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Re: 1 of 4? New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud
« Reply #125 on: September 30, 2023, 06:28:37 PM »
How do they know they are liars without looking at the evidence?! That's saying someone is guilty before proven innocent! It does not work that way dumb fuck! Then we could make the same argument. Everyone on the left is a liar! Let's steal the election and use that same argument!

You have to actually have SOMETHING that is valid and able to stand as evidence.  They didn't.   ::)

It's been explained to you more than once and you are still too stupid to understand it.  That's your problem. 

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Re: 1 of 4? New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud
« Reply #126 on: September 30, 2023, 10:31:35 PM »
There's lots of evidence the 2020 election was stolen. Thousands of affidavits. The fact that the Supreme Court refused to look at it just means they can't say if it was stolen or not. Because they refused to look at the evidence. They have limited knowledge about the subject and are uninformed. Trump should bring all this evidence into court so we can have ourselves a real review of it all. And it needs to be a Republican judge who is not bought and paid for.

The Supreme Court proved itself useless when it allowed the Deep State to take over the USA via a coup and install a pathetic puppet. They did not even want to review all the evidence being assembled! And biden is so pathetic he can't even find the fucking podium! They have to walk him in that direction as if he is blind!

I think I'll call him bidet from now on! How did that shit stain ever receive 81 million votes?! Who is willing to admit they voted for that train wreck? I don't see any biden / bidet stickers anywhere! He was always a useless, career politician and a drain on society. How has the USA benefitted? Please name one good thing he has ever done!

Not true... simply bullshit... courts that looked at the evidence have been posted here ad nauseum . I can only surmise at this point Trumpsters refuse to even look at the evidence so that they can post things like this.. that "courts refused to look at it" Where the hell have you been for the last 2 years? You sould like you have been isolated from news and updates...

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Re: 1 of 4? New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud
« Reply #127 on: October 01, 2023, 08:33:06 AM »
Not true... simply bullshit... courts that looked at the evidence have been posted here ad nauseum . I can only surmise at this point Trumpsters refuse to even look at the evidence so that they can post things like this.. that "courts refused to look at it" Where the hell have you been for the last 2 years? You sould like you have been isolated from news and updates...


Vampires hate garlic.
Superman hates Kryptonite.
Trumpturds hate facts and reality.

It must be frustrating to be trapped in a delusional world like that 24/7 for people like him and Qoach.

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Re: 1 of 4? New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud
« Reply #128 on: October 01, 2023, 01:56:36 PM »
 ;)
What you posted was rambling and not relevant to my comments.  That's why I asked.  Just trying to understand what you were saying.  Thanks for clarifying. 

Regarding Trump, remind me again which one of us gets emails from Trump and cannot stop talking about him?   :)

To be honest, I am no longer reading Trump's emails. There is nothing new in them, just more whining, self-pity, requests for donations. They now go directly into a spam folder which is where they belong.  :)

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Re: 1 of 4? New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud
« Reply #129 on: October 01, 2023, 05:04:46 PM »

"Contempt makes persuasion impossible — no one has ever been hated into agreement, after all — so its expression is either petty self-indulgence or cheap virtue signaling, neither of which wins converts."
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Good thing I don't care about converting retards.

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Re: 1 of 4? New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud
« Reply #130 on: October 02, 2023, 09:34:53 AM »
Hahahaha.   He is sitting there in scared puppy mode.  Let's see him call James "deranged" now and all those other little attack words he has been using. 

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Re: 1 of 4? New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud
« Reply #131 on: October 02, 2023, 03:19:18 PM »
Hahaahahahahaa.   You know you are scraping the bottom of the barrel when your own attorneys forgot to request a jury trial.  Watch the orange moron try to use this as an excuse for not having a fair trial.   ;D

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New York Judge Arthur Ergoron on Monday said that he is holding a bench trial in New York Attorney General fraud lawsuit against former President because "nobody asked for" a jury trial on either side, The Messenger's Adam Klasfeld reported. "Trump isn't getting a jury trial in his $250m civil fraud suit brought against him by New York AG James because his legal team didn't request one on the paperwork."
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Re: 1 of 4? New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud
« Reply #132 on: October 02, 2023, 03:38:41 PM »
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Re: 1 of 4? New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud
« Reply #133 on: October 02, 2023, 04:32:39 PM »
Hahahaha.   He is sitting there in scared puppy mode.  Let's see him call James "deranged" now and all those other little attack words he has been using.

