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The Pamith "All Natty" Stack
« on: September 23, 2023, 01:49:29 AM »
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Re: The Pamith "All Natty" Stack
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2023, 02:13:02 AM »
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Re: The Pamith "All Natty" Stack
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2023, 04:24:02 AM »
I've seen experienced juicers say Rad-140 is the only drug to make them truly rage. Not Halotestin, not Tren or Methyltren or "Cheque drops" - but fucking Rad-140 lol.

YK-11 is misidentified according to chemists. I'm not a chemist so can't say but the structure is more like a steroid they say. I think heart palpitations have been reported.

I've only tried Rad-140 but I couldn't tell shit but it's because I was already on a bunch steroids. Take something like this, assuming the ingredients are there, with MK-677 and you mighy be over 20lbs heavier and a lot sttronger in a month. One single tab of MK-677 makes me gain about 5lbs (all water of course).

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Re: The Pamith "All Natty" Stack
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2023, 04:26:35 AM »
I've seen experienced juicers say Rad-140 is the only drug to make them truly rage. Not Halotestin, not Tren or Methyltren or "Cheque drops" - but fucking Rad-140 lol.

YK-11 is misidentified according to chemists. I'm not a chemist so can't say but the structure is more like a steroid they say. I think heart palpitations have been reported.

I've only tried Rad-140 but I couldn't tell shit but it's because I was already on a bunch steroids. Take something like this, assuming the ingredients are there, with MK-677 and you mighy be over 20lbs heavier and a lot sttronger in a month. One single tab of MK-677 makes me gain about 5lbs (all water of course).

Did you get big stomach bloat from MK-677? Or just water-gain all around?

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Re: The Pamith "All Natty" Stack
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2023, 04:45:45 AM »
Did you get big stomach bloat from MK-677? Or just water-gain all around?

I did get a bigger stomach but it's hard to pin it on just one thing. When I was at my heaviest I weighed 255 fat, with some muscle underneath lol, was on Test, Tren, lots of Anadrol and the MK-677. Edit: and lots of insulin too. Stomach looked extra bad, I have an anterior pelvic tilt, split and torn abs and so I always have a "gut" even pretty lean. But for sure it made that worse.
I gained a shitload of strength, after a couple of months I had added about 30lbs to my deadlift which was miraculous because I had been stalled for like 10 years despite brutal lifting lol.

Try it even if you're a natural. It doesn't mess up your hormones for the long run. Three caps of berberine and 12.5-2mg of Mk-677. Ifit isn't to your liking, just stop it and after a couple of days you have pissed out the water.

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Re: The Pamith "All Natty" Stack
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2023, 04:59:51 AM »
I did get a bigger stomach but it's hard to pin it on just one thing. When I was at my heaviest I weighed 255 fat, with some muscle underneath lol, was on Test, Tren, lots of Anadrol and the MK-677. Edit: and lots of insulin too. Stomach looked extra bad, I have an anterior pelvic tilt, split and torn abs and so I always have a "gut" even pretty lean. But for sure it made that worse.
I gained a shitload of strength, after a couple of months I had added about 30lbs to my deadlift which was miraculous because I had been stalled for like 10 years despite brutal lifting lol.

Try it even if you're a natural. It doesn't mess up your hormones for the long run. Three caps of berberine and 12.5-2mg of Mk-677. Ifit isn't to your liking, just stop it and after a couple of days you have pissed out the water.

I did try it once, thats why I asked... I stopped it after a few days, I was very sleepy/tired/lethargic, and my stomach sort of ballooned up.
Odd..

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Re: The Pamith "All Natty" Stack
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2023, 10:05:08 AM »
I did try it once, thats why I asked... I stopped it after a few days, I was very sleepy/tired/lethargic, and my stomach sort of ballooned up.
Odd..

Same experience.  Though I used it for 6 weeks. I went from lean to a fat fuck in 6 weeks but I was in my mid 40's at the time and every nagging injury I had developed over the years healed very nicely in a very short time.

My stomach ballooned and I had edema in my feet. Not a shocking level but I never experienced it before.

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Re: The Pamith "All Natty" Stack
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2023, 11:52:08 AM »
Same experience.  Though I used it for 6 weeks. I went from lean to a fat fuck in 6 weeks but I was in my mid 40's at the time and every nagging injury I had developed over the years healed very nicely in a very short time.

My stomach ballooned and I had edema in my feet. Not a shocking level but I never experienced it before.

I read a lot of good things about it for injury healing, that is why I tried it (shoulder) but I couldnt stay awake at my desk during the day...

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Re: The Pamith "All Natty" Stack
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2023, 09:31:05 PM »
I read a lot of good things about it for injury healing, that is why I tried it (shoulder) but I couldnt stay awake at my desk during the day...

Oh yeah, the lethargy was brutal.  Each limb felt like it was made of lead. Haven't slept as good since.

