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The reason that Dorian had better shoulders than Arnold
« on: December 23, 2023, 05:05:51 AM »
Dorian trained heavier

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Re: The reason that Dorian had better shoulders than Arnold
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2023, 05:16:37 AM »
That picture of Dorian looking amazing pre contest loses to the contest picture of Arnold. Yes, Arnold trained with volume and Yates with one set to failure after non taxing warm up sets. If you train with volume you are forced to use lighter weights.

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Re: The reason that Dorian had better shoulders than Arnold
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2023, 05:33:00 AM »
Dorian outweighed Arnold by 50lbs while being 3+ inches shorter.

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Re: The reason that Dorian had better shoulders than Arnold
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2023, 06:50:30 AM »
bigger shoulders are due to more use of androgens ie. test and tren than were used in the 70-80's

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Re: The reason that Dorian had better shoulders than Arnold
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2023, 06:51:04 AM »
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Re: The reason that Dorian had better shoulders than Arnold
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2023, 06:52:35 AM »
bigger shoulders are due to more use of androgens ie. test and tren than were used in the 70-80's


Arnold took enough D-ball to kill a horse

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Re: The reason that Dorian had better shoulders than Arnold
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2023, 06:55:28 AM »

Arnold took enough D-ball to kill a horse

dbol is a weak androgen and it's a class 2 doesn't bind to the androgen receptor like test and tren do

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Re: The reason that Dorian had better shoulders than Arnold
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2023, 07:02:46 AM »
dbol is a weak androgen and it's a class 2 doesn't bind to the androgen receptor like test and tren do

Arnold just didn’t have great shoulder genetics...  and he trained his shoulders too lightly.

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Re: The reason that Dorian had better shoulders than Arnold
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2023, 08:02:30 AM »
dorian wins cause he never sucked off Joe Weider

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Re: The reason that Dorian had better shoulders than Arnold
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2023, 08:06:16 AM »
That picture of Dorian looking amazing pre contest loses to the contest picture of Arnold. Yes, Arnold trained with volume and Yates with one set to failure after non taxing warm up sets. If you train with volume you are forced to use lighter weights.

Yes- insulin, hgh, igf etc. had nothing to do with it, lol

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Re: The reason that Dorian had better shoulders than Arnold
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2023, 09:45:38 AM »
bigger shoulders are due to more use of androgens ie. test and tren than were used in the 70-80's

Exactly.

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Re: The reason that Dorian had better shoulders than Arnold
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2023, 09:47:13 AM »
That picture of Dorian looking amazing pre contest loses to the contest picture of Arnold. Yes, Arnold trained with volume and Yates with volume also after near taxing warm up sets. If you train with volume you use moderate to heavy weights.

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Re: The reason that Dorian had better shoulders than Arnold
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2023, 09:48:12 AM »
Yes- insulin, hgh, igf etc. had nothing to do with it, lol

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Re: The reason that Dorian had better shoulders than Arnold
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2023, 11:30:15 AM »
Dorian trained heavier
Dorian trained heavier on the syringe.

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Re: The reason that Dorian had better shoulders than Arnold
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2023, 11:34:53 AM »
Dorian trained heavier on the syringe.

Arnold was pounding D-Ball and he was shoulder pressing 50-60lb dumbbells.


It’ was simply too light. Especially for a guy who could bench over 400lbs

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Re: The reason that Dorian had better shoulders than Arnold
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2023, 01:45:42 PM »
Arnold was pounding D-Ball and he was shoulder pressing 50-60lb dumbbells.


It’ was simply too light. Especially for a guy who could bench over 400lbs


I think he's doing some variation of a lateral raise, not a shoulder press.

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Re: The reason that Dorian had better shoulders than Arnold
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2023, 02:47:36 PM »
I`d much rather  look like  a prime Arnold.

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Re: The reason that Dorian had better shoulders than Arnold
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2023, 03:06:21 PM »
Tbh Dorian had massive delts and lats but he never had the chest of Arnold, Arnold beat him in the chest department

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Re: The reason that Dorian had better shoulders than Arnold
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2023, 03:12:22 PM »
I`d much rather  look like  a prime Arnold.

Agreed brother!  I'd sooner look like prime Arnold, Reeves, Draper or Zane than Dorian or Ronnie or Haney.   It's not that Yates or the other two gentlemen are not great it's just that I have never had any desire to look like them.  But the others?  They are the ones I trained to emulate.  I pretty much failed but that doesn't matter.  ;D

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Re: The reason that Dorian had better shoulders than Arnold
« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2023, 03:16:30 PM »
Tbh Dorian had massive delts and lats but he never had the chest of Arnold, Arnold beat him in the chest department

or arms

the typical bb of nowadays, big back, legs, delts and bellies and crap arms and pecs

thier arms without the site enhancements they use would be even worse

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Re: The reason that Dorian had better shoulders than Arnold
« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2023, 03:28:47 PM »
Agreed brother!  I'd sooner look like prime Arnold, Reeves, Draper or Zane than Dorian or Ronnie or Haney.   It's not that Yates or the other two gentlemen are not great it's just that I have never had any desire to look like them.  But the others?  They are the ones I trained to emulate.  I pretty much failed but that doesn't matter.  ;D
Those guys  were popular when we were starting out so we gravitate towards them......plus they just plain old looked fucking better.........PERIOD!!   LOL  :D 

Happy Holidays to you and yours my good friend.  ;)

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Re: The reason that Dorian had better shoulders than Arnold
« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2023, 03:30:25 PM »
Todays guys delts  are bigger than their pecs...........symmetry and proportion......NOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!111

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Re: The reason that Dorian had better shoulders than Arnold
« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2023, 03:32:53 PM »
Todays guys delts  are bigger than their pecs...........symmetry and proportion......NOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!111

delts and arms should be the same size imho

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Re: The reason that Dorian had better shoulders than Arnold
« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2023, 03:49:01 PM »
or arms

the typical bb of nowadays, big back, legs, delts and bellies and crap arms and pecs

thier arms without the site enhancements they use would be even worse

Do modern BBs pin their pecs with oil too?

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Re: The reason that Dorian had better shoulders than Arnold
« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2023, 03:54:43 PM »
(Pre-injury) Dorian’s arms, delts, and pecs were pretty well balanced in my opinion.