SARMS

[Gym Rat]

Any of you fellers here ever experiment w/ SARMS?? (RAD-140, 150, etc)?

If so, what were your findings?  Good?? Bunk?? Junk?? (in da trunk)?
Only thing I tried was MK-677 (not really a SARM). But had to stop it within days (crazy lethargy)...

[Matt]

My friend / friend of Bast's uses SARMS. He thinks they are great.

As I understand it, you ARE the experiment when on SARMS? Is that true?

[falco]

Used peptides to recover from a partial tear and it did wonders. SARMS never used.

[Gym Rat]

Used peptides to recover from a partial tear and it did wonders. SARMS never used.

FDA now going after Peptides... I'm guessing UGL's (or oversea's sellers) will always have them though, just like they do for anabolics.

[beakdoctor]

They work for maintaining muscle on restricted calories.  You can get pretty dry and cut but I've never seen anyone make great gains on SARMS. While you're using them you won't lose muscle regardless of calories, Many were designed to prevent muscle wasting in cancer patients.

There's hundreds of youtube videos of guys giving their reviews and almost all of them look like they don't even lift. They almost never show a legit 'before and after' picture and when they do post one (unaltered) the gains are nominal at best. Plus most still require some form of a testosterone supplementation for estrogen as well as a pct.

I've taken a few over the years and my experiences pretty much confirms this.

 Also the quality control seems to be an issue I've used mk677 3 times. The first time I got extreme lethargy, and an insane appetite. Every minor injury I ever had recovered but I gained a ton of weight too, not good weight. The two other times I used it I experienced none of that. No appetite,  no lethargy, no improvement recovery. Zip.

[Griffith]

I have used Ostarine, RAD-140 and MK-677.

MK-677 I still do use quite regularly, excellent for recovery and sleep.

Ostarine gave me the best strength increases and helped heal a shoulder injury and there were very few negative side effects. Gained leaned muscle, became very lean, lost fat, maybe gained 2 kg's but quality.

RAD-140, gained 10 kg's, had extreme muscle pumps and increased aggression, my joints felt dry though so my strength was considerably less than Osterine, despite being a lot bigger.

I would use Osterine again though.

[Lartinos]

I have used Ostarine, RAD-140 and MK-677.

MK-677 I still do use quite regularly, excellent for recovery and sleep.

Ostarine gave me the best strength increases and helped heal a shoulder injury and there were very few negative side effects. Gained leaned muscle, became very lean, lost fat, maybe gained 2 kg's but quality.

RAD-140, gained 10 kg's, had extreme muscle pumps and increased aggression, my joints felt dry though so my strength was considerably less than Osterine, despite being a lot bigger.

I would use Osterine again though.

How was the shutdown on testes and how you felt afterwards off everything.

[liberty]

 
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[wes]

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60 tablets for 120 bux.....I`ll pass.

[liberty]

Rather try this for $30
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[deadz]

SARMS=waste of time, money and health. Test is De Best!

[wes]

Rather try this for $30
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No thanks brother.

[Gym Rat]

SARMS=waste of time, money and health. Test is De Best!

From what I read, you're not wrong... Most say they are bunk/junk...

[oldtimer1]

Seems like the new snake oil comes out every 10-15 years.

[beakdoctor]

Seems like the new snake oil comes out every 10-15 years.

How was the shutdown on testes and how you felt afterwards off everything.

https://primesportsnutrition.com/products/mk677-galactiplus?variant=44165873172717&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIxdSM6MH7gQMViDfUAR2FPQW3EAQYAyABEgJR_vD_BwE

Well, they're not exactly snake oil. They do work. Take one of the milder AAS and it's probably comparable to one of the stronger SARMS. S4, S23 and Rad-140 will all give you similar results to mild steroid.

The site charging 120 bucks for 60 tabs is crazy. Most reputable places charge half that. About 60-70 for a couple months. You can get them cheaper if you but powder. Like 3 months for 50 bucks. But I haven't bought any in awhile so prices may have gone up. They seem to be very popular now among gym-bros.

As far as suppression.  Yes. First did one about 8 years ago. All the literature said no sides, not hard on hair, not hard on liver, it won't cause shutdown... yeah bullshit. Blood work came back with low T and E. Liver was fine. HdL/LDL both low. Did not plan a pct so felt like shit for about a month or so. Noticed Zero gains.  I think I used it for 4 to 6 weeks. Later found out it needs to be run around 8-10 weeks to start getting results.  A few years later, there was more data available and tried a few different ones with better results.

[Irongrip400]

Seems like the new snake oil comes out every 10-15 years.

I remember when I used to fuck around with gear 20 years ago it was igf1. Not sure if it’s still a thing, but I feel sarms may have been out then too.

What’s the difference between igf1, HGH and sarms?

[beakdoctor]

I remember when I used to fuck around with gear 20 years ago it was igf1. Not sure if it’s still a thing, but I feel sarms may have been out then too.

What’s the difference between igf1, HGH and sarms?

I think igf1 and igf2 are hormones similar to insulin. Apparently there are a lot of health benefits to it. And HGH also hormonal.

SARMS are entirely synthetic supposed to selectively bind to androgen receptor to give a high anabolic to androgenic ratio. SARMS will not show up on a drug test and won't show elevated T levels, unless they test specifically for that SARM which VADA and WADA do now.