1 of 4? New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud

[AbrahamG]

Old crimes that had nothing to do with Russia collusion.

What crimes?

[Dos Equis]

What crimes?

I don't remember and don't care enough to look it up, but I do remember they had nothing to do with Russia collusion.

[obsidian]

There were zero indictments involving Trump or anyone from his campaign colluding with Russia.  It is a proven fact that the dossier was fabricated and paid for by Clinton and the DNC.  The fact no one was really held accountable for that fraud set the stage for these whacked out people to do whatever they want.  There will be no consequences.

Until there are consequences. I would venture all it would take is a million armed men showing up in DC with the intent to die for their cause and willing to kill their opposition. Not like the fake 1/6 event where zero regressive leftists died. How will it play in the news if the government shoots and kills a 100,000 patriots in DC?! They will be dragged into the streets and publicly lynched. They won't be safe in their mansions either.

[AbrahamG]

I don't remember and don't care enough to look it up, but I do remember they had nothing to do with Russia collusion.

I'll go on either CNN or MSNBC's archives and report back to you.

[Agnostic007]

Greg Kelly on Newsmax just blew that ridiculous number out of the water with a listing of comps in the area. This judge is full of shit.

Jesus Frickin Christ... and this guy is registered to vote.

[AbrahamG]

Greg Kelly on Newsmax just blew that ridiculous number out of the water with a listing of comps in the area. This judge is full of shit.

Speaking of Newsmax, what the hell did John Bachman do to get taken off the air?

[Agnostic007]

No lol. Never talked to anyone with TDS in real life but some of my friends from high school are crazy Trump supporters calling for an armed revolution and the hanging and execution of Biden and Obama.   Most peeps I know and interact with are on both sides but are reasonable people. 

For me it’s the legal system that s allows a defense and the full examination and challenging of the evidence. Simply dismissing it as a bias Judge, DA or what ever doesn’t hold up because of that.  He is not getting tried in a secret courtroom or being denied his rights.  He has every chance to prove his innocence.   It’s so likely that there is too much stacked against him.

Agree completely. It seems to me, and I may be biased, that if ANY rulings, disclosures come out about Trump, certain individuals here automatically dismiss it as either "A Rhino" republican, or a "corrupt" judge. I wonder if there is ever a point when those people start to actually realize what they are doing?

[Coach is Back!]

Jesus Frickin Christ... and this guy is registered to vote.

Yeah, I am. Is that all you’ve got? Care to “fact check” him and prove him wrong? Or just go with the sources you’ve been using that went the fake “Russian Collusion” and everything else that was debunked since the day he came down that escalator? Your choice

[Agnostic007]

Yeah, I am. Is that all you’ve got? Care to “fact check” him and prove him wrong? Or just go with the sources you’ve been using that went the fake “Russian Collusion” and everything else that was debunked since the day he came down that escalator? Your choice

Continue to get your news from Newsmax anchors... a quick search tells anyone interested where they fall on the scale of accuracy. I will stick with judges... Seems to have worked so far...

[AbrahamG]

Continue to get your news from Newsmax anchors... a quick search tells anyone interested where they fall on the scale of accuracy. I will stick with judges... Seems to have worked so far...

Judges?  LOL.  Is that what the MSM told you?   

[Agnostic007]

Meanwhile, Ivanka is just having a sly smile over all this.  She has proven to be the smartest Trumpy

Your post reminded me.. Melania... all the videos of her getting caught giving Trump the stink eye... I mean, she had to know she was being filmed and still did it... I wonder what kind of marital agreement they have. She obviously isn't attracted to him, can't stand him from the video's... I wonder what the arrangement is...

[Coach is Back!]

Continue to get your news from Newsmax anchors... a quick search tells anyone interested where they fall on the scale of accuracy. I will stick with judges... Seems to have worked so far...

Dude, stop with your bullshit. Seriously. You have the political acumen a 5th grader. For fucks sake, you’re like your other mentally challenged cohorts on here that still seem to think there’s no evidence.

