Dolph VS Carl Weathers

[Kwon]

Sylvester Stallone decided that for the shooting of the fight in "Rocky IV" (1985), he and Dolph Lundgren should hit one another for real, so as to increase the intensity of the scene. After doing three takes of Rocky taking shots to ribs, Stallone felt a burning in his chest, but ignored it. Later that night, he had difficulty breathing and was taken to a nearby emergency room. It was discovered that his blood pressure was over 200, and he had to be flown on a low-altitude flight from Canada to St. John's Hospital in Santa Monica, where he remained in intensive care for four days. What had happened was that Lungren had punched him so hard in the chest, Stallone's heart had slammed up against his breastbone and began to swell, cutting off the blood supply and restricting the oxygen flow throughout the body.

Stallone's insurance company thought he was faking it, saying that his injuries looked more "from head-on collisions when the steering wheels hit you in the chest." Stallone replied, "Have you seen Dolph Lundgren? That's a truck! That's a steering wheel! That's a head-on collision!" His insurance company honored the claim soon after that.

Over 8,000 people auditioned for the part of Ivan Drago. Lundgren was first turned down by the casting directors for being too tall but later on, he got the chance to send photos and meet Stallone who told him he had a good chance to get the part, but advised him to gain twenty pounds of muscle. In total, it took Lundgren several months to win the part.

During filming, Lundgren and Carl Weathers really did not get along and got into an altercation. Lundgren threw Weathers into a corner of the boxing ring. After that, Weathers shouted profanities at Lundgren while leaving the ring and announced that he was calling his agent and quitting the movie.

Only after Stallone forced the two actors to reconcile did the movie continue.

This event caused a four-day work stoppage while Weathers was talked back into the part and Lundgren agreed to tone down his aggressiveness.

Happy Birthday, Dolph Lundgren!

[joswift]

Black people always try and ruin everything 

[Kwon]

Black people always try and ruin everything 

Exactly

What gives? Ruining Slys movie like that?

[Fortress]

Dolph was a beast during that time.

Have known for decades about Sly being injured during a ring scene.

Lundgren was/isn’t a joke. And in 1985, tangling with him was serious business, for action scenes OR for real.

[wes]

"Big shots,the three of them. Get 'em all in a back room, smack 'em around, no more big shots". 

[oldschoolfan]

Dolph was a beast during that time.

Have known for decades about Sly being injured during a ring scene.

Lundgren was/isn’t a joke. And in 1985, tangling with him was serious business, for action scenes OR for real.

Dolph is a black belt in kyokushin karate which is a hard striking form I believe he kick boxed as well he was a beast in 85 and a physical specimen a big jacked athletic dude he was a fucking beast in he man and big showdown in lil Tokyo

[G_Thang]

[Dalnet]

I can imagine. Carl Weathers is/was considered as a good actor that had ability to be leading character as well as supporting character. One of those passionate, studious types that really gets into the 'art'. There was a similar hatred between Martin Shaw and Lewis Collins in The Professionals. Shaw was one of those Shakespearean trained classical actors that studied it as an art form whereas Collins was just lucky to get a part in it as an alpha male man's man. Shaw thought he was far superior than Collins; whom he considered a joke. They hated each other but did the parts for the money.

Weathers probably thought of Lundgren as just a 'tough guy' with no talent for the screen. Probably jealous of him, tbh.

[oldschoolfan]

I can imagine. Carl Weathers is/was considered as a good actor that had ability to be leading character as well as supporting character. One of those passionate, studious types that really gets into the 'art'. There was a similar hatred between Martin Shaw and Lewis Collins in The Professionals. Shaw was one of those Shakespearean trained classical actors that studied it as an art form whereas Collins was just lucky to get a part in it as an alpha male man's man. Shaw thought he was far superior than Collins; whom he considered a joke. They hated each other but did the parts for the money.

Weathers probably thought of Lundgren as just a 'tough guy' with no talent for the screen. Probably jealous of him, tbh.

Carl was a good athlete and looked like a million bucks he was a huge part of Rocky’s success no doubt

[Fortress]

Carl was a good athlete and looked like a million bucks he was a huge part of Rocky’s success no doubt

Yeah, him, Dolph, and Sly, are manly men (no homo). There was no shortage of T on that movie set.

Stallone did SO much boxing training over the course of all those films his trainer has stated the dude developed legit pugilist skills and could punch like a demon.

