New picture of Mr FAT

[timfogarty]

i do  respect your age and experience....but you cannot say that heavy squats with even the slightest of incorrect breathing dont extend the abdominal wall.

your abdominal wall extends every time you breath.   your stomach muscles stretch and contract all the time.  you can push out your stomach, you can suck in your gut.  women get pregnant, then can get back into shape.

the problem that pros have is that they have too much volume in their abdomen to suck in.  because of GH and insulin abuse, their organs have become enlarged, but their rib cage has not.  bigger orgrans, but no place to put them, so they push out the stomach.

you will not find a pic of a bodybuilder with a GH gut prior to the early 1990s.  now most pros have it to some extent.

[Mr. Intenseone]

i do  respect your age and experience....but you cannot say that heavy squats with even the slightest of incorrect breathing dont extend the abdominal wall.

Your wrong...it will expand your ribcage and lung capacity.....but not your abdominal wall!!

[monte45]

I know im new but, i have know idea how ppl can start threads like this hahaha Dogging on the best ...the pros, never mind one of the best ever, big ron himself...they must just laugh at you, the Man won the Mr. O 8 times!!! who cares if he looks like a fucking 400lb bulgy watery, ugly slob...when he goes to the O and competes in the best shape a 300lb beast possible can...all of us drop jaw and watch in awe...so i dont get the point of these negative threads...lol but i guess its for the attention...like hopefully ron will sign on and leave you a reply or something...just to connect to greatness in a negitive way gets some ppl off i guess. 

[timfogarty]

the Man won the Mr. O 8 times!!! who cares if he looks like a fucking 400lb bulgy watery, ugly slob..

the point was he was being paid to be a guest poser

[candidate2025]

What gut? you mean his thick obliques? big difference between a thick set of obliques and looking like you're pregnant for octuplits  and when he holds it in tight its sharp as hell , lol nice try 

[nicorulez]

When your abdomen swells because you lift too heavy, it has a medical moniker.....its a hernia dude.  No, the abdominal fascia beneath does not stretch.  Also, GH if anything would cut you up more so I doubt you would have razor sharp abs and serratus on the outside, but look like John Goodman on the inside.   I agree with Tim, it is well documented that the internal organs grow with GH.  Also, since your muscles get thicker, it would not seem unreasonable that the abdominal muscles themselves get thicker.  ND posts tons of pics of Ronnie's GH gut but there are just as many out there of his boy Dorian with a similar affliction.  What is most funny about ND and Hulkster is that they are fiercely protective of their respective favorite.  However, to an outsider or objective person, there are probably more similarities between Ronnie and Dorian than significant differences.  Both are (were) huge with GH guts.  Ronnie is thicker and larger, but Dorian was in better conditioning (at least in 1992-1993).  Overall, I feel Ronnie is far superior, but those who favor Dorian's physique have a point.  His back and calves were exceptional.  However, the best bodybuilder I ever saw except for his height was Momo.  The man was a Sherman tank.  Unreal....too bad Lasix has such bad side effects.  At least I can't find a documented pic of Momo GH gut (or Haney for that matter).

[monte45]

the point was he was being paid to be a guest poser

I think that they ppl who booked him arn't stupid enough to think that hes going to break out of his ofseason routine to do a guest show...lol...you knwo what i mean whats more important to him also ..and im sure they realized it and im sure most of the ppl didnt care seeing a man of that size and gurth!

[pumpster]

the reason you see guts is bcause todays pros do leg work. heavy leg work. and lots of it.


this exttra pressure on the abdomin extends out the wall, with the old timers, they kept small stomachs, and twig legs.

Absurd. It's a little early to start throwing out silly theories that are wrong most of the time. Spend more time reading (STFU) until you can contribute informed opinions. Your entire thought process is out of wack.

[the shadow]

come on both yates and coleman just look big in the offseason....even if you look fat in the offseason,it does not matter.....only the contest day counts.and both of these behemoths on contest day have resulted in a total of 14 sandows count.so no offence even if u r mr fat in the offseason.both of them have reached  a offseason weight of o about 320lbs for dorian yates and ronnie colemans as high as 330lbs...so when u see a 274lbs of solid ripped muscles like yates or 287lbs of ripped muscle like ronnie coleman,so there is no harm in lookinh like fat slob when u look like a colouss on stage

[brianX]

I don't see what's so bad about big obliques. They make you look powerful and Herculean.

