The answer to: "Why am I fat?"

[IroNat]

I am on (typically) 100g protein/200gcarbs/100g fat a day. Weight stays constant, have enough energy for aerobics (running, cycling) and feel full. Total calorie intake hovers between 2000-2200 a day.

A 50g carb level is ridiculous.

Restricting calories definitely works to control bodyweight but it takes will-power and discipline.

Addicts have none so it doesn't work for them.

This is why The Biggest Losers usually always regain the weight they lost on the show.

The methods used on the show (starvation and excessive exercise) are not sustainable.  They are painful.

[Rambone]

It's science. 

Insulin and glucose levels rule the hunger reflex.

Do some research.

What’s your opinion on all of the studies that show there’s no difference in a higher fat diet vs. a higher carb when calories are equal?

[Rambone]

Restricting calories definitely works to control bodyweight but it takes will-power and discipline.

Addicts have none.

First it was carbs. Now it’s will power. What else is it?

[IroNat]

What’s your opinion on all of the studies that show there’s no difference in a higher fat diet vs. a higher carb when calories are equal?

This is true but you will always be hungry on the carb version.

That is why it is not a sustainable weight loss strategy.

This is why Americans have a 70% obesity rate.

[IroNat]

First it was carbs. Now it’s will power. What else is it?

Go back and re-read my initial post to understand.

If you observe really fat people they have a addictive relationship to food like a drug addict.

A heroin addict craves the drug and cannot stop.  Really fat people are the same with food.

[Rambone]

Post your most recent glucose, a1c, and cholesterol and I’ll do mine. Lowest in each category is the champion of Getbig. “Do your research” oh brother!

[MajorDomo]

It's science. 

Insulin and glucose levels rule the hunger reflex.

Do some research.

Part but not all

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8280794/

"Combined mechano‐ and chemoreceptors, peripherally released peptide hormones and neural pathways provide feedback to the brain to determine sensations of hunger (increase energy intake) or satiation (cessation of energy intake) and regulate the human metabolism."

[Rambone]

Go back and re-read my initial post to understand.

If you observe really fat people they have a addictive relationship to food like a drug addict.

A heroin addict craves the drug and cannot stop.  Really fat people are the same with food.

I did. “Will power” was not mentioned. The average person also greatly under-consumes protein and fiber which are both very satiating and helps blunt this so called insulin boogie man of yours. Do your research.   

[IroNat]

Post your most recent glucose, a1c, and cholesterol and I’ll do mine. Lowest in each category is the champion of Getbig. “Do your research” oh brother!

Not relevant.

This is about fat and how to stop being obese.

You seem to be taking this personally.  Are you obese?

[Rambone]

Not relevant.

This is about fat and how to stop being obese.

You seem to be taking this personally.  Are you obese?

Nope. Im in a lot better shape than you. You just seem smug about the topic

[Royalty]

It’s pretty obvious from Rambone’s pic that he has his training and nutrition on fucking POINT.

[IroNat]

Nope. Im in a lot better shape than you. You just seem smug about the topic

I am not being smug and commend you for being fit.

You can be slim on a high carb diet if you keep calories in check but that takes discipline.

Food addicts don't have it.  Really fat people are addicted to food.

[IroNat]

It’s pretty obvious from Rambone’s pic that he has his training and nutrition on fucking POINT.

I thought that was a pic of Bhanky.

Looking good, Rambone.

I looked like that at 25 when I was training like a madman.

Now, I am 65 and trying to hold on to whatever I've still got.

[Rambone]

I am not being smug and commend you for being fit.

You can be slim on a high carb diet if you keep calories in check but that takes discipline.

Food addicts don't have it.  Really fat people are addicted to food.

So we went from carbs are bad to will power to food addiction. The narrative keeps changing like climate change. I’m forced to eat more carbs just to maintain my body weight thanks to having some lean muscle mass eating up glucose. Like I said before, move around, weight train, dont be a piece of shit, don’t over-consume calories and hit some protein and fiber goals to feel satiated. It’s not just the carbs. The majority of it is the tasty, convenient calories and a lack of exercise. I wouldn’t call every obese person a “food addict”

[Rambone]

I thought that was a pic of Bhanky.

Looking good, Rambone.

I looked like that at 25 when I was training like a madman.

Now, I am 65 and trying to hold on to whatever I've still got.

Thanks, but get your peepers checked!

[Rambone]

I’m consuming 400 grams of carbs a day minimum, but I’d imagine I can’t get away with that forever, and will probably resort to moderate carbs and fat and high protein in my older age. The goal would be to retain as much strength and lean muscle as possible. I just don’t think we can pin the obesity problem on a single macronutrient

[IroNat]

I’m consuming 400 grams of carbs a day minimum, but I’d imagine I can’t get away with that forever, and will probably resort to moderate carbs and fat and high protein in my older age. The goal would be to retain as much strength and lean muscle as possible. I just don’t think we can pin the obesity problem on a single macronutrient

It comes down to calories in/calories out.

Now, how do you keep fatties from over-eating?