[Goliathon]

Sylvester Stallone decided that for the shooting of the fight in "Rocky IV" (1985), he and Dolph Lundgren should hit one another for real, so as to increase the intensity of the scene. After doing three takes of Rocky taking shots to ribs, Stallone felt a burning in his chest, but ignored it. Later that night, he had difficulty breathing and was taken to a nearby emergency room. It was discovered that his blood pressure was over 200, and he had to be flown on a low-altitude flight from Canada to St. John's Hospital in Santa Monica, where he remained in intensive care for four days. What had happened was that Lungren had punched him so hard in the chest, Stallone's heart had slammed up against his breastbone and began to swell, cutting off the blood supply and restricting the oxygen flow throughout the body.

Stallone's insurance company thought he was faking it, saying that his injuries looked more "from head-on collisions when the steering wheels hit you in the chest." Stallone replied, "Have you seen Dolph Lundgren? That's a truck! That's a steering wheel! That's a head-on collision!" His insurance company honored the claim soon after that.

Yeah it was the punch and not the mountain of blow he was doing. Guy was juiced to the gills and ingesting mountains of blow in his late 30s. Obviously the insurance company could read between the lines.

It's like Van Damme being Bipolar, you're not bipolar, you did mountains of blow and became bipolar as a result.

No different than the land whale claiming to be big boned.

[Humble Narcissist]

Dolph was a beast during that time.

Have known for decades about Sly being injured during a ring scene.

Lundgren was/isn’t a joke. And in 1985, tangling with him was serious business, for action scenes OR for real.

Really good Karate fighter in a very brutal style.

[Taffin]

Funnily enough, I randomly ended up watching Predator again at the weekend.  Like Silence of the Lambs, or maybe Aliens, it's one of those films that if I stumble across a replay I've gotta watch the whole thing (again)  I always thought Weathers held up against the bigger guys on set

And I've confessed on here before that when I first started training, I had in my mind (oh brother) Dolph as He-Man... homo confirmed...

[Kwon]

Yeah it was the punch and not the mountain of blow he was doing. Guy was juiced to the gills and ingesting mountains of blow in his late 30s. Obviously the insurance company could read between the lines.

It's like Van Damme being Bipolar, you're not bipolar, you did mountains of blow and became bipolar as a result.

No different than the land whale claiming to be big boned.

Really good Karate fighter in a very brutal style.

[Fortress]

Really good Karate fighter in a very brutal style.

Really brutal fighter in a Karate style.

[Dave D]

Really brutal fighter in a Karate style.

Brutal fighter if karate.

[oldschoolfan]

Yeah, him, Dolph, and Sly, are manly men (no homo). There was no shortage of T on that movie set.

Stallone did SO much boxing training over the course of all those films his trainer has stated the dude developed legit pugilist skills and could punch like a demon.

fortress i truly beleive that he brought in joe frazier to spar with for rocky 3 stallone said frazier killed him.  every actor who has worked with stallone said he had more will power than anyone.

[Fortress]

fortress i truly beleive that he brought in joe frazier to spar with for rocky 3 stallone said frazier killed him.  every actor who has worked with stallone said he had more will power than anyone.

Referencing that tough guy thread, there’s very little doubt Sylvester is a tough guy.

Throughout the decades many have spoken of his willpower, grit and determination.

Put it this way, in a fight between him and The (j)Oak, in their primes, Fortress’s bank would be on Rambo.

[oldschoolfan]

Referencing that tough guy thread, there’s very little doubt Sylvester is a tough guy.

Throughout the decades many have spoken of his willpower, grit and determination.

Put it this way, in a fight between him and The (j) Oak, in their primes, Fortress’s bank would be on Rambo.

I would take Stallone as well

[pamith]

My nikka

[Sandrock]

Funnily enough, I randomly ended up watching Predator again at the weekend.  Like Silence of the Lambs, or maybe Aliens, it's one of those films that if I stumble across a replay I've gotta watch the whole thing (again)  I always thought Weathers held up against the bigger guys on set

And I've confessed on here before that when I first started training, I had in my mind (oh brother) Dolph as He-Man... homo confirmed...

I didn't like the MOTU movie when I was young but after the sheer amount of CGI shitfests that have been crapped out I appreciate it now(yes I'm a nerd).  Still wish it had been on Eternia and looked like the cartoon backgrounds though.

Did you ever look Dolph as He-Man-ish, Taffin?

[Humble Narcissist]

Really brutal fighter in a Karate style.

Kyokushin has a lot of brutal fighters. Mas Oyama (the founder) was a badass.

[SirGossip]

Clearly you people missed the boxing rematch that took place between Carl and Dolph. The matter has been settled.

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[Kwon]

Brutal fighter if karate.

Karate if Brutal

[Kwon]

My nikka

Brutal if Karate