN’T IN THERE, I’LL TAKE IT ANYWAY. I DON’T GOT TO TELL ANYBODY. NOBODY IS HERE WHEN I’M F***ING SHOOT UP. BESIDES WHEN THE BOYS WERE JABBING ME AND STUFF, I DON’T KNOW, I JUST LIKE IT.”     

https://generationiron.com/nathan-de-asha-trenbolone-use/

I would question their supplier

I use the same suppliers and it's been potent, can't speak to exact milligram accuracy but if I take just 100mg of Tren E I notice the tren effects immediately. Guys notice the cough immediately and so on. Besides there's now a trend of sending suspicious stuff to janoshik to test. There's some shit but also potent stuff.
Speaking of which, do you happen to know the status of Cidoteston in your parts lately? Underdosed counterfeit or real pharma?

[The Scott]

Somewhere in the lineup there is surely an unwritten symphony or three...

[Hulkotron]

I think the chinaman should have won.

[joswift]

Take a look at this lol

https://generationiron.com/nathan-de-asha-trenbolone-use/

I use the same suppliers and it's been potent, can't speak to exact milligram accuracy but if I take just 100mg of Tren E I notice the tren effects immediately. Guys notice the cough immediately and so on. Besides there's now a trend of sending suspicious stuff to janoshik to test. There's some shit but also potent stuff.
Speaking of which, do you happen to know the status of Cidoteston in your parts lately? Underdosed counterfeit or real pharma?

Egypt stopped selling via the Chemist a few years ago now
You could still get it in Egypt through the Chemist in the resorts but they were double the price of a legit chemist

I cant see them going to all the trouble of faking boxes and individual vials when the legit stuff costs around £1

Everything you buy now in the UK seems to be UGL

[Van_Bilderass]

Egypt stopped selling via the Chemist a few years ago now
You could still get it in Egypt through the Chemist in the resorts but they were double the price of a legit chemist

I cant see them going to all the trouble of faking boxes and individual vials when the legit stuff costs around £1

Everything you buy now in the UK seems to be UGL

Thanks. I also heard Turkey has stopped selling OTC, though I doubt steroids can't be had at some pharmacies still, but I'm just speculating. "So there's no pharma steroids to be had any longer in Europe." he said. What about Galenika I asked? I bet it's counterfeit too he said, but wasn't positive. Galenika is more rare in my circles. My friend just had bought 300 Cidoteston which he got as replacemt in return for giving his dealer back his UGL vials which were painful (but appeared very potent.) Now he heard from his dealer his friend got poor testosterone reading with Cidos, the reading was 26 from 1 amp a week (european scale)  he switched to a UGL and at the same dose his reading was 66 so they figured the supposed fakes were about 150mg. But just one such report is unreliable. He will gift me 30 to see how I respond based on feel lol.

Last year was the first time I saw completely fake test. I did the freezer test, they stayed liquid lol. Luckily I didn't pay for it.

You'd think there's very little incentive to fake test. Why?

[38 returns]

nathan only does tren during pre contest

thats all i can say

van b, jeff, pm me!

[Van_Bilderass]

I would question their supplier

I remember Dorian and several other pros, Milos was one I think, saying they knew guys taking 1.5 grams, just unremarkable bodybuilders? Of course they laughedvand said it was idiocy. The problem is with knowing when they are just taking the piss, they are usually lying whether minimizing or exaggerating. Why would Nathan give the above quotes? Sick sense of humor, what? Lol. Why would a guy brag he lies to his trainer?

[illuminati]

Take a look at this lol

https://generationiron.com/nathan-de-asha-trenbolone-use/

I just read that article - Can't comment on what Nathan supposedly said ,

The Funny part is where it says Larry Wheels has now quit using steroids
& is doing TRT 😂🤣😂🤣😂

Seriously WTF stupidity to write .

[Bevo]

Why are people calling him Regan? It’s frank grimes