Fucking hilarious since he chose to be there when he didn’t have too. Dumbass

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Re: 1 of 4? New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud
« Reply #134 on: October 02, 2023, 04:36:01 PM »
Trump judge faces online backlash after smiling, posing for cameras in courtroom: 'Partisan Democrat clown'


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-judge-faces-online-backlash-smiling-posing-cameras-courtroom-democrat-clown


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Re: 1 of 4? New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud
« Reply #135 on: October 02, 2023, 04:44:55 PM »
Judge Conceded That the Statute of Limitations Are in Effect – All Transactions That Closed Prior to 2014 Are Now Out of the Case (VIDEO)

President Trump and his lawyers on Monday spoke to the press outside of a New York City courthouse after the conclusion of the opening day of the non-jury trial in a civil fraud case brought by Stalinist Letitia James.

Trump and an attorney for Trump said the judge conceded that the statute of limitations is in effect on transactions that closed prior to 2014, which makes up 80% of the case.

New York Judge Arthur Engoron ruled last Tuesday that Trump and Trump Org. are liable for fraud.

The judge also ruled that Mar-a-Lago is worth $18 million – of course, no one in the real estate business is buying this.

Earlier Monday President Trump blasted the radical judge as he held up a new report from Palm Beach County.

“Why are we trying a case that the appellate division of New York state has just ruled recently that we won 80% of our case and this judge refuses to acknowledge the ruling, which is plain for all to see,” Trump said.

Trump continued, “This rogue judge, a Trump hater… refuses to acknowledge the fact that we won 80% of this case, including the statute of limitations…It just came out a few minutes ago from Palm Beach County…the judge valued Mar-a-Lago at $18 million and it’s worth a billion dollars, maybe $1.5 billion Trump and his lawyers emerged from the courthouse after the court session ended Monday afternoon.

President Trump said Judge Engoron conceded that the statute of limitations are in effect.

A lawyer for Trump spoke on this: “Based on the judge’s comments at the end of the trial, it would appear that he is agreeing that all the transactions that closed prior to 2014 are now out of the case.”

Trump chimed in: “Which are about 80% of the case.”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/trump-attorney-judge-conceded-that-all-transactions-that/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=trump-attorney-judge-conceded-that-all-transactions-that




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Re: 1 of 4? New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud
« Reply #136 on: October 02, 2023, 07:20:55 PM »
Judge Conceded That the Statute of Limitations Are in Effect – All Transactions That Closed Prior to 2014 Are Now Out of the Case (VIDEO)

President Trump and his lawyers on Monday spoke to the press outside of a New York City courthouse after the conclusion of the opening day of the non-jury trial in a civil fraud case brought by Stalinist Letitia James.

Trump and an attorney for Trump said the judge conceded that the statute of limitations is in effect on transactions that closed prior to 2014, which makes up 80% of the case.

New York Judge Arthur Engoron ruled last Tuesday that Trump and Trump Org. are liable for fraud.

The judge also ruled that Mar-a-Lago is worth $18 million – of course, no one in the real estate business is buying this.

Earlier Monday President Trump blasted the radical judge as he held up a new report from Palm Beach County.

“Why are we trying a case that the appellate division of New York state has just ruled recently that we won 80% of our case and this judge refuses to acknowledge the ruling, which is plain for all to see,” Trump said.

Trump continued, “This rogue judge, a Trump hater… refuses to acknowledge the fact that we won 80% of this case, including the statute of limitations…It just came out a few minutes ago from Palm Beach County…the judge valued Mar-a-Lago at $18 million and it’s worth a billion dollars, maybe $1.5 billion Trump and his lawyers emerged from the courthouse after the court session ended Monday afternoon.

President Trump said Judge Engoron conceded that the statute of limitations are in effect.

