Author Topic: Baby boomers becoming homeless at a rate ‘not seen since the Great Depression’  (Read 1236 times)

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Yes, it can happen but it's rare.

Why don't they have health insurance?

It's irresponsible to not have health insurance.

You have to budget for it if your employer does not provide it.

Some people, particularly self-employed, bet they won't get sick or hurt and don't buy insurance.

They lose the bet.


I work for an insurance company, albeit re insurance. I’ve seen health insurance companies deny cancer treatment claims forcing folks to pay out of pocket. Insurance isn’t here to help people, it’s here to make money, entirely at peoples expense. For profit health care, for profit housing, for profit food and water shouldn’t be a thing.


Soon you’ll be paying extra for air without chemicals by the people who put the chemicals in the air, you’re already doing it with food and water

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Major medical emergency or death of spouse are primary causes for homelessness, as cited in the article.

This may be the case. Were you quoting the article when you posted and bolded the part where it reads 'These individuals pointed to a major event, like the death of a spouse or a medical emergency, as the trigger.' If so, I don't see where this suggests that it is the primary cause.

Most households today (58%) are dual income. If this is correct, why would the death of one spouse result in homelessness? Do these folks not have life insurance to provide for their families or their spouse? Medical emergencies are costly when you don't have medical insurance. Long term chronic illnesses are a drain on finances.

For example, my wife was chronically ill for decades prior to passing. Medical copays were a major expense for us. The last couple of years her medical copays were about $10 K a year even though she was on Medicare, and she was also covered by my employer provided health insurance. And I am not homeless.

Sure, there are some folks who have bad luck. The trick is to plan for these kinds of events rather than assume they will never happen.

Of all the people I know and that numbers in the hundreds, the only person who became homeless is an aunt. She never worked; her husband left her after many years of marriage. She was schizophrenic and therefore was on SSDI and Medicare, plus she lived in a subsidized single apartment in Venice Beach, CA. One day she simply left her apartment because she chose to be homeless, for reasons having to do with her illness.

Very often when someone is homeless, there is more to the story than they share. Far too often folks do not take responsibility. Many folks cannot admit that it is their choices which caused their unfortunate situation. Worse, they believe it is someone else's fault.     

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This may be the case. Were you quoting the article when you posted and bolded the part where it reads 'These individuals pointed to a major event, like the death of a spouse or a medical emergency, as the trigger.' If so, I don't see where this suggests that it is the primary cause.

Most households today (58%) are dual income. If this is correct, why would the death of one spouse result in homelessness? Do these folks not have life insurance to provide for their families or their spouse? Medical emergencies are costly when you don't have medical insurance. Long term chronic illnesses are a drain on finances.

For example, my wife was chronically ill for decades prior to passing. Medical copays were a major expense for us. The last couple of years her medical copays were about $10 K a year even though she was on Medicare, and she was also covered by my employer provided health insurance. And I am not homeless.

Sure, there are some folks who have bad luck. The trick is to plan for these kinds of events rather than assume they will never happen.

Of all the people I know and that numbers in the hundreds, the only person who became homeless is an aunt. She never worked; her husband left her after many years of marriage. She was schizophrenic and therefore was on SSDI and Medicare, plus she lived in a subsidized single apartment in Venice Beach, CA. One day she simply left her apartment because she chose to be homeless, for reasons having to do with her illness.

Very often when someone is homeless, there is more to the story than they share. Far too often folks do not take responsibility. Many folks cannot admit that it is their choices which caused their unfortunate situation. Worse, they believe it is someone else's fault.   


I’m not sure how most insurance works, but I have and so do my employees, max out of pocket $3,500 annually and then after that there’s no charge for anything. $10k out of pocket copays seems like you have less than stellar coverage. 

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Yes, it can happen but it's rare.

Why don't they have health insurance?

It's irresponsible to not have health insurance.

You have to budget for it if your employer does not provide it.

Some people, particularly self-employed, bet they won't get sick or hurt and don't buy insurance.

They lose the bet.

Yes, I completely agree. Even some self-employed, uninsured people manage to keep a roof over their heads. My stepdad was a self-employed painting contractor. As best as I know, he did not purchase health-insurance, but served in the military and thus had VA benefits.

