The reason that Dorian had better shoulders than Arnold

[Thin Lizzy]

Yo, take another look.

His upper arm is practically the same size as his wrist.  He could wear his wristwatch around his biceps.  I'll be damned if that's even 14".  10-11" at most, and I'm being dead serious.  (i.e., it's smaller in circumference than the average American high school librarian's arm.)

Coming off mega dosing he would’ve deflated regardless but the empirical evidence has shown that the “Pumper” style of lifting, ages better than the one set to failure style.

[dj181]

Coming off mega dosing he would’ve deflated regardless but the empirical evidence has shown that the “Pumper” style of lifting, ages better than the one set to failure style.

Let's see this evidence

[Rmj11]

Let's see this evidence

Easy. Viator, got fat, died at 62.

Arthur Jones. Aged badly. Shrivelled up look to his physique for the majority of his adult years.

methzer bros. Both had health problems in their 40's that was permanent. Both had stopped training, got fat, looked older than they were. Both died in their late 40's.

Yates isn't even half the size he once was. Arms are like spaghetti twigs.

Compare the volume guys like Vince Taylor who was still in great shape and competing in his 50's while the hit guys had injured themselves and or burn themselves out with hit.

Lou Ferrigno, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Bill Pearl, Serge Nubret, Dave Draper, etc were/are still training into their laters years while the hit guys had stopped completely. All that going to failure guff tires out the cns quicker and causes early burnout and injuries. Hit sucks.

[Humble Narcissist]

Easy. Viator, got fat, died at 62.

Arthur Jones. Aged badly. Shrivelled up look to his physique for the majority of his adult years.

methzer bros. Both had health problems in their 40's that was permanent. Both had stopped training, got fat, looked older than they were. Both died in their late 40's.

Yates isn't even half the size he once was. Arms are like spaghetti twigs.

Compare the volume guys like Vince Taylor who was stil, in great shape and competing in his 50's while the hit guys had injured themselves and or burn themselves out with hit.

Lou Ferrigno, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Bill Pearl, Serge Nubret, Dave Draper, etc were/are still training into theor laters years while the hit guys had stopped completely. All that going to failure guff tires out the cns quicker and causes early burnout and injuries. Hit sucks.

Yep. CNS and mental burnout are the end result. Even if it was the superior way to train physiologically (which it isn't) it would still be inferior because of the dropout rate from mental burnout and injury. You can't make any gains if you are on the shelf.

[Royalty]

Yep. CNS and mental burnout are the end result. Even if it was the superior way to train physiologically (which it isn't) it would still be inferior because of the dropout rate from mental burnout and injury. You can't make any gains if you are on the shelf.

Talking to your own gimmick account again?

[dj181]

Easy. Viator, got fat, died at 62.

Arthur Jones. Aged badly. Shrivelled up look to his physique for the majority of his adult years.

methzer bros. Both had health problems in their 40's that was permanent. Both had stopped training, got fat, looked older than they were. Both died in their late 40's.

Yates isn't even half the size he once was. Arms are like spaghetti twigs.

Compare the volume guys like Vince Taylor who was stil, in great shape and competing in his 50's while the hit guys had injured themselves and or burn themselves out with hit.

Lou Ferrigno, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Bill Pearl, Serge Nubret, Dave Draper, etc were/are still training into theor laters years while the hit guys had stopped completely. All that going to failure guff tires out the cns quicker and causes early burnout and injuries. Hit sucks.

here's the thing...

they ALL  built thier size lifting heavier and heavier loads and that's a fucking fact

NO ONE will have big arms close-grip benching 90 fucking pounds for 20 sets of 10 reps NOT FUCKING ONE

[beakdoctor]

here's the thing...

they ALL  built thier size lifting heavier and heavier loads and that's a fucking fact

NO ONE will have big arms close-grip benching 90 fucking pounds for 20 sets of 10 reps NOT FUCKING ONE

Nubret was a high rep guy. Fuller 30 reps of 30 sets or whatever... There have been others.

[illuminati]

here's the thing...

they ALL  built thier size lifting heavier and heavier loads and that's a fucking fact

NO ONE will have big arms close-grip benching 90 fucking pounds for 20 sets of 10 reps NOT FUCKING ONE

Paul Dillett - Vince Taylor 

[beakdoctor]

Yep. CNS and mental burnout are the end result. Even if it was the superior way to train physiologically (which it isn't) it would still be inferior because of the dropout rate from mental burnout and injury. You can't make any gains if you are on the shelf.