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Re: The Pamith "All Natty" Stack
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2023, 02:14:31 AM »
I've seen experienced juicers say Rad-140 is the only drug to make them truly rage. Not Halotestin, not Tren or Methyltren or "Cheque drops" - but fucking Rad-140 lol.

YK-11 is misidentified according to chemists. I'm not a chemist so can't say but the structure is more like a steroid they say. I think heart palpitations have been reported.

I've only tried Rad-140 but I couldn't tell shit but it's because I was already on a bunch steroids. Take something like this, assuming the ingredients are there, with MK-677 and you mighy be over 20lbs heavier and a lot sttronger in a month. One single tab of MK-677 makes me gain about 5lbs (all water of course).

Never forget that Anadrol and Paralabolan were developed and tested for years before being marketed. Sides had been taken in consideration also. These new compounds have not been tested or evaluated their long term sides.

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Re: The Pamith "All Natty" Stack
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2023, 06:33:35 AM »
Never forget that Anadrol and Paralabolan were developed and tested for years before being marketed. Sides had been taken in consideration also. These new compounds have not been tested or evaluated their long term sides.

Yes, I would have liked to see a few females who were treated with Parabolan for say 6 months. Maybe they didn't stay on it that long plus they only used one 76mg ampule every 10 days, which works out to "only" 50mg per week. People didn't think about this but almost all steroids were developed to reduce androgenic sides compared to testosterone.
But if I had a chick I cared about who wanted to try hormones I would start her on 1mg testosterone per week, then titrate up, like to 3-5mg a week. It's bioidentica after all  ;D

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Re: The Pamith "All Natty" Stack
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2023, 06:40:24 AM »
Same experience.  Though I used it for 6 weeks. I went from lean to a fat fuck in 6 weeks but I was in my mid 40's at the time and every nagging injury I had developed over the years healed very nicely in a very short time.

My stomach ballooned and I had edema in my feet. Not a shocking level but I never experienced it before.

I had shocking edema in my feet, like I thought I  would probably die soon because the edema was so bad.
I did try it once, thats why I asked... I stopped it after a few days, I was very sleepy/tired/lethargic, and my stomach sort of ballooned up.
Odd..


I just carried on despite the sides because I had "shocking" strength gains. :D They were so good no amount of AAS would have given me that, I think I was maxed out a few years prior ;D

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Re: The Pamith "All Natty" Stack
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2023, 06:26:32 PM »
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Re: The Pamith "All Natty" Stack
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2023, 06:33:35 PM »
I've seen experienced juicers say Rad-140 is the only drug to make them truly rage. Not Halotestin, not Tren or Methyltren or "Cheque drops" - but fucking Rad-140 lol.

YK-11 is misidentified according to chemists. I'm not a chemist so can't say but the structure is more like a steroid they say. I think heart palpitations have been reported.

I've only tried Rad-140 but I couldn't tell shit but it's because I was already on a bunch steroids. Take something like this, assuming the ingredients are there, with MK-677 and you mighy be over 20lbs heavier and a lot sttronger in a month. One single tab of MK-677 makes me gain about 5lbs (all water of course).

what's your thoughts on the safer use models?

it goes something like this... test 300-400 mgs or as much as you can handle without sides or an ai and then fill the rest with primo or mast

they say 1 mg of primo or mast has roughly the same muscle accurall as 1 mg of test or deca


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Re: The Pamith "All Natty" Stack
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2023, 04:34:59 AM »
what's your thoughts on the safer use models?

it goes something like this... test 300-400 mgs or as much as you can handle without sides or an ai and then fill the rest with primo or mast

they say 1 mg of primo or mast has roughly the same muscle accurall as 1 mg of test or deca

I have a ton of opinions on this guy, could write all day. Mostly negative. He's irritating yet right most of the time, very smart. A whole industry sprung up aroundd him. It's actually embarrassing how many use his models and give him no credit, but he deserves it.

It's a good model if looking long term to do this pretty safely. You could do thiis for a while then see if you hacve what it takes annd then put in an extra gear.

Although he wasn't first technically, the telmisaRtan Nd the gh and insulin from the start is genius, and the metformin too

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Re: The Pamith "All Natty" Stack
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2023, 04:57:13 AM »
Oh yeah, the lethargy was brutal.  Each limb felt like it was made of lead. Haven't slept as good since.

Yeah but it was also hard to wake up while on it. Never felt like I needed so many naps during the day.


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Re: The Pamith "All Natty" Stack
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2023, 05:05:16 AM »
I have a ton of opinions on this guy, could write all day. Mostly negative. He's irritating yet right most of the time, very smart. A whole industry sprung up aroundd him. It's actually embarrassing how many use his models and give him no credit, but he deserves it.

It's a good model if looking long term to do this pretty safely. You could do thiis for a while then see if you hacve what it takes annd then put in an extra gear.