1) Make them feel hungry all the time on a calorie restrictive diet.
2) Satiate their hunger on a low carb, high fat, moderate protein diet.
3) Give them Ozempic or amphetamines.
4) Fill in the blank

[Rambone]

It comes down to calories in/calories out.

Now, how do you keep fatties from over-eating?

1) Make them feel hungry all the time on a calorie restrictive diet.
2) Satiate their hunger on a low carb, high fat, moderate protein diet.
3) Give them Ozempic or amphetamines.
4) Fill in the blank

But they’re helpless food addicts, so I think we should just take them off welfare and let them die off. I’ll stack them outside the ol’ Italian church with you. I can list a ton of things, but if they have zero will power, they can go fuck themselves.

If I was fat with a sliver of will power, I’d fast until lunch, eat in a 6-8 hour window, weight train 2 times a week because I’m lazy, do some walking and consume a high protein, moderate fat, low carb diet with some fiber. I’d drink some metamucil during a meal if I had to. Only home cooked meals. Nothing lying around the house that’s tasty, calorie dense and easily accessible. Also, I wouldn’t grocery shop while hungry. Drink only water or seltzer drinks. Maybe a sugar free Tang every Friday night with the boys while watching “A Cut Above” starring Jason and Kerry Cutler

[Thin Lizzy]

Fatty meats, avocados, healthy oils, whole eggs, butter, nuts, cheese if no carbs, etc.

Do you eat the butter and drink the oil by themselves?

[Coach is Back!]

Too many carbs (basically sugars) in the diet messes with the hunger reflex because it causes excess insulin secretion by the pancreas.

These severe fluctuations of insulin cause big swings in blood glucose which activates the hunger reflex.

Excess glucose is readily stored as fat in the body.

"Chinese Food Syndrome".

The "Chinese Food Syndrome" is when you stuff yourself with Chinese food (loaded with carbs) to bursting and then you are hungry two hours later.

Fat people eat a high carb diet so they are hungry all the time. 

The recommended Western Diet is high carbs (60% carbs).

It's a cheap way to eat because carbs are cheap.  Protein is expensive.

Drop the carbs way, way down (50 grams or less per day).  Eat low carb, high fat, moderate protein.

Now, f*ck off.

This is precisely why most people aren't successful in the long run. My clientele consists of mostly the everyday person. I have over 100 clients and I can tell you that most people don't succeed for a couple of reasons. Unrealistic expectations, too restrictive of a "diet". If you set someone up on some thing that restrictive, again, it's a sure fail. Once you start to over complicate the process, it's over.

[oldtimer1]

The reason why you lose calories on low carbs is because you eat less calories. Get a calorie counting app like LOSE IT and see the fact of what I wrote. Granted if you have sugar issues you shouldn't eat a lot of carbs. So many have sugar issues because they are out of shape, high visceral/ subcutaneous fat  and have developed metabolic pre diabetic issues. For them eating a lot of carbs is a real problem. Many good healthy distance runners eat a high carb diet before a race. Another point is going on a real low carb diet you shed water too giving the illusion of losing weight.

I think the way to go is moderation. Extremes in protein or low carbs isn't healthy. Try the free LOSE IT app on your phone and start recording what you eat. I lost weight quickly using it. The best part of the app is it is very generous with the calories they give you for doing a cadio activity or lifting. Maybe too generous but it keeps the diet manageable.   

[Thin Lizzy]

This is precisely why most people aren't successful in the long run. My clientele consists of mostly the everyday person. I have over 100 clients and I can tell you that most people don't succeed for a couple of reasons. Unrealistic expectations, too restrictive of a "diet". If you set someone up on some thing that restrictive, again, it's a sure fail. Once you start to over complicate the process, it's over.

As you know, setting up, a diet is easy. The hard part is execution. A diet that low in carbs is gonna have a next to zero adherence rate. Sooner or later, the dieter will ask “Why am I doing this. I only live once.”

[falco]

When i competed i gained muscle while getting leaner on 250g Plus protein and never under 400gr of carbs. Fats were the least i could use. It worked with me. If i reduced carbs i got flat and catabolic.

[Thin Lizzy]

The reason why you lose calories on low carbs is because you eat less calories. Get a calorie counting app like LOSE IT and see the fact of what I wrote. Granted if you have sugar issues you shouldn't eat a lot of carbs. So many have sugar issues because they are out of shape, high visceral/ subcutaneous fat  and have developed metabolic pre diabetic issues. For them eating a lot of carbs is a real problem. Many good healthy distance runners eat a high carb diet before a race. Another point is going on a real low carb diet you shed water too giving the illusion of losing weight.

I think the way to go is moderation. Extremes in protein or low carbs isn't healthy. Try the free LOSE IT app on your phone and start recording what you eat. I lost weight quickly using it. The best part of the app is it is very generous with the calories they give you for doing a cadio activity or lifting. Maybe too generous but it keeps the diet manageable.

And you take out a lot of fat calories in the process. Almost all high calorie fun foods, Pizza, Ice Cream, Cake, Cookies, French Fries etc are high in both carbs and fat.

[dj181]

i'm able to maintain 6-8% on mickey d's and pizza slut easy-peasy no problems