There does seem to be some truth to this. I mean, I dont know what it means to "fry your CNS" sounds a little like bro science but annecdotally the HIT guys seem to struggle with mental health.

Even Dorian, who seems pretty well adjusted, underwent a complete personality change.

[pamith]

or arms

the typical bb of nowadays, big back, legs, delts and bellies and crap arms and pecs

thier arms without the site enhancements they use would be even worse

Tbh Arnold was genetically gifted, not everyone has the genetics of Arnold

[Thin Lizzy]

here's the thing...

they ALL  built thier size lifting heavier and heavier loads and that's a fucking fact

NO ONE will have big arms close-grip benching 90 fucking pounds for 20 sets of 10 reps NOT FUCKING ONE

Who says you need to do 20 sets? A couple of warm up sets and 3 sets in the 10-15 range.

Bill Grant had among the best arms back in the day. He’s still lifting with the pumping style.

[dj181]

Nubret was a high rep guy. Fuller 30 reps of 30 sets or whatever... There have been others.

you do realize nubret benched 400 right?

again HEAVY WEIGHT was lifted at one point in his career that's the whole fuckin point

Paul Dillett - Vince Taylor 

so they never ever benched over 300 for reps right? 

Who says you need to do 20 sets? A couple of warm up sets and 3 sets in the 10-15 range.

Bill Grant had among the best arms back in the day. He’s still lifting with the pumping style.

so he never ever close-griped benched more than 90 for for 10? hahahaha

here's the point..... THEY ALL LIFTER HEAVY AT ONE TIME hence that's where the got thier size, got gaylor get bigger lifting less weight??? hahahaha NO!!!! he just get the size he put on from the heavier weights

how do you make a muscle bigger? get weaker HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[illuminati]

you do realize nubret benched 400 right?

again HEAVY WEIGHT was lifted at one point in his career that's the whole fuckin point

so they never ever benched over 300 for reps right? 

so he never ever close-griped benched more than 90 for for 10? hahahaha

here's the point..... THEY ALL LIFTER HEAVY AT ONE TIME hence that's where the got thier size, got gaylor get bigger lifting less weight??? hahahaha NO!!!! he just get the size he put on from the heavier weights

how do you make a muscle bigger? get weaker HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"so they never ever benched over 300 for reps right?  "


Go ask them 
They were not know for lifting heavy

Also Heavy is a relative term - as what is heavy for one
isn't for someone else.


Are your training weights heavy ? How much you lift ?

[dj181]

"so they never ever benched over 300 for reps right?  "


Go ask them 
They were not know for lifting heavy

Also Heavy is a relative term - as what is heavy for one
isn't for someone else.


Are your training weights heavy ? How much you lift ?

heavy for me and the more weight i lift the bigger my muscles get

it's impossible to use the same training loads and gain size, if you slow down reps with more tension over the rep you still need to increase loads over time to gain size

[illuminati]

heavy for me and the more weight i lift the bigger my muscles get

it's impossible to use the same training loads and gain size, if you slow down reps with more tension over the rep you still need to increase loads over time to gain size

Good for you .

As a former national level powerlifting champion
When I swapped over to bodybuilding - I used less poundages
& Got far bigger.

Clearly not everyone is the same.
To some extent weight/ poundages are important in gaining muscle size
Though it isn't the only variable.

[IroNat]

How did Jesus train?  HIT or Volume?

He looked good.

[AbrahamG]

How did Jesus train?  HIT or Volume?

He looked good.

He was more of a cross-fitter/cardio guy.

[Humble Narcissist]

How did Jesus train?  HIT or Volume?

He looked good.

Pure genetics. Just work as a carpenter built that physique with no gym workouts required.

[GymnJuice]

He was more of a cross-fitter/cardio guy.

He repped for our gains.

[affeman]

Dorian trained heavier

The reason that Markus had better shoulders than Dorian:

Markus trained heavier

[Rmj11]

The reason that Markus had better shoulders than Dorian:

Markus trained heavier and with more VOLUME!

😉

[_bruce_]

dorian wins cause he never sucked off Joe Weider

[Royalty]

The reason that Markus had better shoulders than Dorian:

Markus trained heavier

I have no doubt that Ruhl trained super heavy and that he had great shoulders... but he did have some synthol in there too.

[Rmj11]

dorian wins cause he sucked off Joe Weider

😉

[Kwon]

I'd rather look like a Post-Wes than Dorian or Arnold