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Re: Would you enlist to fight ww3
« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2023, 08:37:41 AM »
I mean if they are going to pay you 200k for a 6 month tour against a vastly inferior foreign force why wouldn't you? If you look at the statistics, you are more likely to get killed in a car accident staying home. Also wife has been offered a better job with the DOJ but it's in the Capital so have to think about it.

More likely to get killed in a car accident staying home? Tell that to those on the line in Ukraine.

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Re: Would you enlist to fight ww3
« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2023, 08:39:41 AM »
There is talk again about bringing back the draft.

Most of the nations are so economically tied now I’m not sure how a world war would even happen.
Basically if the Sauid Iran make a pact like Stalin and Hitler did to divide Poland.

Saudi leader is worried about the countries future, taking over Qatar would do that.

If Iran and Saudi take over the Persian gulf they can hold the world hostage with oil. If it's cordinated with China going for Taiwan, USA would have to fight wars on 3 fronts. Or cave and make a deal for a new world order.

Iran-China-Russia are already Allies if Saudi Arabia sees this situation as a means of becoming a global super power(it would) they might be tempted to jump in.

American can't fight a war on three fronts, without having a draft/going broke etc.

All of these countries are fucked no matter what happens in this decade.

It's not so much them winning territory it's forcing America out of Asia/forcing a new deal with the US


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Re: Would you enlist to fight ww3
« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2023, 08:50:38 AM »
Basically if the Sauid Iran make a pact like Stalin and Hitler did to divide Poland.

Saudi leader is worried about the countries future, taking over Qatar would do that.

If Iran and Saudi take over the Persian gulf they can hold the world hostage with oil. If it's cordinated with China going for Taiwan, USA would have to fight wars on 3 fronts. Or cave and make a deal for a new world order.

Iran-China-Russia are already Allies if Saudi Arabia sees this situation as a means of becoming a global super power(it would) they might be tempted to jump in.

American can't fight a war on three fronts, without having a draft/going broke etc.

All of these countries are fucked no matter what happens in this decade.

It's not so much them winning territory it's forcing America out of Asia/forcing a new deal with the US

Russia, China, Iran, Saudi pressing West and NW

Poland taking over western Ukraine, Russia takes the rest and Baltikum
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Re: Would you enlist to fight ww3
« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2023, 08:54:55 AM »
I would go myself if you paid me enough. We have a volunteer force no one is sending anyone everyone signed up to go for money.

With all your ailments going to fight in war should be the last thing on your mind, you’ll die simply by both of your knees giving out while just walking through the fields

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Re: Would you enlist to fight ww3
« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2023, 08:57:05 AM »
With all your ailments going to fight in war should be the last thing on your mind, you’ll die simply by both of your knees giving out while just walking through the fields

Maybe he is planning on culinary duty so he can eat all the French Toast to his heart and guts' content?   :D ;D

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Re: Would you enlist to fight ww3
« Reply #30 on: September 25, 2023, 09:34:39 AM »
More likely to get killed in a car accident staying home? Tell that to those on the line in Ukraine.

The American forces are not on the front lines of Ukraine.  When we go we send an overwhelming force with overwhelming support. Look at the actual casualties in Iraq vs gun deaths in the US we lost under 893 soldiers in the worst year of the war. Meanwhile we have 40k people killed by guns annually domestically. You are more likely to get shot and killed in Chicago or hit by a drunk driver than shot and killed in a war as a US soldier based on post Vietnam statistics.


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Re: Would you enlist to fight ww3
« Reply #31 on: September 25, 2023, 09:39:19 AM »
The American forces are not on the front lines of Ukraine.  When we go we send an overwhelming force with overwhelming support. Look at the actual casualties in Iraq vs gun deaths in the US we lost under 893 soldiers in the worst year of the war. Meanwhile we have 40k people killed by guns annually domestically. You are more likely to get shot and killed in Chicago or hit by a drunk driver than shot and killed in a war as a US soldier based on post Vietnam statistics.

Getting PTSD is worst than losing a leg  you're screwed for life.
So no its not like a car accident.

You prove the point despite higher death rates there's way less trauma per capita.

