Guys are so delusional about how they look. Most if they rated them self on a 1 to 10 scale they would all say 8 and above when they look like gargoyles. Same with physique.
Guys are in love with the permabulker look thinking they look big in clothes. On the beach they look like complete out of shape garbage. If you want to be lean you have to let go of the ego and just lose the weight. Look at the weight and height of elite sprinters, wrestlers, boxers and MMA guys. Most 5'10" guys are under 170lbs. This is where permabulkers bring in the NFL. No, you're not carrying the muscle an NFL running back is. That 5'10" 210lbs running back is pure hard muscle.
To be in great shape means you're not going to carry a big weight on the scale. When I get really lean I look like nothing in clothes but look decent on the beach. Then again I would never call myself a bodybuilder. To me that's a guy that juices and never shows pictures off the juice.