[arce377]

those ARE FAT ROLLS hanging over his posing trunks!

[gtbro1]

Absurd. This kind of logic suggests in no uncertain terms that your entire thought process is out of wack.

consider the source.

[HowieW]

come on both yates and coleman just look big in the offseason....even if you look fat in the offseason,it does not matter.....only the contest day counts.and both of these behemoths on contest day have resulted in a total of 14 sandows count.so no offence even if u r mr fat in the offseason.both of them have reached  a offseason weight of o about 320lbs for dorian yates and ronnie colemans as high as 330lbs...so when u see a 274lbs of solid ripped muscles like yates or 287lbs of ripped muscle like ronnie coleman,so there is no harm in lookinh like fat slob when u look like a colouss on stage

yes, that may be but, should anyone pay to see a pro so out of shape when hey guest pose?
Howard

[gtbro1]

why would anyone pay to watch anyone pose(unless they are a hot chic).

[HowieW]

why would anyone pay to watch anyone pose(unless they are a hot chic).

THAT is the best reply I EVER read, seriously, it puts things in perspective.
It sure jolted me back to what makes life worth it.
Being healthy, good sex, good food, and some $$ in your pocket, etc

[gtbro1]

THAT is the best reply I EVER read, seriously, it puts things in perspective.
It sure jolted me back to what makes life worth it.
Being healthy, good sex, good food, and some $$ in your pocket, etc

Yeah ,think about it...everyone jokes about pros doing "special" posing sesions with fags...well not a whole lot different in my opinion.(except the anal sex part)

[bigdumbbell]

your abdominal wall extends every time you breath.   your stomach muscles stretch and contract all the time.  you can push out your stomach, you can suck in your gut.  women get pregnant, then can get back into shape.

the problem that pros have is that they have too much volume in their abdomen to suck in.  because of GH and insulin abuse, their organs have become enlarged, but their rib cage has not.  bigger orgrans, but no place to put them, so they push out the stomach.

you will not find a pic of a bodybuilder with a GH gut prior to the early 1990s.  now most pros have it to some extent.

  correct, it's pushed forward by enlarged organs

[pumpster]

why would anyone pay to watch anyone pose(unless they are a hot chic).


THAT is the best reply I EVER read, seriously, it puts things in perspective.
It sure jolted me back to what makes life worth it.
Being healthy, good sex, good food, and some $$ in your pocket, etc

Cute but makes no sense. You're basically saying that anyone in the audience at any conest must be gay.

[LuciusFox]

 He's not even fat there. Look at the hamstrings

[joshberry2000]

i think you need to look at his 05 olympia video

[bigdumbbell]

i think we've all seen too much of this guy..and that's a fact.  who in their right mind would want their kid or loved one looking like that?

[NarcissisticDeity]

When your abdomen swells because you lift too heavy, it has a medical moniker.....its a hernia dude.  No, the abdominal fascia beneath does not stretch.  Also, GH if anything would cut you up more so I doubt you would have razor sharp abs and serratus on the outside, but look like John Goodman on the inside.   I agree with Tim, it is well documented that the internal organs grow with GH.  Also, since your muscles get thicker, it would not seem unreasonable that the abdominal muscles themselves get thicker.  ND posts tons of pics of Ronnie's GH gut but there are just as many out there of his boy Dorian with a similar affliction.  What is most funny about ND and Hulkster is that they are fiercely protective of their respective favorite.  However, to an outsider or objective person, there are probably more similarities between Ronnie and Dorian than significant differences.  Both are (were) huge with GH guts.  Ronnie is thicker and larger, but Dorian was in better conditioning (at least in 1992-1993).  Overall, I feel Ronnie is far superior, but those who favor Dorian's physique have a point.  His back and calves were exceptional.  However, the best bodybuilder I ever saw except for his height was Momo.  The man was a Sherman tank.  Unreal....too bad Lasix has such bad side effects.  At least I can't find a documented pic of Momo GH gut (or Haney for that matter).

