The answer to: "Why am I fat?"

[loco]

Is there a sport in which having depleted glycogen stores is preferable to full ones?

There appears to be no difference in glycogen depletion/repletion between high carb (HC) and low carb (LC) athletes.  The human body can make more than enough glucose from glycerol (fat), lactate, and amino acids to replenish glycogen stores as needed.

Metabolic characteristics of keto-adapted ultra-endurance runners
Many successful ultra-endurance athletes have switched from a high-carbohydrate to a low-carbohydrate diet, but they have not previously been studied to determine the extent of metabolic adaptations.

Despite these marked differences in fuel use between LC and HC athletes, there were no significant differences in resting muscle glycogen and the level of depletion after 180 min of running (-64% from pre-exercise) and 120 min of recovery (-36% from pre-exercise).

Compared to highly trained ultra-endurance athletes consuming an HC diet, long-term keto-adaptation results in extraordinarily high rates of fat oxidation, whereas muscle glycogen utilization and repletion patterns during and after a 3 hour run are similar.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26892521/

[Schadenfreude]

Finally, the most complex unanswered question since the dawn of mankind has been answered.

[Thin Lizzy]

There appears to be no difference in glycogen depletion/repletion between high carb (HC) and low carb (LC) athletes.  The human body can make more than enough glucose from glycerol (fat), lactate, and amino acids to replenish glycogen stores as needed.

Metabolic characteristics of keto-adapted ultra-endurance runners
Many successful ultra-endurance athletes have switched from a high-carbohydrate to a low-carbohydrate diet, but they have not previously been studied to determine the extent of metabolic adaptations.

Despite these marked differences in fuel use between LC and HC athletes, there were no significant differences in resting muscle glycogen and the level of depletion after 180 min of running (-64% from pre-exercise) and 120 min of recovery (-36% from pre-exercise).

Compared to highly trained ultra-endurance athletes consuming an HC diet, long-term keto-adaptation results in extraordinarily high rates of fat oxidation, whereas muscle glycogen utilization and repletion patterns during and after a 3 hour run are similar.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26892521/

Marathons are run at about 80% VO2 max. 5Ks at about 95%. 64% is jogging. They know that. The study is a fraud.

“Methods: Twenty elite ultra-marathoners and ironman distance triathletes performed a maximal graded exercise test and a 180 min submaximal run at 64% VO2max on a treadmill to determine metabolic responses.”

[IroNat]

IroNat, does it greatly concern you that Pamith is in agreement with you? He lives among the roaches for Christ’s sake!

I find this most peculiar indeed.

Here I am trying to start arguments on Getbig and this happens.

[IroNat]

I think we need to put up pictures of the ones supporting their stance on diets. It will never work because the drug guys will say look at me when they know they look like absolute shit without the drug assist.

Insert pic of Bhanky below:

[ChristopherA]

Lol!!!! People are fat because they EAT LIKE PIGS!!!! Have you ever seen a fat person eat???

Exactly! I eat whatever I want. I'm actually looser on my diet more then ever in my life, at 46yrs old. I just finally trained myself after all these years to have portion control.  Ate Buffalo chicken pizza last night. In my 20's, I would have ate the whole pizza. I ate a couple last night and was good. 50 grams of carbs a day is ridiculous

[ChristopherA]

i'm able to maintain 6-8% on mickey d's and pizza slut easy-peasy no problems

Yeah you have a fast metabolism. You've been a tiny tit your whole life too.

[IroNat]

Exactly! I eat whatever I want. I'm actually looser on my diet more then ever in my life, at 46yrs old. I just finally trained myself after all these years to have portion control.  Ate Buffalo chicken pizza last night. In my 20's, I would have ate the whole pizza. I ate a couple last night and was good. 50 grams of carbs a day is ridiculous

You and Oprah.

[Thin Lizzy]

Exactly! I eat whatever I want. I'm actually looser on my diet more then ever in my life, at 46yrs old. I just finally trained myself after all these years to have portion control.  Ate Buffalo chicken pizza last night. In my 20's, I would have ate the whole pizza. I ate a couple last night and was good. 50 grams of carbs a day is ridiculous

The low carb cult wants you to believe there’s no difference between one slice and the whole pie.