A lawyer for Trump spoke on this: “Based on the judge’s comments at the end of the trial, it would appear that he is agreeing that all the transactions that closed prior to 2014 are now out of the case.”

Trump chimed in: “Which are about 80% of the case.”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/trump-attorney-judge-conceded-that-all-transactions-that/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=trump-attorney-judge-conceded-that-all-transactions-that

Most of the case has been gutted?  You would think this would be the MSM lead. 

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Re: 1 of 4? New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud
« Reply #137 on: October 03, 2023, 07:55:15 AM »
Fucking hilarious since he chose to be there when he didn’t have too. Dumbass

He had two choices for what he had to do yesterday.  Attend trial or sit for a deposition.  He chose being there over having to give a deposition where he would be put under oath and face perjury for lying. 

Not exactly much of a choice when someone who lies as much as he does is concerned. 

This is pretty common knowledge "dumbass".   Again, retardation was a survival skill that God gifted you with.

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Re: 1 of 4? New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud
« Reply #138 on: October 03, 2023, 08:13:42 AM »
Trump makes wild claim that 80% of fraud case could be THROWN OUT because statute of limitations has expired: President gives thumbs up in court - as judge slams prosecutors for a 'waste of time' for having accountants testify

  • Trump tore into Judge Arthur Engoron steps outside his courthouse
  • He accused him of having 'contempt for his own court system'
  • Later Trump said Engoron made a 'very fair' statement in court


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12586351/Trump-makes-wild-claim-80-fraud-case-THROWN-statute-limitations-expired-President-gives-thumbs-court-judge-slams-prosecutors-waste-time-having-accountants-testify.html

I would be completely blown away if Trump accusers neglected to factor in a statute of limitations in this case.

But who the fuck knows?  lol

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Re: 1 of 4? New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud
« Reply #139 on: October 03, 2023, 08:37:01 AM »
Trump makes wild claim that 80% of fraud case could be THROWN OUT because statute of limitations has expired: President gives thumbs up in court - as judge slams prosecutors for a 'waste of time' for having accountants testify

  • Trump tore into Judge Arthur Engoron steps outside his courthouse
  • He accused him of having 'contempt for his own court system'
  • Later Trump said Engoron made a 'very fair' statement in court


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12586351/Trump-makes-wild-claim-80-fraud-case-THROWN-statute-limitations-expired-President-gives-thumbs-court-judge-slams-prosecutors-waste-time-having-accountants-testify.html

I would be completely blown away if Trump accusers neglected to factor in a statute of limitations in this case.

But who the fuck knows?  lol

I have been before Engoran before.  I think it was 6 years ago.  He was old and senile then.   Saying Mara Lago is only worth 18 Million discredits the entire thing. 

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Re: 1 of 4? New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud
« Reply #140 on: October 03, 2023, 11:28:26 AM »
Fucking hilarious since he chose to be there when he didn’t have too. Dumbass

He isn't showing up to testify, so no he did not have to be there. However, he cannot pass up the opportunity to campaign and since he has nothing else to run a campaign on besides his victimhood at this point, he kind of has to show up for the media attention. Although on Monday the news media other than FOX shut him down when they turned of the mic. Yahoo!

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Re: 1 of 4? New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud
« Reply #141 on: October 03, 2023, 11:30:09 AM »
I have been before Engoran before.  I think it was 6 years ago.  He was old and senile then.   Saying Mara Lago is only worth 18 Million discredits the entire thing.

I take it the judge didn't rule in your favor.  :)

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Re: 1 of 4? New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud
« Reply #142 on: October 03, 2023, 12:06:29 PM »
He isn't showing up to testify, so no he did not have to be there. However, he cannot pass up the opportunity to campaign and since he has nothing else to run a campaign on besides his victimhood at this point, he kind of has to show up for the media attention. Although on Monday the news media other than FOX shut him down when they turned of the mic. Yahoo!

He showed up only so he could dodge having to sit for a deposition in the $500 Million lawsuit that HE filed against Cohen. 