[LurkerNoMore]

I don't remember and don't care enough to look it up, but I do remember they had nothing to do with Russia collusion.

Just because they had nothing to do with Russia collusion doesn't mean they were not illegal and not criminal in nature.  He was charged and convicted of defrauding banks and the government, and for failing to pay taxes on millions of dollars in income he had earned,  witness tampering and money laundering conspiracy.

[LurkerNoMore]

Your post reminded me.. Melania... all the videos of her getting caught giving Trump the stink eye... I mean, she had to know she was being filmed and still did it... I wonder what kind of marital agreement they have. She obviously isn't attracted to him, can't stand him from the video's... I wonder what the arrangement is...

Hahahaha... perfect timing that you ask.  Melania is much smarter than people give her credit for.  She just recently, once again, redid her marriage prenup.      Yes, AGAIN.  She has Duhnold by the ovaries and he knows it. 

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In the wake of yet another round of legal troubles for former President Trump, after a New York state judge determined this week that he committed fraud by substantially exaggerating his wealth for business dealings, Melania is reportedly taking precautions. Page Six reports that the former first lady has renegotiated her marital prenup with Trump to protect the financial interests of her son, 17-year-old, 6’7” Barron, as her husband’s legal troubles and bills pile up. Per the tabloid’s source, this is “at least the third time” Melania has renegotiated her prenup with the former president.

“Melania is most concerned about maintaining and increasing a substantial trust for their son, Barron,” a source said, as she hoped to secure “a specific amount at minimum” for the very tall teen. Sources specified that Melania wanted the prenup to get her more money and property as well, and that a new “agreement was necessary because of the current legal battles” and the strain they put on Trump’s wealth.

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[LurkerNoMore]

Dude, stop with your bullshit. Seriously. You have the political acumen a 5th grader. For fucks sake, you’re like your other mentally challenged cohorts on here that still seem to think there’s no evidence.

Oh there is plenty of evidence.  Against Trumpy.  You seem to ignore that part.  Proving again you don't know what evidence really is.

[Coach is Back!]

“There is zero evidence” - Lurker, Agnostic, Primemuscle

[Agnostic007]

“There is zero evidence” - Lurker, Agnostic, Primemuscle

The Straw Man Fallacy
This fallacy occurs when your opponent over-simplifies or misrepresents your argument (i.e., setting up a "straw man") to make it easier to attack or refute. Instead of fully addressing your actual argument, speakers relying on this fallacy present a superficially similar — but ultimately not equal — version of your real stance, helping them create the illusion of easily defeating you.

In this case it would be Coach making up a quote and attributing it to me...

Here's a common one Coach uses all the time..

The Slothful Induction Fallacy
Slothful induction is the exact inverse of the hasty generalization fallacy above. This fallacy occurs when sufficient logical evidence strongly indicates a particular conclusion is true, but someone fails to acknowledge it, instead attributing the outcome to coincidence or something unrelated entirely.

Trump is indicted on several counts...
Coach- "Corrupt special council and judges"

After several investigations, some by Trumps own party, some by Trumps hired companies, there was no evidence found that would indicat the election was stolen.
Coach- "Fake News! They are all part of a conspiracy"

Who's really at the 5th grade level?

[obsidian]

Agree completely. It seems to me, and I may be biased, that if ANY rulings, disclosures come out about Trump, certain individuals here automatically dismiss it as either "A Rhino" republican, or a "corrupt" judge. I wonder if there is ever a point when those people start to actually realize what they are doing?

Then why was Hillary not in court after destroying evidence? The double standard is obvious. George Carlin was right. They've got the judges in their pockets. You're delusional and blind if you think otherwise.

[obsidian]

^^^^
But it won't last. USA will become Bankrupt Inc. soon. Good luck bribing judges when you're fucking broke!

[obsidian]

Oh there is plenty of evidence.  Against Trumpy.  You seem to ignore that part.  Proving again you don't know what evidence really is.