Regardless america cant maintain support for Ukraine so easily if they had to divert attention to china and the Persian gulf in the same day

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Re: Would you enlist to fight ww3
« Reply #32 on: September 25, 2023, 09:41:27 AM »
Getting PTSD is worst than losing a leg  you're screwed for life.
So no its not like a car accident.

You prove the point despite higher death rates there's way less trauma per capita.

WTF having your feelings hurt is worse than losing a leg? PTSD is not a real thing. That is what deadbeats claim to have to take benefit money away from guys who actually lost legs.

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Re: Would you enlist to fight ww3
« Reply #33 on: September 25, 2023, 09:43:24 AM »
No kids/ would fight (not under this president tho!)

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Re: Would you enlist to fight ww3
« Reply #34 on: September 25, 2023, 09:53:00 AM »
Any civilians taking up arms in a WW3 scenario will be incinerated instantly.

Also, I have no clue who the "good guys" are any more. I don't think there are any.

Best you could do is try to stay alive and protect yourself and your family.

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Re: Would you enlist to fight ww3
« Reply #35 on: September 25, 2023, 09:55:21 AM »
WTF having your feelings hurt is worse than losing a leg? PTSD is not a real thing. That is what deadbeats claim to have to take benefit money away from guys who actually lost legs.

Spoken like a guy whose had every thing handed to him in life. So delusional.  It's easy for a loser like you, you'll just lie to yourself and make up whatever fantasy you tell yourself.


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Re: Would you enlist to fight ww3
« Reply #36 on: September 25, 2023, 09:56:44 AM »
The American forces are not on the front lines of Ukraine.  When we go we send an overwhelming force with overwhelming support. Look at the actual casualties in Iraq vs gun deaths in the US we lost under 893 soldiers in the worst year of the war. Meanwhile we have 40k people killed by guns annually domestically. You are more likely to get shot and killed in Chicago or hit by a drunk driver than shot and killed in a war as a US soldier based on post Vietnam statistics.

They are in Ukraine. That info was leaked months ago by a guardsmen who will never see the light of day again.

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Re: Would you enlist to fight ww3
« Reply #37 on: September 25, 2023, 10:07:55 AM »
There is talk again about bringing back the draft.

Since the draft ended in 1973, every few years there "has been talk about bringing back the draft."

It's just that ... talk
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Re: Would you enlist to fight ww3
« Reply #38 on: September 25, 2023, 10:14:14 AM »
They are in Ukraine. That info was leaked months ago by a guardsmen who will never see the light of day again.

A handful of special forces training the Ukrainians sure but not the entire might of the US military

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Re: Would you enlist to fight ww3
« Reply #39 on: September 25, 2023, 10:16:33 AM »
I would join in, but...for other reasons....


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Re: Would you enlist to fight ww3
« Reply #40 on: September 25, 2023, 10:48:14 AM »
Since the draft ended in 1973, every few years there "has been talk about bringing back the draft."

It's just that ... talk
If a war broke out that's exactly what would have to happen.

We're talking specifically a scenario where there's a war in the persian gulf and in china at the same time.

In all reality America would probably just walk away, but we never know.

If we got stuck in a Persian gulf war and some sort of Korean/Taiwan fight for an extended period of time they'd need to do a draft.

The US cannot deny Korea/Taiwan and Persian states all at once.

This is sort of the point.

Ukraine is fighitng on home turf, if it were the Americans attacking Russia on home soil we'd have many of the same problems the Russians currently have.

It's not easy to invade a place like Saudi Arabia/China/Korea.

Let we're in a situation where things could easily blow up, and get crazy fast.

Pakistan is also a powder keg at the moment.

Pakistan if you didn't know has as many people of peak war fighting age(18-25) as China does.

If Asian countries team up it's world war 3.

And they all their motivations.
 
Russia/Saudi Arabia/Iran all rely on oil exports and so they'd love nothing more to shut dow Japan/Europe by cutting off their supply of energy.

It'd be like the 1970s oil crisis all over again.

This would basically be a New kind of Opec trying to take over world energy production.