[pamith]

Exactly! I eat whatever I want. I'm actually looser on my diet more then ever in my life, at 46yrs old. I just finally trained myself after all these years to have portion control.  Ate Buffalo chicken pizza last night. In my 20's, I would have ate the whole pizza. I ate a couple last night and was good. 50 grams of carbs a day is ridiculous

I'm also 46, if i didn't gaf about my looks and/or health i would probably pig out daily and be 300 lbs, easily, but i wanna look good

[joswift]

Yeah you have a fast metabolism. You've been a tiny tit your whole life too.

two people with the same lean body mass will only ever vary by a max of 600cals metabolism wise

[ChristopherA]

two people with the same lean body mass will only ever vary by a max of 600cals metabolism wise

The whole fast metabolism thing is a myth you're saying?

[joswift]

The whole fast metabolism thing is a myth you're saying?

yep

the higher your LBM the faster your metabolism is

Most people who are slim just dont eat enough, its that simple

[pamith]

yep

the higher your LBM the faster your metabolism is

Most people who are slim just dont eat enough, its that simple

Brutal if true

[pamith]

As you know, setting up, a diet is easy. The hard part is execution. A diet that low in carbs is gonna have a next to zero adherence rate. Sooner or later, the dieter will ask “Why am I doing this. I only live once.”

Bro...

[Thin Lizzy]

💪

[dj181]

these gear experts claim diet is the most important factor moreso than drugs or training, its idiotic

eat more cals you gain weight eat less cals you lose weight it's not rocket science ffs

[IroNat]

As you know, setting up, a diet is easy. The hard part is execution. A diet that low in carbs is gonna have a next to zero adherence rate. Sooner or later, the dieter will ask “Why am I doing this. I only live once.”

Exactly the opposite because you can eat as much fatty meat and eggs as you want until you are stuffed.

On a calorie restrictive, hign carb diet, you will constantly be battling hunger.  It is not sustainable as shown by real life failures of these diets.  Yo-yo dieting.

[IroNat]

Bro...

You tell 'em, Pa!

[MAXX]

As you know, setting up, a diet is easy. The hard part is execution. A diet that low in carbs is gonna have a next to zero adherence rate. Sooner or later, the dieter will ask “Why am I doing this. I only live once.”

but the hunger feeling will be pretty much the same regardless of macro ratio, in my personal experience. Ihave tried zero carbs, and I have tried the balanced macro ratio.. As long as in a deficit you will suffer.

Main problem for people is motivation. For a bodybuilder it's the competitive drive.

 Best motivator for me is simply quality pussy. I get more quality pussy at lower BF. But then I'm not roided. I look like a sprint distance olympic swimmer in the body(but with bigger arms). This may not be the same for all thou results may vary. If the face is unbearable for example.

[Thin Lizzy]

but the hunger feeling will be pretty much the same regardless of macro ratio, in my personal experience. Ihave tried zero carbs, and I have tried the balanced macro ratio.. As long as in a deficit you will suffer.

Main problem for people is motivation. For a bodybuilder it's the competitive drive.

 Best motivator for me is simply quality pussy. I get more quality pussy at lower BF. But then I'm not roided. I look like a sprint distance olympic swimmer in the body(but with bigger arms). This may not be the same for all thou results may vary. If the face is unbearable for example.

We all know what becomes of bodybuilders once the show is over, typically a binge. Maintaining body fat levels year around is a balancing act between having a solid routine and occasionally cutting loose.

[MAXX]

We all know what becomes of bodybuilders once the show is over, typically a binge. Maintaining body fat levels year around is a balancing act between having a solid routine and occasionally cutting loose.

A typical bodybuilders diet is usually just in line with his haviest drug cycle. Then he slacks off. All drugs.... But that is the sport it's probably the best way to do it, for their goals and health,, so who can blame them....

[Thin Lizzy]

The reason why keto fails in high intensity activities is the same reason that fat is insufficient. It takes longer to break down both in digestion and to produce ATP.

Fat is the preferred fuel source for low to moderate intensity activities; carbohydrates, for high intensity.

Another way of putting it is that Fat produces more energy per unit of weight, carbs, per unit of time.

Don’t blame me Keto Warriors. Blame God.

[Coach is Back!]

Most of you are over complicating it for the average person.

[Thin Lizzy]

Most of you are over complicating it for the average person.

In that case: Just don’t eat too much😁