Although he wasn't first technically, the telmisaRtan Nd the gh and insulin from the start is genius, and the metformin too

he has a lot of pathways not just slin, gh, tela and roids

it's smart to use a little of each and safer as well

mast is an awful drug for me same with winny, but deca and var are good for me, not sure bout primo, but a primo test stack would cost me 5 times as much as a deca test stack, hell i could even run deca, var, test and tren @ 150 mgs a week and its still less than test primo :D :D :D

i'm switching to dc/jordan peterson (hey joe!) style training with a focus on increased loads and if i can temper myself to train eod and not 6 days a fucking week i bets i'll make great gains on 250 mgs of test and low dose slin while also addressing the other pathways, if not then I guess i'll add deca, var and tren but still be under 1 gram a week

clen is anabolic slightly yes? black talks about this and my coach from many years back also said this as well

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Re: The Pamith "All Natty" Stack
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2023, 05:10:49 AM »
The reported anabolism of clen is largely theoretical, I believe .. there’s a viable mechanism at the cellular level but in practice I wouldn’t expect more than a bit of anti-catabolism (which is still valuable, of course)

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Re: The Pamith "All Natty" Stack
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Re: The Pamith "All Natty" Stack
« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2023, 05:52:34 AM »
I read a lot of good things about it for injury healing, that is why I tried it (shoulder) but I couldnt stay awake at my desk during the day...

I took it at night, which helped a lot as a sleeping aid, but didn't feel lethargic in the day.

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Re: The Pamith "All Natty" Stack
« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2023, 05:59:13 AM »
I did get a bigger stomach but it's hard to pin it on just one thing. When I was at my heaviest I weighed 255 fat, with some muscle underneath lol, was on Test, Tren, lots of Anadrol and the MK-677. Edit: and lots of insulin too. Stomach looked extra bad, I have an anterior pelvic tilt, split and torn abs and so I always have a "gut" even pretty lean. But for sure it made that worse.
I gained a shitload of strength, after a couple of months I had added about 30lbs to my deadlift which was miraculous because I had been stalled for like 10 years despite brutal lifting lol.

Try it even if you're a natural. It doesn't mess up your hormones for the long run. Three caps of berberine and 12.5-2mg of Mk-677. Ifit isn't to your liking, just stop it and after a couple of days you have pissed out the water.

RAD-140 gave such extreme muscle pumps it was borderline cramps and limited how much I could lift as I was worried I would tear something. Also made my joints feel dry. And yes, very very high aggression.

Agree about the MK-677, noticeable strength gains, greatly increased recovery rate, and also muscle preservation if not training for some time or as regularly.

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Re: The Pamith "All Natty" Stack
« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2023, 07:07:42 AM »


Agree about the MK-677, noticeable strength gains, greatly increased recovery rate, and also muscle preservation if not training for some time or as regularly.

It can be very valuable for most in phases but today most hate, extreme hate lol.
It's like the guys who hate on creatine, their "bloat" crying which I believe is mostly imaginary Imaginary I believe. Fine, don't take it then and fuck off lol.

My friiend who is older recently took 10 25mg MK and gained 10. This is too dangerous he concluded. And yes, it could be, all depends on the situation. This drug will never be on the market due to the appetite side effect anyway.

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Re: The Pamith "All Natty" Stack
« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2023, 07:12:17 AM »
he has a lot of pathways not just slin, gh, tela and roids

it's smart to use a little of each and safer as well

mast is an awful drug for me same with winny, but deca and var are good for me, not sure bout primo, but a primo test stack would cost me 5 times as much as a deca test stack, hell i could even run deca, var, test and tren @ 150 mgs a week and its still less than test primo :D :D :D

i'm switching to dc/jordan peterson (hey joe!) style training with a focus on increased loads and if i can temper myself to train eod and not 6 days a fucking week i bets i'll make great gains on 250 mgs of test and low dose slin while also addressing the other pathways, if not then I guess i'll add deca, var and tren but still be under 1 gram a week

clen is anabolic slightly yes? black talks about this and my coach from many years back also said this as well

Fuck Primo then, use the deca instead.

Jordan is the one I would point to as the closest to my favorite type of training. Some would call it even powerlifting but IRL and theoretically it makes most sense IMO. Takes a certain type though.

Clen is hard to know how much it contributes to growth like ProudVirgin said but I believe it's an advantage . I remember the great pumps.

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Re: The Pamith "All Natty" Stack
« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2023, 07:52:09 AM »
I took it at night, which helped a lot as a sleeping aid, but didn't feel lethargic in the day.

Lucky.. I also took it at night, but it lingered all the next day (unsure of its half-life)...

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Re: The Pamith "All Natty" Stack
« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2023, 08:54:11 AM »
Fuck Primo then, use the deca instead.

Jordan is the one I would point to as the closest to my favorite type of training. Some would call it even powerlifting but IRL and theoretically it makes most sense IMO. Takes a certain type though.

Clen is hard to know how much it contributes to growth like ProudVirgin said but I believe it's an advantage . I remember the great pumps.

any ideas how to micro load dumbbells ???

you can pin small plates on weight stacks on jump 5 on barbells but a 5 pound jump per hand on a dumbbell is a fucking shitload