My wife worked at a local college in a program called "life and career options'. The focus of the program was to prepare (mostly women with no work experience) who suddenly found themselves in dire straits because their spouse or parents had passed leaving them penniless and eventually facing homelessness. The program helped a lot of these folks get jobs and a foothold. However, many of them had been through the program before and were back. A lot of these women were abused by their partners. Many of them kept returning to the abusive situation. It was very sad. But these folks were ultimately responsible for their own misfortune.

Available low-income subsidized housing is in short supply. I am all for building more affordable housing. But I also realize there will always be some people who are homeless for a variety of reasons, mostly though this is their own doing.

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YYes, I completely agree. Even some self-employed, uninsured people manage to keep a roof over their heads. My stepdad was a self-employed painting contractor. As best as I know, he did not purchase health-insurance, but served in the military and thus had VA benefits.

My wife worked at a local college in a program called "life and career options'. The focus of the program was to prepare (mostly women with no work experience) who suddenly found themselves in dire straits because their spouse or parents had passed leaving them penniless and eventually facing homelessness. The program helped a lot of these folks get jobs and a foothold. However, many of them had been through the program before and were back. A lot of these women were abused by their partners. Many of them kept returning to the abusive situation. It was very sad. But these folks were ultimately responsible for their own misfortune.

Available low-income subsidized housing is in short supply. I am all for building more affordable housing. But I also realize there will always be some people who are homeless for a variety of reasons, mostly though this is their own doing.


is this a joke? are you f'n stupid? how long ago was this 50 years? 60? do you think that would happen today?

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Yes, it can happen but it's rare.

Why don't they have health insurance?

It's irresponsible to not have health insurance.

You have to budget for it if your employer does not provide it.

Some people, particularly self-employed, bet they won't get sick or hurt and don't buy insurance.

They lose the bet.

We have an absurd system, the result of a wwIi intervention, that causes people to lose their healthcare as a result of being separated from their job. It’s also a main reason that healthcare is so ridiculously expensive.


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I’m not sure how most insurance works, but I have and so do my employees, max out of pocket $3,500 annually and then after that there’s no charge for anything. $10k out of pocket copays seems like you have less than stellar coverage.

They do sneaky things to get around that 3.5k. And they still deny services or put up significant obstacles to getting care.

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is this a joke? are you f'n stupid? how long ago was this 50 years? 60? do you think that would happen today?

Yes I absolutely think every bit of that could happen today. Also, none of it happened 50 or 60 years ago.

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We have an absurd system, the result of a wwIi intervention, that causes people to lose their healthcare as a result of being separated from their job. It’s also a main reason that healthcare is so ridiculously expensive.

Last time I switched jobs I paid for health insurance for my famous for my three-month probation period and it cost me 6000 bucks. It didn’t hurt me at all but that is freaking rip off, I believe.

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Boomers are easily the most disliked generation.

They have all the wealth and constantly cry poor.

The younger generations are financially ruined at 20 for their entire life. They don’t complain as much as Boomers.

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They do sneaky things to get around that 3.5k. And they still deny services or put up significant obstacles to getting care.
they don’t even have to be sneaky, you’re basically at their mercy.

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Boomers are easily the most disliked generation.

They have all the wealth and constantly cry poor.

The younger generations are financially ruined at 20 for their entire life. They don’t complain as much as Boomers.

They were warned this country was headed for destruction but didn’t listen. The boomer middle class never thought they or their children would be disenfranchised while they heaped contempt on the white lower class.


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Boomers are easily the most disliked generation.

They have all the wealth and constantly cry poor.

The younger generations are financially ruined at 20 for their entire life. They don’t complain as much as Boomers.

Yeah, the WWII generation is well respected. My Generation, Gen X, is seen as cool and responsible for most of the Tech and fitness revolution. Baby Boomers are the drizzling sh!ts.

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Boomers are easily the most disliked generation.

They have all the wealth and constantly cry poor.

The younger generations are financially ruined at 20 for their entire life. They don’t complain as much as Boomers.

Bullsh*t.