I saw Vince in April/16. He was done then. But at that time it was just about having fun. It was a concert in Cedar Park Tx with the lead Jack Russell from Great White, Warrant, Firehouse, Ratt, Steel Heart and Brett Michaels. Crue closed the show and they had the sound up on Tommy's kick drum so loud it was painful even after all the other acts. Vince's voice was shrill, he held the mic out the the crowd like Lou Grahm past his prime... but a good time had by all. But vocally, Vince should have retired well before that show