On the flip side

Korea/Pakistan/China are all fucked and have no future as their economies have all hit brick walls.

China could easily help North Korea invade south Korea, by just supplying bodies.

If a Korean war and a Taiwan war are being fought simultaneously, the US would have to go all out, and if the persian gulf is going to hell at the same time it's all the more wild.




If the Saudis and Iranians work together, they have control over most of the worlds oil that isn't produced by either the USA or Russia.




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Re: Would you enlist to fight ww3
« Reply #41 on: September 25, 2023, 10:53:29 AM »
WTF having your feelings hurt is worse than losing a leg? PTSD is not a real thing. That is what deadbeats claim to have to take benefit money away from guys who actually lost legs.

Have your u ever seen a Shell Shocked soldier?

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Re: Would you enlist to fight ww3
« Reply #42 on: September 25, 2023, 10:57:43 AM »
I'd join if i could stand next to Robcguns and Wes firing at the Heretics

Kwon - I’ll re-enlist on one condition. You also sign up and I get to go on “liberty” with you to chase hips and ass!!! 😛

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Re: Would you enlist to fight ww3
« Reply #43 on: September 25, 2023, 11:05:33 AM »
WTF having your feelings hurt is worse than losing a leg? PTSD is not a real thing. That is what deadbeats claim to have to take benefit money away from guys who actually lost legs.

PTSD is WAAAAYYYY overused “over diagnosed”. I wouldn’t know a percentage but I know that many absolutely DO use the PTSD copout. BUT - PTSD is 100% legitimate in many cases. TBI is a major factor as well, but if youve never seen true ptsd I can understand thinking that it’s ALL fake like the losers who abuse the system

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Re: Would you enlist to fight ww3
« Reply #44 on: September 25, 2023, 11:39:37 AM »
Kwon - I’ll re-enlist on one condition. You also sign up and I get to go on “liberty” with you to chase hips and ass!!! 😛

TEAM CHASING CHEEKS!

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Re: Would you enlist to fight ww3
« Reply #45 on: September 25, 2023, 12:12:34 PM »
Doubt that.

Rimjob you are a pussy who runs their mouth. So sit down and suck a dick like I’m sure you do daily.

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Re: Would you enlist to fight ww3
« Reply #46 on: September 25, 2023, 12:15:03 PM »
I mean if they are going to pay you 200k for a 6 month tour against a vastly inferior foreign force why wouldn't you? If you look at the statistics, you are more likely to get killed in a car accident staying home. Also wife has been offered a better job with the DOJ but it's in the Capital so have to think about it.

Don’t move Hankins, your place is to sweet to leave.

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Re: Would you enlist to fight ww3
« Reply #47 on: September 25, 2023, 12:27:38 PM »
Don’t move Hankins, your place is to sweet to leave.

Too late.  The orphans have already claimed ownership. 

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Re: Would you enlist to fight ww3
« Reply #48 on: September 25, 2023, 12:32:05 PM »
PTSD is WAAAAYYYY overused “over diagnosed”. I wouldn’t know a percentage but I know that many absolutely DO use the PTSD copout. BUT - PTSD is 100% legitimate in many cases. TBI is a major factor as well, but if youve never seen true ptsd I can understand thinking that it’s ALL fake like the losers who abuse the system
Yeah real combat PTSD is fucked up too, because it isn't just scary things, it's the adrenaline addiction. Your brain literally rewires you to be a literal adrenaline junky. High cortisol levels combined crazy amounts of dopamine is a really toxic combo.

My buddy/vet said he loved combat, even when he got shot etc he still loved it, it was like an addiction to blow. The pain and suffering began when everything gets quiet and dull. Combat just ruins your brain's ability to have fun. The more relaxed he gets the more his PTSD comes back.

Regardless it's not like an opinion, if you get ptsd the odds you have marital or financial struggles in retirement goes way way up.

It's why it's bloody rare to successful people who are combat veterans.






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Re: Would you enlist to fight ww3
« Reply #49 on: September 25, 2023, 12:59:45 PM »
The U.S. can send it's trans-battalions in the first wave.
F*ck the enemy in the azz right proper they would.