There's lots of evidence the 2020 election was stolen. Thousands of affidavits. The fact that the Supreme Court refused to look at it just means they can't say if it was stolen or not. Because they refused to look at the evidence. They have limited knowledge about the subject and are uninformed. Trump should bring all this evidence into court so we can have ourselves a real review of it all. And it needs to be a Republican judge who is not bought and paid for.

The Supreme Court proved itself useless when it allowed the Deep State to take over the USA via a coup and install a pathetic puppet. They did not even want to review all the evidence being assembled! And biden is so pathetic he can't even find the fucking podium! They have to walk him in that direction as if he is blind!

I think I'll call him bidet from now on! How did that shit stain ever receive 81 million votes?! Who is willing to admit they voted for that train wreck? I don't see any biden / bidet stickers anywhere! He was always a useless, career politician and a drain on society. How has the USA benefitted? Please name one good thing he has ever done!

[LurkerNoMore]

“There is zero evidence” - Lurker, Agnostic, Primemuscle

"It was debunked" - retarded Qoach

[LurkerNoMore]

There's lots of evidence the 2020 election was stolen. Thousands of affidavits. The fact that the Supreme Court refused to look at it just means they can't say if it was stolen or not. Because they refused to look at the evidence. They have limited knowledge about the subject and are uninformed. Trump should bring all this evidence into court so we can have ourselves a real review of it all. And it needs to be a Republican judge who is not bought and paid for.

The Supreme Court proved itself useless when it allowed the Deep State to take over the USA via a coup and install a pathetic puppet. They did not even want to review all the evidence being assembled! And biden is so pathetic he can't even find the fucking podium! They have to walk him in that direction as if he is blind!

I think I'll call him bidet from now on! How did that shit stain ever receive 81 million votes?! Who is willing to admit they voted for that train wreck? I don't see any biden / bidet stickers anywhere! He was always a useless, career politician and a drain on society. How has the USA benefitted? Please name one good thing he has ever done!

Those affidavits do not equal evidence when coming from liars.   That's why all those cases were thrown out and the Supreme Court wasn't going to waste their time. 

And if Trumpy - or MyPillow - Or all the others have so much evidence it was stolen why hasn't it been released yet?  What's the hold up?

[obsidian]

Those affidavits do not equal evidence when coming from liars.   That's why all those cases were thrown out and the Supreme Court wasn't going to waste their time. 

And if Trumpy - or MyPillow - Or all the others have so much evidence it was stolen why hasn't it been released yet?  What's the hold up?

How do they know they are liars without looking at the evidence?! That's saying someone is guilty before proven innocent! It does not work that way dumb fuck! Then we could make the same argument. Everyone on the left is a liar! Let's steal the election and use that same argument!

[chaos]

Hahahaha... perfect timing that you ask.  Melania is much smarter than people give her credit for.  She just recently, once again, redid her marriage prenup.      Yes, AGAIN.  She has Duhnold by the ovaries and he knows it. 

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In the wake of yet another round of legal troubles for former President Trump, after a New York state judge determined this week that he committed fraud by substantially exaggerating his wealth for business dealings, Melania is reportedly taking precautions. Page Six reports that the former first lady has renegotiated her marital prenup with Trump to protect the financial interests of her son, 17-year-old, 6’7” Barron, as her husband’s legal troubles and bills pile up. Per the tabloid’s source, this is “at least the third time” Melania has renegotiated her prenup with the former president.

“Melania is most concerned about maintaining and increasing a substantial trust for their son, Barron,” a source said, as she hoped to secure “a specific amount at minimum” for the very tall teen. Sources specified that Melania wanted the prenup to get her more money and property as well, and that a new “agreement was necessary because of the current legal battles” and the strain they put on Trump’s wealth.

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So? Are you saying you wouldn't want to protect yours and your childs potential assets? Maybe she's concerned he'll Epstein himself?

[LurkerNoMore]

So? Are you saying you wouldn't want to protect yours and your childs potential assets? Maybe she's concerned he'll Epstein himself?

The very fact that I posted that info along with my comment of "Melania is much smarter than people give her credit for" would obviously indicate it to be so.