You would think he would be eager to get that $500M into his pocket that he would make that deposition a priority.  But no....  perjury is real.   :D

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Re: 1 of 4? New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud
« Reply #143 on: October 03, 2023, 12:14:28 PM »
Trump makes wild claim that 80% of fraud case could be THROWN OUT because statute of limitations has expired: President gives thumbs up in court - as judge slams prosecutors for a 'waste of time' for having accountants testify

  • Trump tore into Judge Arthur Engoron steps outside his courthouse
  • He accused him of having 'contempt for his own court system'
  • Later Trump said Engoron made a 'very fair' statement in court


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12586351/Trump-makes-wild-claim-80-fraud-case-THROWN-statute-limitations-expired-President-gives-thumbs-court-judge-slams-prosecutors-waste-time-having-accountants-testify.html

I would be completely blown away if Trump accusers neglected to factor in a statute of limitations in this case.

But who the fuck knows?  lol



Judge brutally debunks Trump's claim that he threw out most of the NY fraud case against him
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Judge+brutally+debunks+Trump%27s+claim+that+he+threw+out+most+of+the+NY+fraud+case+against+him

The judge presiding over former President Donald Trump's New York civil fraud trial shut down Trump's assertion to reporters at the end of the trial's opening day Monday that he had suddenly reversed himself on the statute of limitations. To start Tuesday's proceedings, New York State Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron clarified that Trump's comments were not true, according to The Messenger, explaining that his ruling last week ordering the dissolution of several of Trump's businesses found the former president had committed fraud every time he submitted a false statement of financial condition (SFC) to insurers and banks.

Though Trump's defense argued that the relevant conduct is when the loan "closed," Engoron rejected that theory, reiterating his reasoning again in court. "Every use of a [false] statement of financial condition in business starts the statute of limitations running again," Engoron said Tuesday morning, noting that he understands that Trump's attorneys "strongly" disagree with his argument and will likely appeal the ruling.

Trump's Monday remarks stemmed from the judge's exchange with his attorneys following hours of testimony from Donald Bender, a former accountant Trump's businesses had used whose examination largely hinged on documents from 2011 while an appellate court warned that only events from three years later fall within the applicable state of limitations. Later that day, Engoron declared that Bender's testimony must connect to events on or after 2014 in order to be relevant, which prompted the former president's remarks. But Engoron's recent decision finding Trump liable for fraud cited actions after 2014 and found that the relevant issue is when they were "completed," which includes the moments when Trump "still obligated to, and did, annually submit current SFCs to comply with the terms of the loan agreements."

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Re: 1 of 4? New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud
« Reply #144 on: October 03, 2023, 02:10:27 PM »
How’s that partial gag order taste?

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Re: 1 of 4? New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud
« Reply #145 on: October 03, 2023, 02:32:58 PM »
How’s that partial gag order taste?

About as good as yours. He issued it for both sides, dippy

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Re: 1 of 4? New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud
« Reply #146 on: October 03, 2023, 04:08:59 PM »
About as good as yours. He issued it for both sides, dippy

Only one side was doing the lying and attacking you clueless retard. 

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Re: 1 of 4? New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud
« Reply #147 on: October 03, 2023, 09:10:55 PM »
Only one side was doing the lying and attacking you clueless retard.

"As for the gag order, without naming Trump, Engoron said that a defendant in the case "posted to a social media account a disparaging, untrue and personally identifying post about a member of my staff." He added that "personal attacks on members of my court staff are unacceptable, not appropriate" and not tolerated"

It's true it was issued to include both sides. But only a moron would think it wasn't aimed at Trump. Trump is pretty damn stupid. His judgement is so bad, I still find it hard to believe any rational adult would want this clown as president. Having the emotional growth of a 7 year old is a dangerous thing.

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Re: 1 of 4? New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud
« Reply #148 on: October 03, 2023, 09:42:35 PM »
Trump is pretty damn stupid. His judgement is so bad, I still find it hard to believe any rational adult would want this clown as president. Having the emotional growth of a 7 year old is a dangerous thing.
You could easily replace Trump with Bite'm and the sentence would make better sense.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: 1 of 4? New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for fraud
« Reply #149 on: October 03, 2023, 10:03:27 PM »
Only one side was doing the lying and attacking you clueless retard.

Yeah..the ones that no nothing about real estate