Again you couldn't be any more wrong , Dorian is NOT favorite , just because I go on about him doesn't mean he is my favorite , when I do go on about him its always in relation to Coleman , this whole debate started over who at their respective bests would win in a contest , and here we are

I post tons of pics of Ron's gut because there are tons of them , in competition , and if you did some research , I've posted pics of Nasser , Fux , Ferigno , Yates , Kovacs , Dex , Sheriden , etc , and you really need to do some research , I can look at Yates objectively because he isn't my favorite , and I've said pleanty of times ( research this ) that Yates & Coleman are similar in regaurds to looking great at the begining of their careers and towards the end they got progressively worse !!

Yates did start the gut trend in 1993 , before that his waist was small , the pic of Dorian that is from the 1993 Olympia where he is totaly relaxed is ' supposed ' to show his huge gut , from 1993 on Dorian's waist started to thick , his obliques started to get wider and he did have some distension , and in 1997 his gut was pretty bad and in my opinion should have lost just based on that !

However Ron took the whole GH gut thing and ran with it , Ron had distension problems at low bodyweights , there are pics of him from the 2001 Arnold Classic at 247lbs with a distended gut , look at the pic of Cormier from the 1999 Olympia where he is in the backround with a nice distened gut , now you say " okay well if its good for Dorian's goose its certainly good for Ron's gander " true enough , you can't be harsh for Ron when Yates got away with , but Ron is in a leauge of his own when it comes to guts

By the 2000 Mr Olympia the magazines are stating Ron needs to improve is midsection , then 2001 comes along and Ron's gut is really starting to just hang out all over the place , 2002 Olympia he " beats "  Levrone and Kevin says " No Mr Olympia should have a gut " and then 2003 comes and Oh boy , Ron was the most massive ANY Mr olympia has ever been 287lbs on contest day and everyone if caught up in the moment and his gut is now a complete joke , his gut is the biggest of any Mr Olympia by far , 2004 296lbs lol and still expanding , 2005 they basically make a mandate because of the trend he started and he comes in lighter and with a smaller waist compared to 03/04 but its STILL there

The whole GH gut thing is a joke , I remember seeing the pictures in the magazines in early 1994 of the 93 Olympia and I just couldn't get over the fact Dorian could win with a gut that wide & distended , I was routing for Flex and thought he was the only one who could beat Dorain and he didn't , but believe me I was complaing about this back then !!

Momo was a great bodybuilder , however his midsection did start to get thick and he did have a GH gut .

[Hulkster]

but those who favor Dorian's physique have a point.  His back and calves were exceptional.

no they don't because Ronnie's back is much better in the rear double bi, and his lats look better because, at his best, his waist was much smaller.

so dorian has better calves and abs. wow.

I don't think that, even at their  bests, Dorian and ronnie have many similarites.

Ronnie has lots of detail in the arms, quads, delts, upper back and chest.

Dorian does not.

Ronnie has a wasp waist (at his best).
Dorian does not.

Ronnie has good vascularity.
Dorian does not.

Ronnie has great arms, quads and delts.
Dorian does not.

Ronnie has classic lines,
Dorian was blocky.




like night and day.

[NarcissisticDeity]

no they don't because Ronnie's back is much better in the rear double bi, and his lats look better because, at his best, his waist was much smaller.

so dorian has better calves and abs. wow.

I don't think that, even at their  bests, Dorian and ronnie have many similarites.

Ronnie has lots of detail in the arms, quads, delts, upper back and chest.

Dorian does not.

Ronnie has a wasp waist (at his best).
Dorian does not.

Ronnie has good vascularity.
Dorian does not.

Ronnie has great arms, quads and delts.
Dorian does not.

Ronnie has classic lines,
Dorian was blocky.



like night and day.

Physique wise they are different , but Ronnie having classic lines LOL get the hook gee I wonder why he wasn't on the 20 most aesthetic bodybuilders list  he ranks up there with the best of them  Ronnie & Dorian were both freaks , size & conditioning , great backs !! Cormier has the lines , Ronnie doesn't , so keep trying .

[Hulkster]

funny how flex magazine in their 99 Olynmpia coverage talks about Ronnie's lines and aesthetics.

funny how several years of a monster gut can make people forget.